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Post by Ex_Vintage on Mar 29, 2019 15:44:20 GMT -5
Oddly...was trying to sell the UMC-1 "as is" but just hooked it up in another system to verify it was "not" working correctly and now it appears to be working fine...  ?? oh well Great... ....with the UMC-1 acting up I thought it was a great excuse to upgrade to a 4K compatible processor even if I'm still all 1080 ...well half way through a movie yesterday evening I had the same 10-15 second blackouts and that I experienced with all sources on the UMC-1 but now on the MC-700.... Could of swore it was the UMC-1 as I tried all the sources connected directly to the projectors 50' cable without any blackouts, these are different than the normal audio delays, or no audio...the screen goes black with no error messages or odd behavior from the projector or processor, clears up and things then return to normal  Doing a bit of research it appears that the culprit is most likely the 50' HDMI cable which had been functioning fine, probably a bit of oxidization..or something along those lines. And here I had my UMC-1 listed "As Is" for a song ..when it wasn't to blame at all....well it's now relisted but priced according. I'd return the MC-700 and reinstall the UMC-1 but unfortunately here in Canada we do not have same 30 day return from our distributors...more like a 14 day with 10-15% restocking. : ( At least it matches my XSP-1 Gen II and I'm nor ready for 4K and HDR. : ) Is it possible that something else in the house has changed to introduce a new noise source? New appliance or other piece of equipment. You may have just reached a different level of noise environment that effects the 50ft HDMI cable (which is fairly long). I run a 25ft cable from PC to MC-700 with no issues. |
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Post by rob80b on Mar 29, 2019 16:14:50 GMT -5
Is it possible that something else in the house has changed to introduce a new noise source? New appliance or other piece of equipment. You may have just reached a different level of noise environment that effects the 50ft HDMI cable (which is fairly long). I run a 25ft cable from PC to MC-700 with no issues. Anything is possible...the Epson Pro Cinema projector was installed almost 6 weeks ago, nothing else has changed AFAIK. As I posted elsewhere the Achilles heal is the 19 pin HDMI connector and the internal wires...a bit of oxidization or a break in any one would cause a failure, possible intermittent which is the most difficult to trouble shoot.
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Post by rob80b on Mar 29, 2019 21:56:58 GMT -5
Well went a whole evening without any glitches at all....for now. : )
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Post by rbk123 on Mar 29, 2019 21:59:09 GMT -5
Move the processor and source close to the projector and try with a different cable to the projector but the same cable from the source to the processor. If it works fine, you know it's your 50' cable. Which I'd agree is awfully long. For that length fiber or active seems a must.
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Post by rob80b on Mar 30, 2019 7:16:36 GMT -5
Move the processor and source close to the projector and try with a different cable to the projector but the same cable from the source to the processor. If it works fine, you know it's your 50' cable. Which I'd agree is awfully long. For that length fiber or active seems a must. I reset the cable and all appears to be currently working...... for now....... yep 50' is long but when I original setup a few years ago I needed approximately 38-39" to run along the front, side and back wall, but if memory doesn't fail me the cables only came in 35' or 50', now I see there are plenty at 40'. www.amazon.ca/s?k=hdmi+cable+40+ftMay order one to have on hand...nothing worse than missing out on movie night....which is every night. : ) |
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Post by daveczski65 on Mar 30, 2019 16:13:57 GMT -5
I finally got my Interga DTR 40.4 and lucky me got one that wont power on at all.So back too accessories4less maybe i should have just stuck with emotiva,,at least it powered on!!lol Bummer - although the Fusion 8100's I had eventually stopped powering on at all, the XDA-2 I had couldn't use the remote because the IR sensor went bad, the ERC-1's I had both randomly stopped reading discs, and one even ate one... I encourage you and everyone else, if you have problems with a product on A4L in the future to contact the manufacturer. Usually they'll just swap out for another one - and sometimes it'll even be NOS. It went back today and they are sending another one,Hopefully this one wrks,If not back to them for a refund and then may consider a MC 700? |
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Post by The History Kid on Mar 30, 2019 16:29:47 GMT -5
Bummer - although the Fusion 8100's I had eventually stopped powering on at all, the XDA-2 I had couldn't use the remote because the IR sensor went bad, the ERC-1's I had both randomly stopped reading discs, and one even ate one... I encourage you and everyone else, if you have problems with a product on A4L in the future to contact the manufacturer. Usually they'll just swap out for another one - and sometimes it'll even be NOS. It went back today and they are sending another one,Hopefully this one wrks,If not back to them for a refund and then may consider a MC 700? Eh. IMO there are better options for the money than the MC-700 on the whole anyway. Nothing the MC-700 ever did convinced me it was any better than an AVR with no amp section. Give the incoming DTR a try, and if two failures occur, there's still another online vendor that should get you a good deal on a new model of something else. |
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Post by daveczski65 on Mar 30, 2019 16:34:19 GMT -5
Thanks for the words of wisdom,,will wait and try..I did like the Denon,but was just over my spending alotment.
