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Post by TDifEQ on Apr 13, 2020 10:27:01 GMT -5
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Post by steelman1991 on Apr 13, 2020 11:00:21 GMT -5
Glad you've got a working set-up, but the "Audioquest" cables aren't "Premium Certified" - AFAIK none of their cables are. They may claim to be 18Gbs compatible and work, but they aren't "Certified". Just pointing out in case others might be looking in. I only reply to point out that there is no specific cable, or combination required to get the RMC-1, or XMC-2 in your case, to play nice, as you and shellcode1 have shown. Having a poke around the Samsung Q series threads over at AVS forum, they do seem to have their fair share of issues. Me, I have all "Premium Certified" cables and have "no issues". I would suggest that having "tested" cables would at least give users a better chance of a working set-up than having cables which don't. Anyway each to their own and if it works with existing cables, then you've won a watch. It looks like the Audioquest cables are not officially certified as you said, however this is the quote from their website: "All AudioQuest 18Gbps High Speed HDMI are guaranteed to have the 18Gbps bandwidth required for compelling features like 8K/30, HDR (High Dynamic Range) and eARC (enhanced Audio Return Channel)." My assumption would be that if you buy them and they don't work, you can return. They would probably do themselves some good to have them independently tested. Getting back to my HDMI cables....my previous generation of cables from Monoprice that were not certified for 4K worked fine with my Samsung TV with 1080p or 4K. I only upgraded them with my XMC-1 when I had it for future-proofing and because they were inexpensive. Agree with you on the better chance of things working out with "tested" cables. I am however still concerned about Samsung's Q TV sets in light of issues also seen on AVS forum. Yes - exactly the point I was making. They can claim all they like. Some cables were/are made that will happily pass the needed speed, but it’s hit and miss.
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Post by steelman1991 on Apr 13, 2020 11:02:50 GMT -5
I bought some premium monoprice 8k cables and haven't had any issues with cables since. Now, I've had audio lock issues with certain firmware, but it isn't the cables anymore. Again for others looking in - there is no such “premium certified” cable available - yet on the market.
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Post by cawgijoe on Apr 13, 2020 11:35:52 GMT -5
It looks like the Audioquest cables are not officially certified as you said, however this is the quote from their website: "All AudioQuest 18Gbps High Speed HDMI are guaranteed to have the 18Gbps bandwidth required for compelling features like 8K/30, HDR (High Dynamic Range) and eARC (enhanced Audio Return Channel)." My assumption would be that if you buy them and they don't work, you can return. They would probably do themselves some good to have them independently tested. Getting back to my HDMI cables....my previous generation of cables from Monoprice that were not certified for 4K worked fine with my Samsung TV with 1080p or 4K. I only upgraded them with my XMC-1 when I had it for future-proofing and because they were inexpensive. Agree with you on the better chance of things working out with "tested" cables. I am however still concerned about Samsung's Q TV sets in light of issues also seen on AVS forum. Yes - exactly the point I was making. They can claim all they like. Some cables were/are made that will happily pass the needed speed, but it’s hit and miss. Let me make one last point on Audioquest....I'm going to assume that they have done their own testing in order to make that claim. And again, IMO they should independently verify for their own marketing and sales.
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Post by cawgijoe on Apr 13, 2020 11:40:28 GMT -5
I bought some premium monoprice 8k cables and haven't had any issues with cables since. Now, I've had audio lock issues with certain firmware, but it isn't the cables anymore. Again for others looking in - there is no such “premium certified” cable available - yet on the market. Yep....Monoprice 8K cables are also not certified, but guaranteed....you have to take their word for it at the moment.
