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Post by bmoney187 on Jul 13, 2019 7:55:46 GMT -5
The revenant
Still the best PQ I have seen
And i own 300 4k UHD discs
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Post by thezone on Jul 14, 2019 18:26:47 GMT -5
The colours in Thor Ragnarok are eye popping. Dunkirk especially the aerial scenes of the Spitfires - simply stunning.
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Post by LCSeminole on Jul 16, 2019 0:31:02 GMT -5
I just bought the Nolan series Batman movies in 4K, and I was crazy impressed with 4K/HDR in The Dark Knight. Several of the scenes are shot with IMax cameras and the screen goes 16:9 in these shots. It was breathtaking. I was amazed especially since it is a movie that is almost 10 years old at this point. The John Wick movies (#2 the most) look pretty good in 4k. I have not been overly impressed with the Disney/Marvel/LucasFlim movies in 4K. They are perfectly fine, but noting that I find to be reference quality. I've always wondered how much improved The Dark Knight movies video-wise are over their 1080p versions, and they are quite impressive. I've not replaced them mainly because of the lack of 7.1 or Dolby Atmos/DTS:X tracks. Just an FYI, Amazon Prime members are being offered an extra 20% off this for their Prime Day deal of $44.99, so another $9 off at checkout, total cost $35.99 + tax. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0774D6HBB/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 |
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Post by garbulky on Jul 16, 2019 5:19:01 GMT -5
Does anybody know what happens if a 4k disc is in Dolby Vision but my tv can only do HDR 10? Will it lose HDR altogether or will it simply downshift to the most capable HDR my tv can do?
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Post by davidl81 on Jul 16, 2019 7:22:08 GMT -5
Does anybody know what happens if a 4k disc is in Dolby Vision but my tv can only do HDR 10? Will it lose HDR altogether or will it simply downshift to the most capable HDR my tv can do? It will just down shift to standard HDR |
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Post by doc1963 on Jul 16, 2019 8:26:44 GMT -5
Does anybody know what happens if a 4k disc is in Dolby Vision but my tv can only do HDR 10? Will it lose HDR altogether or will it simply downshift to the most capable HDR my tv can do? Per the UHD Blu-ray spec, all 4K UHD discs "must" contain an HDR-10 base encode. As davidl81 stated above, any disc containing Dolby Vision will default to that HDR-10 encoding when played back on non-DV compatible equipment. |
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Post by garbulky on Jul 16, 2019 8:50:56 GMT -5
Ok thanks guys!
So there were some great deals on Amazon. I ended up getting some nice 4k stuff - all 5 transformers movies and valerian city of a thousand planets. I don't think I could go wrong with those!
Also I just watched Planet Earth II in 4k - which right now is the second 4k disc. Though passengers looked decent, planet earth II was a real showcase for 4k with it being full screen.
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Post by novisnick on Jul 16, 2019 9:37:13 GMT -5
Ok thanks guys! So there were some great deals on Amazon. I ended up getting some nice 4k stuff - all 5 transformers movies and valerian city of a thousand planets. I don't think I could go wrong with those! Also I just watched Planet Earth II in 4k - which right now is the second 4k disc. Though passengers looked decent, planet earth II was a real showcase for 4k with it being full screen. This is incredible! Some of the video looks so beautiful! 4K and Atmos at its best! I spent more for this and I feel it was well worth it! Buy it NOW! LOL  how to find a gas station |
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Post by garbulky on Jul 16, 2019 16:12:49 GMT -5
Ok thanks guys! So there were some great deals on Amazon. I ended up getting some nice 4k stuff - all 5 transformers movies and valerian city of a thousand planets. I don't think I could go wrong with those! Also I just watched Planet Earth II in 4k - which right now is the second 4k disc. Though passengers looked decent, planet earth II was a real showcase for 4k with it being full screen. This is incredible! Some of the video looks so beautiful! 4K and Atmos at its best! I spent more for this and I feel it was well worth it! Buy it NOW! LOL how to find a gas stationI can't tell if you're pulling my leg Nick! |
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Post by novisnick on Jul 16, 2019 18:22:51 GMT -5
This is incredible! Some of the video looks so beautiful! 4K and Atmos at its best! I spent more for this and I feel it was well worth it! Buy it NOW! LOL how to find a gas stationI can't tell if you're pulling my leg Nick! I’m serious my friend! Buy this before the price goes up! I understand your reasoning now, I don’t know where the “LOL” came from. |
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Post by garbulky on Aug 19, 2019 11:36:29 GMT -5
Just an update:
I have got a chance to see several 4k movies now. The overall impression I've got is that 4k movies are indeed a significant improvement. I think my favorite bit has to do with the lighting. Having the lights pop out make the depth increase and also draws your eye to things you wouldn't have noticed especially in dark scenes.
Example
Ex Machina (though it has rather poor 4k quality) has got lights on Eve's robot body. This really draws your attention to all the detailing happening inside.