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Post by The History Kid on Mar 30, 2019 20:27:18 GMT -5
Thanks for the words of wisdom,,will wait and try..I did like the Denon,but was just over my spending alotment. I totally hear you. I am (was and still am) a student, and while I've got career placement, the student loans are icky. It makes this hobby a bit of a sand trap - but there are ways around it to find good value deals - sometimes it just takes patience. Keep us posted! |
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Post by MusicHead on Mar 31, 2019 15:42:19 GMT -5
It went back today and they are sending another one,Hopefully this one wrks,If not back to them for a refund and then may consider a MC 700? Eh. IMO there are better options for the money than the MC-700 on the whole anyway. For example? It is an honest question, I am not being sarcastic. I have a Fusion 8100, with which I am very happy. At some point I will go separate, but I do not see much around in a slim form factor, like the MC-700, when it comes to pre/pro for mixed use, music and home theater. |
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Post by The History Kid on Apr 1, 2019 19:25:55 GMT -5
Eh. IMO there are better options for the money than the MC-700 on the whole anyway. For example? It is an honest question, I am not being sarcastic. I have a Fusion 8100, with which I am very happy. At some point I will go separate, but I do not see much around in a slim form factor, like the MC-700, when it comes to pre/pro for mixed use, music and home theater. Your Fusion is an example. If you want 4K there are dozens of AVR's out there with pre-outs to do the job. The MC is not an AVR beater, by any means. What it provides IMO is an option for someone who wants separates for the sake of separates. But if you want more power with a power amp, your money is much better spent on an AVR with pre outs. Nothing in all of the configurations in all of the rooms we have has ever disappointed me more than the MC-700 did. |
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Post by moe on Apr 2, 2019 9:54:16 GMT -5
I'm glad to hear the UMC! didn't croak. I have always loved mine. I put it up against many units over the years for sound. Denons at 3x price, Onkyo at 4x and several more from 1 to 3k. For music I've not found one better with hdmi that I can afford.......I just hope before it dies Emotiva creates a 1k unit that sounds as good and works better.
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Post by adaboy on Apr 2, 2019 13:29:38 GMT -5
I'm glad to hear the UMC! didn't croak. I have always loved mine. I put it up against many units over the years for sound. Denons at 3x price, Onkyo at 4x and several more from 1 to 3k. For music I've not found one better with hdmi that I can afford.......I just hope before it dies Emotiva creates a 1k unit that sounds as good and works better. Sorry Moe, Emotiva has a 5k model that doesn't work either. Good luck getting a working one for 1k. |
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Post by The History Kid on Apr 2, 2019 19:35:37 GMT -5
I'm glad to hear the UMC! didn't croak. I have always loved mine. I put it up against many units over the years for sound. Denons at 3x price, Onkyo at 4x and several more from 1 to 3k. For music I've not found one better with hdmi that I can afford.......I just hope before it dies Emotiva creates a 1k unit that sounds as good and works better. Sorry Moe, Emotiva has a 5k model that doesn't work either. Good luck getting a working one for 1k. That's a shame to hear, you'd think they'd be better at troubleshooting something that someone is paying a premium on. And before anyone else "its best at its price point" - not if it only sometimes works. Emotiva advertises quality and functionality above its price range. If only one of those is true, then the advertisement is moot. I'm glad I found Emotiva for amps though. I've had options for others but I've come to be able to rely on the XPA's - I just wish I could say the same for anything else. |
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Post by cyyyr05 on Apr 25, 2019 10:08:32 GMT -5
Sounds like there are lots of problems with the MC 700 and now I am contemplating whether i should replace my Krell Showcase Pre-Processor (No HDMI) with it. Hi, if it's only an upgrade to enjoy the HDMI 4k I will say no because a lot of desynchronization depending on the sources at video level ..... I have no problem with my Oppo 203 player, but with my zappiti media player I have HDR concerns (like a whiteout) and with my UHD TV decoder I have permanent desynchronization! All devices connected to HDMI 1080p no problem At the Audio level no problem for me even by changing sources I managed to get around all the worries of my HDMI 4k but for the one who has the obligation to use the MC700 for its HDMI 4k, it is not the ideal "pre amp" unfortunately |
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Post by donovan on Apr 29, 2019 22:03:58 GMT -5
Is there any word on an update/replacement for the MC-700? Hopefully all these growing pains will be sorted out in the next unit.
