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Post by Mr. Robot on Jun 30, 2019 1:35:03 GMT -5
I haven't been reading this thread for a few months trying to let the dust settle and give Emotiva time work. Cleaning up DTS dropouts with v1.3 was a huge step forward and I've been enjoying many titles I couldn't before. However, there are still a number of issues with my system that are frustrating, the most annoying being the HDMI sync with Nvidia Shield. I have to start my Oppo 1st and establish sync then switch inputs back and forth between the Shield and Oppo multiple times before the Shield finally syncs. Does anyone else with a Shield struggle to establish sync? My Oppo works flawlessly.
Less frustrating, but still painful is that I continue to get audio drops with PCM2.0 and DD5.1 sources when streamed through the Shield or ATV. I opened a case and went through several gyrations, but was ultimately told Emotiva could not recreate the drops. Hoping for some improvements in v1.4
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Post by goozoo on Jun 30, 2019 2:08:15 GMT -5
I haven't been reading this thread for a few months trying to let the dust settle and give Emotiva time work. Cleaning up DTS dropouts with v1.3 was a huge step forward and I've been enjoying many titles I couldn't before. However, there are still a number of issues with my system that are frustrating, the most annoying being the HDMI sync with Nvidia Shield. I have to start my Oppo 1st and establish sync then switch inputs back and forth between the Shield and Oppo multiple times before the Shield finally syncs. Does anyone else with a Shield struggle to establish sync? My Oppo works flawlessly. Less frustrating, but still painful is that I continue to get audio drops with PCM2.0 and DD5.1 sources when streamed through the Shield or ATV. I opened a case and went through several gyrations, but was ultimately told Emotiva could not recreate the drops. Hoping for some improvements in v1.4 Yes, the problem with the Shield and the Oppo being in the same chain is they both are shouting at the RMC1 for attention which causes sync issues at startup. You can circumvent this by determining the correct order manually and adding a delay on startup to said device if using a universal remote. Unfortunately to date Emotiva has been unable to duplicate any audio dropouts that owners who post here are having, as apparently we are the only people who post while there rest sit silently enjoying their product working flawlessly. This then puts the number at something like 6 people out of all their sales. Welcome to the elite club. |
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Post by hsamwel on Jun 30, 2019 4:25:23 GMT -5
IR Blasrer is turned off. I always go through settings of any new unit I get before starting using it. Just to try learn how it works and what you can do and not do. I have not tested new batteries. Sounds really crazy that batteries would have those effects you had. This I could try. But IMO a bit far fetched. I still think it’s either too narrow receiver in the RMC or a software problem. Emotiva XSP-1 standing on the exact same place had no problem with its remote. I while back a CD player standing in the very same place also had no problem. Looks like you've got the IR settings to be the best for your situation. All of the frustrating aiming issues I had were solved by wired connection of a IR repeater which I use for all of my components except a couple which need to have the stick-on emitter. I think I paid about $28 for the repeater by BAFX. I'd like to ask for a clarification though, is your issue that you press a button on the remote and there is a delay until a response is noticed? If so, how long of a delay? The reason I ask is due to a problem which can occur where a command is initiated and it can take from several seconds to over 30 seconds to respond. Also, this has an additional feature where the pre "remembers" each button press and will execute each one eventually. I call this "Slow Mode" and the pre needs a hard boot. Now I'm talking about the XMC-1, but there are issues common to both models and this could be another one and it's a firmware issue that popped up a few months ago. If not a delay, and it's just that RMC-1 doesn't respond to every button press then it's one or more of the common issues a lot of us have encountered, like the IR having a narrow "window" of operation. Please understand that slightly weak batteries do in fact play a role in this behavior very often. Also, if you open the remote and look at the batteries you will often see that they are not perfectly in place and need a nudge to situate them back into their proper alignment so they make better contact and then will work better. I've purchased new batteries which haven't lasted very long, and others that last more than a year. The batteries shipped from Emotiva didn't last long at all, only a couple months, but I figured it was because of using the remote so much for setup during that time. If I press a button and I don't get a response maybe once or maybe even twice one day and doesn't happen again the next day, then maybe I didn't press hard enough. But if I have to press several times just to get one response, every time this has happened has been due to weak batteries (but only after I got the repeater, otherwise it was sometimes due to the narrow window), this is the Low Battery Signal for me. Yes, a friend of mine recommended setting up an external IR receiver as sometimes the built in can be very sensitive from where you direct it. Sometimes I get a small delay. But it’s usually less than a second. The problem is, more of an annoyance really, that sometimes when I press a button nothing happens. I have even tried to wait 5-6 seconds to see if it’s a delay but nothing happens. I press again and RMC most often react directly. Too me it feels like either a software problem or a narrow receiver in RMC. I will certainly try to change batteries. It could be, although if it is RMC reacts VERY differently than any other device I have ever had with a low battery remote. If new batteries doesn’t work I will try an external IR receiver. I will also try to program my Harmony to RMC and see if it behaves the same. |
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Post by hsamwel on Jun 30, 2019 4:46:24 GMT -5
Emotiva: Please a couple of things I’d like for the next firmware.