Avengers Endgame - so-so 4k - the lights on the suits draw attention to the detail.
Fantastic 4k movies
Planet Earth II (good golly gosh!)
A Beautiful Planet - stunning 4k shots of earth from space in IMAX.
2001 a space Oddysesy - not necessarily an improvement over the blu ray but still good golly gosh, looks amazing. Great sound as well.
Alita Battle Angel - I think this one is a given - looks great.
Aquaman- also a great blu Ray. The 4K version is just outstanding. One of the best demo worthy 4K entries. Quality, lighting, bright colors. Aquaman was built for 4k. A good example was the land battle with black manta which featured bright outdoor surroundings and laser battles. Powerful sound.
Men in black International - oh yeah IMAX all the way.
Life of Pi - what a surprise. I had seen the theater, Blu Ray and the 3d version. The 4k version is just reference grade, one of the best I've seen. It's available for $14 and it is a NO brainer. From brilliant night time scenes to great daytime scenes, this is a no brainer to own. I really felt that this was the DEFINITIVE version to see and I felt like I finally appreciated the movie. Not to mention that the movie was almost entirely in full frame (think IMAX).
Most of the transformers movies are also quite good imo
Dissapointing
Avengers Endgame - come on now where's the IMAX?!
Matrix trilogy 4k - Not enough detail considering it was a brand new 4k transfer. Marred by some film grain.
Mission Impossible Fallout - horrible film grain and blur. Decent clear Imax scenes but not necessarily better over Blu Ray.
GLOW (Netflix) - YUCK! How bad does that look in 4k?! It's made worse by the fact that it was actually shot on a great digital camera. Followed by purposefully adding halation, diffusion, and film grain to get the intended (but awful) look. Result in 4k HDR the film grain is unnaturally pronounced, there's a good bit of blur and lack of resolution.
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Post by davidl81 on Aug 19, 2019 11:44:57 GMT -5
Just an update: I have got a chance to see several 4k movies now. The overall impression I've got is that 4k movies are indeed a significant improvement. I think my favorite bit has to do with the lighting. Having the lights pop out make the depth increase and also draws your eye to things you wouldn't have noticed especially in dark scenes. Example Ex Machina (though it has rather poor 4k quality) has got lights on Eve's robot body. This really draws your attention to all the detailing happening inside. Avengers Endgame - so-so 4k - the lights on the suits draw attention to the detail. Fantastic 4k movies Planet Earth II (good golly gosh!) A Beautiful Planet - stunning 4k shots of earth from space in IMAX. 2001 a space Oddysesy - not necessarily an improvement over the blu ray but still good golly gosh, looks amazing. Great sound as well. Alita Battle Angel - I think this one is a given - looks grrreat. Dissapointing Avengers Endgame - come on now where's the IMAX?! Matrix trilogy 4k - Not enough detail considering it was a brand new 4k transfer. Marred by some film grain. Mission Impossible Fallout - horrible film grain and blur. Decent clear Imax scenes but not necessarily better over Blu Ray. GLOW (Netflix) - YUCK! How bad does that look in 4k?! It's made worse by the fact that it was actually shot on a great digital camera. Followed by purposefully adding halation, diffusion, and film grain to get the intended (but awful) look. Result in 4k HDR the film grain is unnaturally pronounced, there's a good bit of blur and lack of resolution. I like you have found the biggest impact to PQ on 4k sets is really the HDR more so than the resolution especially on my 75" Sony LCD. Now when I watch movies on the projector with a 103" screen I can see the improvements in resolution. I will say that any streaming 4k stuff (netflix, itunes etc) has not really popped to me as much as video from a 4K disc. Also go get the 4K Dark Knight movie. The scenes shot with the Imax cameras look amazing. |
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Post by garbulky on Aug 19, 2019 12:24:21 GMT -5
Just an update: I have got a chance to see several 4k movies now. The overall impression I've got is that 4k movies are indeed a significant improvement. I think my favorite bit has to do with the lighting. Having the lights pop out make the depth increase and also draws your eye to things you wouldn't have noticed especially in dark scenes. Example Ex Machina (though it has rather poor 4k quality) has got lights on Eve's robot body. This really draws your attention to all the detailing happening inside. Avengers Endgame - so-so 4k - the lights on the suits draw attention to the detail. Fantastic 4k movies Planet Earth II (good golly gosh!) A Beautiful Planet - stunning 4k shots of earth from space in IMAX. 2001 a space Oddysesy - not necessarily an improvement over the blu ray but still good golly gosh, looks amazing. Great sound as well. Alita Battle Angel - I think this one is a given - looks grrreat. Dissapointing Avengers Endgame - come on now where's the IMAX?! Matrix trilogy 4k - Not enough detail considering it was a brand new 4k transfer. Marred by some film grain. Mission Impossible Fallout - horrible film grain and blur. Decent clear Imax scenes but not necessarily better over Blu Ray. GLOW (Netflix) - YUCK! How bad does that look in 4k?! It's made worse by the fact that it was actually shot on a great digital camera. Followed by purposefully adding halation, diffusion, and film grain to get the intended (but awful) look. Result in 4k HDR the film grain is unnaturally pronounced, there's a good bit of blur and lack of