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Post by megash0n on Apr 13, 2020 13:00:25 GMT -5
I bought some premium monoprice 8k cables and haven't had any issues with cables since. Now, I've had audio lock issues with certain firmware, but it isn't the cables anymore. Again for others looking in - there is no such “premium certified” cable available - yet on the market. Yeah, I think these were "premium"... Not necessarily premium certified. 😉 I used the word, because I think they used the word in their marketing. Here is their description. Monoprice DynamicView Ultra 8K Premium High Speed HDMI Cable, 48Gbps, 8K, Dynamic HDR, eARC, 6ft Black
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Post by megash0n on Apr 13, 2020 13:09:50 GMT -5
I think the entire HDMI solution is crap in general. It's a decent "one cable solution", but the constant insistence on encrypting traffic has caused most of the pain for so long. And for what? To delay hackers for 3 months after a new revision is released? I simply don't understand the reasoning behind these industries efforts to protect their data. It should be protected, but when your encryption is broken within months of release, what's the point? All you are doing is making everyone else's job more difficult to deliver your content. Honest people aren't going to share your content. Dishonest people are. You arent going to stop them. If you price things accordingly, you remove the reason to steal. I know many people still do it, but why would you put a ton of effort into stealing music now when you can get unlimited access to HD music for the cost of a single CD per month? You can pay for individual songs you like from Apple, etc. If it can be made, it can be taken apart. Stop wasting so many resources on something so pointless as encryption and DRM. Obviously my opinion. I am certain others will have the complete opposite opinion.
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Post by cwt on Apr 13, 2020 13:41:21 GMT -5
Coincidentally the ones that shellcode ended up with a few posts above Makes sense that Belkin would be favoured for the appletv as chances are it may get upgrades increasing bandwidth described down below and 48gbps cables like the belkin will be needed For those curious ; Belkin are certified for 18gbps 4k btw they just dont use the logo for marketing - www.belkin.com/uk/p/P-AV10168/www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmVXcwRJvW8
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Post by richb on Apr 13, 2020 13:45:07 GMT -5
I use these cables for all interconnects with no issues. They are thin come in a wide variety of sizes to limit the rats nest. - Rich
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Post by Vermont99 on Apr 13, 2020 14:34:09 GMT -5
I'm using my 6 foot Blue Jean F2 Belden Bonded-Pair HDMI Cables I purchased when I got my XMC-1 when it first came out and they are working fine for me. I have a 82" Samsung Q90R to HDMI 5 on my RMC-1L the only problem I have is with my Disk 4K Joey if I turn the RMC off connected to the Dish box every so often the RMC will lock-up when I turn it on so I switch to my DVD player prior to shutting down no more problem when starting up. Emo knows about it and should have it fixed in the next firmware.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Apr 13, 2020 15:35:01 GMT -5
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Post by ttocs on Apr 14, 2020 10:01:58 GMT -5
I've been trying to find where I saw something that mentioned requiring the usage of the supplied EMM-1 microphone for Dirac. Can anyone else confirm that we must use the EMM-1 mic with Dirac? Or can we use a different mic like the UMIK-1?
I ask because I'm on the fence at this point whether to order a UMIK-1 or not. If I get the UMIK-1 I'll also get a miniDSP, might as well.
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Post by stiehl11 on Apr 14, 2020 11:55:25 GMT -5
I've been trying to find where I saw something that mentioned requiring the usage of the supplied EMM-1 microphone for Dirac. Can anyone else confirm that we must use the EMM-1 mic with Dirac? Or can we use a different mic like the UMIK-1? I ask because I'm on the fence at this point whether to order a UMIK-1 or not. If I get the UMIK-1 I'll also get a miniDSP, might as well. I asked this question last week to Emotiva and this was their reply: The new version of DIrac Live works with pretty well all third party calibrated USB microphones - including the Umik. (Note that we also include our own calibrated microphone with the unit at no charge.)
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Post by KeithL on Apr 14, 2020 23:03:54 GMT -5
There's something else worth mentioning here.
The version of the Dirac Live which works with the XMC-1 was a custom version of the software. Therefore, both the Full and LE versions had limitations and capabilities that were unique to our custom version.
With the new version of Dirac Live that is used on the RMC-1, RMC-1L, and XMC-2....
The "engine module" that is integrated into our firmware is unique to us.... And out Emotive Dirac Network Interface box is also unique....
And, therefore, details like how the Dirac filters are accessed from our menu system, and where the filters are stored on our units, are also unique.
