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Post by klinemj on May 14, 2020 16:59:10 GMT -5
I don't think I saw that...was it a link directly to Dirac or a forum discussion about Dirac's bass module? I've not seen much detail at all from Dirac directly...just a lot of fluff. Almost reads like Sonos websites for the most part...flowery but not much detail. Mark Mark, here is that post. I highlighted the link in Red just now for better visibility. emotivalounge.proboards.com/post/1030769Thanks! I had missed that. Within ProBoards, links often just blend in (which is why I always do special formatting to highlight the link). Where did you even find that? I looked all over Dirac's site for something like that and found nothings. Their site is full of pretty pictures and short on details. Even so, being a setup guide - it doesn't tell a whole lot. But, given it still just outputs filters, it should be simple enough to make work on Emotiva gear (And now Lonnie has committed that it will work.) Mark
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Post by megash0n on May 14, 2020 17:07:23 GMT -5
Checked the cables multiple times, but thanks for the suggestion. 👍I don't have the equipment or the skills to make my own cable 😊But I think I will look for a mini jack to micro jack cable in stereo or mono depending on what geebo comes back with. HERE is a cable that I use and it works great. No need for finicky adapters that are prone to loosing contact... Oddly, now my IR IN isn't working. I noticed my IR Blaster was enabled. I disabled, but it still isn't working. I'll assume it is something messed up on my end for now and mess with it later.
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Post by megash0n on May 14, 2020 17:09:11 GMT -5
Thanks! I had missed that. Within ProBoards, links often just blend in (which is why I always do special formatting to highlight the link). Where did you even find that? I looked all over Dirac's site for something like that and found nothings. Their site is full of pretty pictures and short on details. Even so, being a setup guide - it doesn't tell a whole lot. But, given it still just outputs filters, it should be simple enough to make work on Emotiva gear (And now Lonnie has committed that it will work.) Mark I've been in contact with Dirac over the past couple of weeks trying to understand what is different between Dirac Live and DBC. Mainly to understand what changes may or may not need to be made for it to work. During that process, they sent me that PDF. In regards to any changes, it does look like, based on other implementations of DBC, the DBC wants and needs control over the crossover section for each channel group. I don't know this as fact, but everything I've read sure does seem to indicate so.
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Post by SteveH on May 14, 2020 17:38:56 GMT -5
I have an RMC-1 and have a question. Does the RMC-1 volume go to +11 to emulate the movie 'This Is Spinal Tap'? Just a thought. Yep, thats where it came from. Your the first person to get it. Lonnie Kudos to the Emotiva team for their ingenuity and subliminal sense of humor, it is now obvious which generation is at the Emotiva helm
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Post by ttocs on May 14, 2020 17:53:10 GMT -5
FW-1.10 IR-In/Blaster settings/operation
Wired IR from my BAFX IR Repeater works as advertised with the XMC-2. Front IR In and Front IR Blaster are both disabled, and the Mono Cable is inserted into the IR-In on the back (I made sure it wasn't the IR-Out, easy mistake when I can't fit my head back there).
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Post by megash0n on May 14, 2020 17:55:53 GMT -5
FW-1.10 IR-In/Blaster settings/operation Wired IR from my BAFX IR Repeater works as advertised with the XMC-2. Front IR In and Front IR Blaster are both disabled, and the Mono Cable is inserted into the IR-In on the back (I made sure it wasn't the IR-Out, easy mistake when I can't fit my head back there). I haven't touched mine. It's worked for months. I am also having issues with my home automation hub, so that is potentially the issue. I'll check everything else out to make sure it is working. I need to confirm the iTac is online and receiving data.
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Post by geebo on May 14, 2020 19:16:57 GMT -5
I use the same arrangement with the adapter at the hub end. I'd have to suspect a cable. Are you using a stereo cable or mono. (not sure it would make a difference but it may) Hmm I'm not sure it was just a cable I had lying around, but I just tried to connect another 10 meter mini jack cable I just received that doesn't work either, that is a stereo cable, what type of cable are you using? I am using mono cables.
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Post by megash0n on May 14, 2020 19:26:25 GMT -5
Hmm I'm not sure it was just a cable I had lying around, but I just tried to connect another 10 meter mini jack cable I just received that doesn't work either, that is a stereo cable, what type of cable are you using? I am using mono cables. I thought I was using a mono as well, but looking at it today, it is one of those triple contact ones. Pretty sure it came with my iTac.