resolution. I like you have found the biggest impact to PQ on 4k sets is really the HDR more so than the resolution especially on my 75" Sony LCD. Now when I watch movies on the projector with a 103" screen I can see the improvements in resolution. I will say that any streaming 4k stuff (netflix, itunes etc) has not really popped to me as much as video from a 4K disc. Also go get the 4K Dark Knight movie. The scenes shot with the Imax cameras look amazing. In terms of resolution I do see an improvement in resolution and detail over Blu Ray (when it's not marred by film grain). But the most impact comes from the lighting and also there is a certain "thickness" of color that I perceive where the colors feel richer and more alive which also help. Having said that, sometimes HDR versions of the films try to increase contrast a bit too much (perhaps it's my display calibration too). So when watching a Blu Ray I see a fabulous picture. While the HDR sometimes it can pop a bit "too much" and it looks unnatural if the popping comes in the middle of blurry film grain. Netflix 4k - I find Blu Rays actually look a bit better to me. The 4k is simply not as sharp to me. But it is still a clear improvement over streaming HD for Netflix. I've seen The Dark Knight and TDK rises on Blu Ray and I think the IMAX scenes look all kinds of good. Haven't had a chance to check it out on 4k though. |
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Post by mfeust on Aug 20, 2019 8:25:01 GMT -5
A question for all you 4kers. Do you think the image looks real and natural?
Mark
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Post by davidl81 on Aug 20, 2019 8:51:35 GMT -5
A question for all you 4kers. Do you think the image looks real and natural? Mark A lot of that depends on what display you are watching it on. I hate the LCD tvs that have the frame interpolation (soap opera effect), as I feel like those do look very fake. On my tv's I turn off that feature and live with the small amount of screen blur. Of course that has nothing to do with 4K, just has to do with the display. In comparing 4K to blu-ray it's not like some huge jump in PQ, just more of a mild step up. The extra resolution gives the picture a tad bit more "depth" and the HDR more than anything else adds a lot with the contrast between brights and darks. |
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Post by garbulky on Aug 20, 2019 9:05:28 GMT -5
A question for all you 4kers. Do you think the image looks real and natural? Mark It's a step up over Blu Ray. When properly done, it does look more real and natural. When not done right....like 4k or "director's vision" then well it's a toss up. I've watched some 4k movies where I felt the Blu Ray was probably an equal way to experience the movie. |
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Post by mfeust on Aug 20, 2019 9:05:36 GMT -5
A question for all you 4kers. Do you think the image looks real and natural? Mark A lot of that depends on what display you are watching it on. I hate the LCD tvs that have the frame interpolation (soap opera effect), as I feel like those do look very fake. On my tv's I turn off that feature and live with the small amount of screen blur. Of course that has nothing to do with 4K, just has to do with the display. In comparing 4K to blu-ray it's not like some huge jump in PQ, just more of a mild step up. The extra resolution gives the picture a tad bit more "depth" and the HDR more than anything else adds a lot with the contrast between brights and darks. But does it look real to you? I have two Panasonic plasma TV's because there image presentation look more real to me. Every time I have seen a 4k TV image it looks very fake to me. Mark |
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Post by thrillcat on Aug 20, 2019 9:14:16 GMT -5
A question for all you 4kers. Do you think the image looks real and natural? Mark It's a step up over Blu Ray. When properly done, it does look more real and natural. When not done right....like 4k or "director's vision" then well it's a toss up. I've watched some 4k movies where I felt the Blu Ray was probably an equal way to experience the movie. I don’t know what YOU mean when you say “director’s vision”, but the fact is, the only way a film is “done right” is when it’s done according to the director’s vision. It’s their art, not yours. Just because you don’t like the way a movie is shot, or edited, or lit, or whatever, does not make it wrong. |
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Post by thrillcat on Aug 20, 2019 9:16:30 GMT -5
A lot of that depends on what display you are watching it on. I hate the LCD tvs that have the frame interpolation (soap opera effect), as I feel like those do look very fake. On my tv's I turn off that feature and live with the small amount of screen blur. Of course that has nothing to do with 4K, just has to do with the display. In comparing 4K to blu-ray it's not like some huge jump in PQ, just more of a mild step up. The extra resolution gives the picture a tad bit more "depth" and the HDR more than anything else adds a lot with the contrast between brights and darks. But does it look real to you? I have two Panasonic plasma TV's because there image presentation look more real to me. Every time I have seen a 4k TV image it looks very fake to me. Mark If a 4K TV is calibrated properly, it will look more accurate. Period. If it looks fake to you, it’s not properly calibrated/configured. |
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Post by mfeust on Aug 20, 2019 9:30:43 GMT -5
IYHO. MMMV. Want do the measurement say.  Mark |
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