However, the Dirac Live calibration software that runs on your computer is now standardized.... (This means that details like which microphones it supports, which you can read about on various forums, are the same for everyone who runs the current version...)
I've been trying to find where I saw something that mentioned requiring the usage of the supplied EMM-1 microphone for Dirac. Can anyone else confirm that we must use the EMM-1 mic with Dirac? Or can we use a different mic like the UMIK-1? I ask because I'm on the fence at this point whether to order a UMIK-1 or not. If I get the UMIK-1 I'll also get a miniDSP, might as well.
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Post by megash0n on Apr 15, 2020 21:53:05 GMT -5
I'm growing quite frustrated with the types of issues I continue to have with this processor. This is twice in 3 days I have had to get out of bed to power down all my devices, unplug the RMC, and turn it all back on in order due to the RMC locking up or being taxed heavily by some "run away code" or "error handling gone bad". 3 reboots didn't help. The audio locks on PCM 2.0 and will never play audio again until I unplug the RMC. Hitting Info will take over a minute to pop up. I'm really at a loss for words.
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Post by Lsc on Apr 15, 2020 23:11:35 GMT -5
I'm growing quite frustrated with the types of issues I continue to have with this processor. This is twice in 3 days I have had to get out of bed to power down all my devices, unplug the RMC, and turn it all back on in order due to the RMC locking up or being taxed heavily by some "run away code" or "error handling gone bad". 3 reboots didn't help. The audio locks on PCM 2.0 and will never play audio again until I unplug the RMC. Hitting Info will take over a minute to pop up. I'm really at a loss for words. That real stinks man. I don’t know why the RMC1 gets locked up like that. My XMC2 has locked up maybe twice, when I was heavy doing stuff in the menus. I wonder what the difference is. Maybe you have a defective unit that Emotiva can replace?
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Post by megash0n on Apr 16, 2020 5:48:06 GMT -5
I'm growing quite frustrated with the types of issues I continue to have with this processor. This is twice in 3 days I have had to get out of bed to power down all my devices, unplug the RMC, and turn it all back on in order due to the RMC locking up or being taxed heavily by some "run away code" or "error handling gone bad". 3 reboots didn't help. The audio locks on PCM 2.0 and will never play audio again until I unplug the RMC. Hitting Info will take over a minute to pop up. I'm really at a loss for words. That real stinks man. I don’t know why the RMC1 gets locked up like that. My XMC2 has locked up maybe twice, when I was heavy doing stuff in the menus. I wonder what the difference is. Maybe you have a defective unit that Emotiva can replace? It's either hardware or it's software. If it were hardware, production hopefully would have stopped until a replacement solution was found.
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Post by bblv on Apr 16, 2020 10:01:41 GMT -5
I've only had one time where it locked up when booting up, showing the Please Wait indefinitely. I have had numerous other ongoing gremlins mostly related to lack of video requiring an input switch and strange random pops from the speakers.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Apr 16, 2020 10:31:01 GMT -5
That real stinks man. I don’t know why the RMC1 gets locked up like that. My XMC2 has locked up maybe twice, when I was heavy doing stuff in the menus. I wonder what the difference is. Maybe you have a defective unit that Emotiva can replace? It's either hardware or it's software. If it were hardware, production hopefully would have stopped until a replacement solution was found. I know there’s a front panel test with the XMC-1 that amongst other things told you whether the CEC hardware is good, I assume that still works with the new processors. It would be nice if there were other hardware tests that could be done by the end user, possibly built in to the ‘Advanced Menu’, but probably easier said than done. Right now getting the firmware cleaned up is the most significant concern, and making the upgrade process more bulletproof and recoverable is an important part.
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Post by megash0n on Apr 16, 2020 10:40:15 GMT -5
I've only had one time where it locked up when booting up, showing the Please Wait indefinitely. I have had numerous other ongoing gremlins mostly related to lack of video requiring an input switch and strange random pops from the speakers. I had that video issue until 1.8. Mine was pretty stable for a while, and then just started acting up randomly, doing things that I thought were fixed in previous firmwares. My best guess is that some of the code is being overhauled which is causing some earlier issues to pop back up.
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