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Post by geebo on May 14, 2020 19:42:19 GMT -5
I just now noticed that the Dolby upmixer has a setting called center spread. Has it always been there?
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Post by klinemj on May 14, 2020 20:02:00 GMT -5
I've been in contact with Dirac over the past couple of weeks trying to understand what is different between Dirac Live and DBC. Mainly to understand what changes may or may not need to be made for it to work. During that process, they sent me that PDF. Info like that available on their website would certainly help. As is, their website is a very pretty site with a lot of pretty pictures and links that lead to more pretty pictures...and overall, it's a "very shallow pool". I've given them feedback on that before, but it just stays the same. Mark
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Post by Thunderduck on May 14, 2020 20:30:03 GMT -5
OK... that makes more sense...
That may be something we still need to look into.... Just to clarify a bit further....
You say " If I change to another source, I get audio through the RMC."... so, if you change the RMC-1 to a different input, the audio works. So does that mean that audio from other sources works - but audio from the original source still won't work if you switch back to it until you reboot the RMC-1? If so, then that sounds like the original source is somehow "getting confused" and that it then stops sending audio to us.....
(And then, when you reboot the RMC-1, it renegotiates its output settings...)
And, if so, I wonder if the audio would come back if you reboot the source device rather than the RMC-1
(if so, then there might be some sort of "sleep" setting on it that would affect how this progresses....
Back and after 4 1/2 hours of the RMC not being on, it appears to be working with 1.7/6 firmware. (No, I did not take a 4 1/2 hour nap!) I just now installed 1.10 and this time I unplugged the RMC's power and removed all of the source devices for about 30 seconds. I then plugged power and sources devices back and using the rocker switch powered the RMC back on. After going through its reboot, the RMC came up on the correct input (Cable TV) and the audio is working through the RMC!! I will not know for sure if the issue has been resolved until the RMC has been put into Standby mode for several hours. So I will be going into Video Remains on mode now. If anyone has issues after updating, I strongly suggest that they do as Keith suggested and I should have in the beginning the following: 3) IF YOU ENCOUNTER ANY ODD BEHAVIOR AFTER PERFORMING THE UPDATE... WE SUGGEST THAT YOU RESET ALL OF THE HDMI DEVICES YOU HAVE CONNECTED TO YOUR PROCESSOR. TO DO THIS YOU MUST PHYSICALLY UNPLUG THE AC POWER ON YOUR PROCESSOR, YOUR TV OR PROJECTOR, AND ALL CONNECTED HDMI DEVICES. Everything must be unplugged AT THE SAME TIME for at least ten seconds. This will ensure that all of your devices go through a full reboot. (We DO NOT REQUIRE this but, if you have ANY problems, then you should do it.) Will let all know how it goes latter on tonight. Before I leave this issue, just want to say that the performance of the RMC with this firmware is outstanding! Bring on Dirac!! Regards, Steve So far so good. Everything working as it should. Big test will be in the morning but I have a feeling it will be fine. Tks to all, Steve
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Post by megash0n on May 14, 2020 20:35:44 GMT -5
I've been in contact with Dirac over the past couple of weeks trying to understand what is different between Dirac Live and DBC. Mainly to understand what changes may or may not need to be made for it to work. During that process, they sent me that PDF. Info like that available on their website would certainly help. As is, their website is a very pretty site with a lot of pretty pictures and links that lead to more pretty pictures...and overall, it's a "very shallow pool". I've given them feedback on that before, but it just stays the same. Mark I agree. I think they are more into algorithms than HTML. 😂😂😂
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Post by ttocs on May 14, 2020 20:50:55 GMT -5
I just now noticed that the Dolby upmixer has a setting called center spread. Has it always been there? Yes. I'm not sure, but it may be one of those settings that's situational and only shows up with certain other settings having been enabled.