1 Can I somehow see which speakers are active during playback? Full status does not. Perfect otherwise.
I know atmos/dts:x always should playback to all speakers. But for example dts:x does not use all speakers above 7.1.4.
It would be nice to somehow be able to see it.
2. Add configurable info screen time. Now it shows for a couple of seconds and I have to press again if I want to see it more.
Add time to view and always stay until info is pressed again please.
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Post by hsamwel on Jun 30, 2019 5:10:01 GMT -5
I haven't been reading this thread for a few months trying to let the dust settle and give Emotiva time work. Cleaning up DTS dropouts with v1.3 was a huge step forward and I've been enjoying many titles I couldn't before. However, there are still a number of issues with my system that are frustrating, the most annoying being the HDMI sync with Nvidia Shield. I have to start my Oppo 1st and establish sync then switch inputs back and forth between the Shield and Oppo multiple times before the Shield finally syncs. Does anyone else with a Shield struggle to establish sync? My Oppo works flawlessly. Less frustrating, but still painful is that I continue to get audio drops with PCM2.0 and DD5.1 sources when streamed through the Shield or ATV. I opened a case and went through several gyrations, but was ultimately told Emotiva could not recreate the drops. Hoping for some improvements in v1.4 Yes, the problem with the Shield and the Oppo being in the same chain is they both are shouting at the RMC1 for attention which causes sync issues at startup. You can circumvent this by determining the correct order manually and adding a delay on startup to said device if using a universal remote. Unfortunately to date Emotiva has been unable to duplicate any audio dropouts that owners who post here are having, as apparently we are the only people who post while there rest sit silently enjoying their product working flawlessly. This then puts the number at something like 6 people out of all their sales. Welcome to the elite club. I was a little afraid of these audio dropouts before I bought my RMC. After having a lengthy demo at my seller with no problems. Although only with a single bluray connected to it. I can say with owning it for a less than a week I have not had any audio dropouts. But I have noticed alot of bugs and lagging in the system. Mostly in menus and lagging with the remote. Input cycling is especially bad with all the Please waits for several seconds each. But learning to program input buttons helped this problem ALOT. I have tried AppleTV 4k 32GB, Oppo UDP-103eu and my swedish sattelite dish receiver (Canal Digital) which all seem to work fine. Although I don’t know if it was a signal or RMC problem yesterday. For a second I got a little scrambled picture with a sound screech. After this everything was fine again for almost an hour before shuting down everything. Ihave tried to stream with AppleTV both 4k and 1080p material. All have streamed fine for now.. |
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Post by goozoo on Jun 30, 2019 8:39:38 GMT -5
hsamwel that’s excellent! Count yourself lucky.