I currently have a Fusion 8100 receiver that has been great in my condo. I'm moving to a house and was thinking of upgrading to the MC-700 and a 5-channel amp. Obviously having second thoughts. Really want something ready for the 4k world (wish list: HDMI 2.1). Here's my problem with going with any other brand than Emotiva: I love the "Last Video" feature! I use it a lot watching sports and playing music versus listening to the TV. I don't believe any other company does something like last video. Granted, the only video I do this with is TV, so, I guess I can go old school, and run the HDMI from the Directv box to one of the TV's inputs and send the digital optical audio out to the AVR or PrePro.
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Post by adaboy on Apr 29, 2019 22:21:48 GMT -5
Is there any word on an update/replacement for the MC-700? Hopefully all these growing pains will be sorted out in the next unit. I currently have a Fusion 8100 receiver that has been great in my condo. I'm moving to a house and was thinking of upgrading to the MC-700 and a 5-channel amp. Obviously having second thoughts. Really want something ready for the 4k world (wish list: HDMI 2.1). Here's my problem with going with any other brand than Emotiva: I love the "Last Video" feature! I use it a lot watching sports and playing music versus listening to the TV. I don't believe any other company does something like last video. Granted, the only video I do this with is TV, so, I guess I can go old school, and run the HDMI from the Directv box to one of the TV's inputs and send the digital optical audio out to the AVR or PrePro. This IS the next unit in the lineup. They used the same chip as before expecting a better result. 🤷♂️ |
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Post by The History Kid on May 2, 2019 22:16:23 GMT -5
Is there any word on an update/replacement for the MC-700? Hopefully all these growing pains will be sorted out in the next unit. I currently have a Fusion 8100 receiver that has been great in my condo. I'm moving to a house and was thinking of upgrading to the MC-700 and a 5-channel amp. Obviously having second thoughts. Really want something ready for the 4k world (wish list: HDMI 2.1). Here's my problem with going with any other brand than Emotiva: I love the "Last Video" feature! I use it a lot watching sports and playing music versus listening to the TV. I don't believe any other company does something like last video. Granted, the only video I do this with is TV, so, I guess I can go old school, and run the HDMI from the Directv box to one of the TV's inputs and send the digital optical audio out to the AVR or PrePro. I have never owned any gear that DOESN'T do this. My Denon does it, the Fusion I had did it, the Yamaha before that did it, the Yamaha before that one did it. I'm not sure why it was given a feature name on Emotiva products since it's just an inherent assumption with other gear. |
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Post by donovan on May 5, 2019 19:44:38 GMT -5
Is there any word on an update/replacement for the MC-700? Hopefully all these growing pains will be sorted out in the next unit. I currently have a Fusion 8100 receiver that has been great in my condo. I'm moving to a house and was thinking of upgrading to the MC-700 and a 5-channel amp. Obviously having second thoughts. Really want something ready for the 4k world (wish list: HDMI 2.1). Here's my problem with going with any other brand than Emotiva: I love the "Last Video" feature! I use it a lot watching sports and playing music versus listening to the TV. I don't believe any other company does something like last video. Granted, the only video I do this with is TV, so, I guess I can go old school, and run the HDMI from the Directv box to one of the TV's inputs and send the digital optical audio out to the AVR or PrePro. I have never owned any gear that DOESN'T do this. My Denon does it, the Fusion I had did it, the Yamaha before that did it, the Yamaha before that one did it. I'm not sure why it was given a feature name on Emotiva products since it's just an inherent assumption with other gear. Are you able to do it with audio from an HDMI source? |
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Post by The History Kid on May 5, 2019 21:06:46 GMT -5
I have never owned any gear that DOESN'T do this. My Denon does it, the Fusion I had did it, the Yamaha before that did it, the Yamaha before that one did it. I'm not sure why it was given a feature name on Emotiva products since it's just an inherent assumption with other gear. Are you able to do it with audio from an HDMI source? Never been in a situation where I needed to pull audio via HDMI from a separate source from video. However, any unit that has 2 zone HDMI (many do these days) should be able to do this. |
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