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Post by klinemj on May 14, 2020 20:51:24 GMT -5
Info like that available on their website would certainly help. As is, their website is a very pretty site with a lot of pretty pictures and links that lead to more pretty pictures...and overall, it's a "very shallow pool". I've given them feedback on that before, but it just stays the same. Mark I agree. I think they are more into algorithms than HTML. 😂😂😂 I guess if I had my choice - I would rather they were good at algorithms. The math behind it does take me back to my Purdue Chemical Engineering Process Control Theory days. Pretty much the same math applied to different problems but based in the same fundamentals. Mark
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Post by PaulBe on May 14, 2020 21:40:32 GMT -5
I've been in contact with Dirac over the past couple of weeks trying to understand what is different between Dirac Live and DBC. Mainly to understand what changes may or may not need to be made for it to work. During that process, they sent me that PDF. Info like that available on their website would certainly help. As is, their website is a very pretty site with a lot of pretty pictures and links that lead to more pretty pictures...and overall, it's a "very shallow pool". I've given them feedback on that before, but it just stays the same. Mark Gotta sell the sizzle, not the steak. Dirac's biggest accomplishment is telling everyone how wonderful they are.
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Post by klinemj on May 14, 2020 21:57:52 GMT -5
Info like that available on their website would certainly help. As is, their website is a very pretty site with a lot of pretty pictures and links that lead to more pretty pictures...and overall, it's a "very shallow pool". I've given them feedback on that before, but it just stays the same. Mark Gotta sell the sizzle, not the steak. Dirac's biggest accomplishment is telling everyone how wonderful they are. While I understand both, I do think Dirac's approach (with the time domain) does sound superior to other alternatives. I had older versions of Audessey and EmoQ and have heard others and used REW. I didn't like the results of those, but I do like Dirac. Mark
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Post by PaulBe on May 14, 2020 22:16:08 GMT -5
Gotta sell the sizzle, not the steak. Dirac's biggest accomplishment is telling everyone how wonderful they are. While I understand both, I do think Dirac's approach (with the time domain) does sound superior to other alternatives. I had older versions of Audessey and EmoQ and have heard others and used REW. I didn't like the results of those, but I do like Dirac. Mark I'm looking forward to trying it when it comes. I'll give it a thorough workout.
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Post by markc on May 15, 2020 3:02:42 GMT -5
If bi-amp crossovers are implemented, don't we need to know when the attenuation actually starts to apply the proper HPF/LPF? - Rich You know that from the filter parameters such as topology (Linkwitz-Riley, Butterworth, Bessel, Chebyshev, etc.), order (roll-off), and target corner frequency. It is a transfer function so is always "proper" but no filter instantly changes from 0 dB to whatever dB per octave -- there is always a transition region. The idea is that, in a crossover, the high-pass and low-pass sections with the same corner frequency maintain the same acoustic output through the crossover region. Both sides roll off "together" so the output is constant. Sometimes the crossovers can get rather complicated but for most of us just a simple LR4 (Linkwitz-Riley, fourth-order, 24 dB/octave) will be good enough. For example, look at the diagram here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linkwitz%E2%80%93Riley_filterHTH - Don I just think it is a dangerous business planning to use a Surround Sound Processor as your speaker driver crossover in multi-amping. If a setting gets accidentally changed or if it resets on a firmware update or you accidentally engage a profile like Dirac where the crossover filters you've made are suddenly lost then you can blow your tweeters in an instant if they get the wrong and full range signal.
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Post by markc on May 15, 2020 3:06:15 GMT -5
FW-1.10 IR-In/Blaster settings/operation Wired IR from my BAFX IR Repeater works as advertised with the XMC-2. Front IR In and Front IR Blaster are both disabled, and the Mono Cable is inserted into the IR-In on the back (I made sure it wasn't the IR-Out, easy mistake when I can't fit my head back there). I have a picture of the back panel of the XMC on my iPad while I feel around the back of the processor for where to plug the cables, using bolt heads, optical inputs and RCA connectors to navigate with my fingers counting the inputs!
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Post by AudioHTIT on May 15, 2020 6:19:29 GMT -5
I just think it is a dangerous business planning to use a Surround Sound Processor as your speaker driver crossover in multi-amping. If a setting gets accidentally changed or if it resets on a firmware update or you accidentally engage a profile like Dirac where the crossover filters you've made are suddenly lost then you can blow your tweeters in an instant if they get the wrong and full range signal. I’ve also wanted active bi-amp capabilities built into the new processors, and wished that the PEQ could be swapped for a filter, but I have worried about the same thing, there’s a lot of potential for damage.
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