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Post by Mr. Robot on Jun 30, 2019 8:51:38 GMT -5
I haven't been reading this thread for a few months trying to let the dust settle and give Emotiva time work. Cleaning up DTS dropouts with v1.3 was a huge step forward and I've been enjoying many titles I couldn't before. However, there are still a number of issues with my system that are frustrating, the most annoying being the HDMI sync with Nvidia Shield. I have to start my Oppo 1st and establish sync then switch inputs back and forth between the Shield and Oppo multiple times before the Shield finally syncs. Does anyone else with a Shield struggle to establish sync? My Oppo works flawlessly. Less frustrating, but still painful is that I continue to get audio drops with PCM2.0 and DD5.1 sources when streamed through the Shield or ATV. I opened a case and went through several gyrations, but was ultimately told Emotiva could not recreate the drops. Hoping for some improvements in v1.4 Yes, the problem with the Shield and the Oppo being in the same chain is they both are shouting at the RMC1 for attention which causes sync issues at startup. You can circumvent this by determining the correct order manually and adding a delay on startup to said device if using a universal remote. Unfortunately to date Emotiva has been unable to duplicate any audio dropouts that owners who post here are having, as apparently we are the only people who post while there rest sit silently enjoying their product working flawlessly. This then puts the number at something like 6 people out of all their sales. Welcome to the elite club. My system is controlled completely from an iRule remote so startup sequences and delays are easy. I have experimented quite a bit with those variables, but just as they relate to Shield. Are you suggesting that the Oppo will scream for attention even if it’s in a powered off state? My typical scenario is to walk in the room all equipment off and want to watch the Shield. Executing only the Shield startup still does not sync. I’m going to disconnect all other equipment and see if it changes anything. |
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Post by simpleman68 on Jun 30, 2019 9:57:56 GMT -5
Anytime Bill, you and Lisa know how to find us. We always have good steak, extra guest rooms and a few varieties of single malt scotch on hand.  Scott
So you HAVE said you are not experiencing any issues with your RMC-1 (a rarity), but unless I've missed it, you haven't actually posted your review. You have a couple pretty awesome set ups at your place, so why no input here other than "I have no issues?" Just wondering. Again, perhaps I've missed it. Would also like to know your opinion between the Anthem and Emotiva. Correct on all counts except I have had issues with the loud squawk at 12 minute intervals. The only issue I've noticed other than that is once in a while it will struggle with certain lossless audio formats and resort to a 2 channel mode.
I have been holding off on reviews until Dirac comes as it is pointless to review something that is not fully functional, particularly while missing such an integral part of its functionality.
Just with preliminary settings; distance, level match etc. the sound quality is absolutely outstanding and outperforms my previous Anthem AVM60 AND current Marantz 8805 (both uncorrected of course)
The 8805 corrected is heavenly, the user interface is flawless and Audyssey XT32 is damn impressive.
Frustrating that Dirac isn't up and running because the sound quality on the RMC is the best I've ever heard in my rig (again comparing uncorrected units) and I've run through all the usual pre/pros.
Charts before and after with the Marantz are extremely impressive. Of course I should also give huge props to JTR for making a speaker with such flat response. My theater has absorption on the sidewalls only and low ceilings. It is a challenging room with a lot of suck out around the 100 hZ mark. Its strong suit being the size. ( 19' X 36') Scott
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Post by simpleman68 on Jun 30, 2019 10:05:58 GMT -5
Scott is way too busy getting his house ready for me and the family moving in to bother with a review! 😂😂 Steak and Scotch Bourbon is a heavenly drink. Scotch is like licking burnt wood ashes out of an old ash tray. Nasty. Being serious this time. My Mom LOVES Scotch. My wife and I HATE HATE HATE it. But we LOVE LOVE LOVE bourbon. Again, a matter of taste. Personal preference is everything but it sounds like you haven't had much in the way of variety of whiskeys. Sounds like you had a bad experience with an Islay scotch which is peaty/smokey by design.
There are many different flavor profiles you might consider trying down the road. There are some aged in sherry casks that give it a very warm, toffee-like flavor. Highland scotch will typically not exhibit the smokey notes you don't care for.
If you get a chance try out: Glenmorangie 18 yr Balvenie Doublewood 12 yr Macallan is pretty good but over-hyped and over priced Oban Ardmore
Lots more out there to try and some that get closer in flavor to bourbon that you may enjoy. Tastings are an affordable way to try a variety to see if you find anything that works for you. I'm part of a scotch club that does regular tastings and I've been surprised at the variety of whiskey available. Scott
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Post by klinemj on Jun 30, 2019 10:30:32 GMT -5
Bourbon is a heavenly drink. Scotch is like licking burnt wood ashes out of an old ash tray. Nasty. Being serious this time. My Mom LOVES Scotch. My wife and I HATE HATE HATE it. But we LOVE LOVE LOVE bourbon. Again, a matter of taste. Personal preference is everything but it sounds like you haven't had much in the way of variety of whiskeys. Sounds like you had a bad experience with an Islay scotch which is peaty/smokey by design. There are many different flavor profiles you might consider trying down the road. There are some aged in sherry casks that give it a very warm, toffee-like flavor. Highland scotch will typically not exhibit the smokey notes you don't care for. If you get a chance try out: Glenmorangie 18 yr Balvenie Doublewood 12 yr Macallan is pretty good but over-hyped and over priced Oban Ardmore Lots more out there to try and some that get closer in flavor to bourbon that you may enjoy. Tastings are an affordable way to try a variety to see if you find anything that works for you. I'm part of a scotch club that does regular tastings and I've been surprised at the variety of whiskey available. Scott
Agree...many whiskey/scotch types are a far cry from others. And, might I add to the list Glenmorangie Signet. Deeeeeeeelightful... Mark |
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Post by Bonzo on Jun 30, 2019 11:46:59 GMT -5
Bourbon is a heavenly drink. Scotch is like licking burnt wood ashes out of an old ash tray. Nasty. Being serious this time. My Mom LOVES Scotch. My wife and I HATE HATE HATE it. But we LOVE LOVE LOVE bourbon. Again, a matter of taste. Personal preference is everything but it sounds like you haven't had much in the way of variety of whiskeys. Sounds like you had a bad experience with an Islay scotch which is peaty/smokey by design. There are many different flavor profiles you might consider trying down the road. There are some aged in sherry casks that give it a very warm, toffee-like flavor. Highland scotch will typically not exhibit the smokey notes you don't care for. If you get a chance try out: Glenmorangie 18 yr Balvenie Doublewood 12 yr Macallan is pretty good but over-hyped and over priced Oban Ardmore Lots more out there to try and some that get closer in flavor to bourbon that you may enjoy. Tastings are an affordable way to try a variety to see if you find anything that works for you. I'm part of a scotch club that does regular tastings and I've been surprised at the variety of whiskey available. Scott
I have a $60 bottle of Glennlevit (sp) under my bar I bought for a friend one time. I tried it and thought it was nasty. Its still sitting under the bar because no one drinks it. I went to a tasting with my Mom years ago and didn't care much for them either. But it was only one tasting. It was better than a port wine tasting I went to. Blech. Horrible crap those ports. Even amongst bourbons there are plenty of different things. Some are great, some not so much. And some are good for mixing, and others better for sipping. I liken scotch a bit like tea for me. I literally HATE tea. My body literally rejects it. Makes me wanna puke. My Mom tried and tried and tried to get me to drink it as a kid. I've probably tried 100 different kinds. Can't stand any of them. Its funny because when it comes to food, there are only about 5 things I really don't like. I'll eat most everything else. Anyway, back on topic. So the 8805 is no slouch sound wise, works fantastic, and has a lot of creature comfort features. The RMC-1 sounds better, but has glitches and operates slow. If they can fix that, and implement dirac well, it will be great. But until then..... |
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Post by hsamwel on Jun 30, 2019 12:27:00 GMT -5
Changed batteries in the remote. No change, still misses commands sometimes.
And same if I move close to RMC every button press seems to work fine. Could be direction, but seems unlikely because I’m sitting
right infront of RMCand pointing the remote forward. Maybe missing the unit by some degrees. It shouldn’t be that sensitive IMO.
Also I think I had my first audio dropout.
While playing Eric Clapton - Slowhand at 70 bluray with DTS MA 5.1 in direct mode with Oppo 103 using bitstream. In the end of the concert
I noticed a small stop in audio about 1hr and 30 min into it.
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Post by bblv on Jun 30, 2019 12:32:50 GMT -5
Anyone having better luck with IP control? I have my Control4 installer coming to program the RMC into my system after the 4th holiday week, hoping to get some feedback so I don't waste his time (and my $) with some buggy IP control situation that is half-baked....
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 30, 2019 12:58:03 GMT -5
Anyone having better luck with IP control? I have my Control4 installer coming to program the RMC into my system after the 4th holiday week, hoping to get some feedback so I don't waste his time (and my $) with some buggy IP control situation that is half-baked.... Have you tried the XMC-1 App? I expect how it works with the App will tell you how it will work with the Control4. I also think this is an area where they re-used code from the XMC-1; like the other re-used code they referred to in the podcast, this may be affecting the IP control performance (speculation). Further I think there are features and capabilities in the RMC-1 which can’t be accessed (yet) via either IR or IP because there’s no interface to them (more speculation). For instance, is there any way to adjust overhead speaker trim on the fly, via any type of remote (IR, IP, Harmony/Universal)? Can you directly select any of the new audio modes? Whether they expose those features (and I have to believe there are several) is yet to be seen, but I wouldn’t expect it to be soon. So, if the App works well enough I’d go for Control4 programming, though there could be some point in the future you’d have to revisit it (this would be good news because it would mean they worked on the interface). Given no evidence to the contrary I think Robert Lesniak wrote both the remote interface, and the XMC-1 App, they might need to re-enlisted his services to expand these capabilities (a lot of speculation). |
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Post by twism on Jun 30, 2019 20:10:51 GMT -5
Anyone having better luck with IP control? I have my Control4 installer coming to program the RMC into my system after the 4th holiday week, hoping to get some feedback so I don't waste his time (and my $) with some buggy IP control situation that is half-baked.... I use simple control over IP and have had zero issues. It works well. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 30, 2019 20:25:02 GMT -5
Anyone having better luck with IP control? I have my Control4 installer coming to program the RMC into my system after the 4th holiday week, hoping to get some feedback so I don't waste his time (and my $) with some buggy IP control situation that is half-baked.... I use simple control over IP and have had zero issues. It works well. What are you using to send the commands? |
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Post by twism on Jun 30, 2019 20:26:24 GMT -5
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Post by deewan on Jul 1, 2019 7:49:27 GMT -5
Could be direction, but seems unlikely because I’m sitting
right infront of RMC and pointing the remote forward. Maybe missing the unit by some degrees. It shouldn’t be that sensitive IMO. Are you saying you are sitting in front of the RMC but pointing the RMC forward.... as in the RMC is to the right or left side of you when you're facing the screen and you're pointing the remote forward (toward the screen) when sending commands? |
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Post by hsamwel on Jul 1, 2019 10:43:50 GMT -5
Could be direction, but seems unlikely because I’m sitting
right infront of RMC and pointing the remote forward. Maybe missing the unit by some degrees. It shouldn’t be that sensitive IMO. Are you saying you are sitting in front of the RMC but pointing the RMC forward.... as in the RMC is to the right or left side of you when you're facing the screen and you're pointing the remote forward (foward the screen) when sending commands? The RMC is sitting on a shelf under my TV and Center speaker slightly to the left. I’m sitting 10 feet away infront of them pointing the remote at RMC. The media console is 120cm wide with 2 shelfs on either side which are about 55cm wide. The RMC can’t be many degrees from exactly centered from my seating position. |
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Post by SOWK on Jul 1, 2019 11:02:28 GMT -5
Any updates on Firmware 1.4 or Dirac Live 2.0 Emotiva?
A weekly update or even better a daily update would be appreciated.
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