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Post by simpleman68 on Sept 6, 2019 8:30:49 GMT -5
I should have added that backlighted images simply DO NOT look the same as reflective images (which is what printed images, and most of what we see in real life, actually are). So, even though you can adjust a backlighted image to the same exact parameters as a printed image, or an actual physical object, it will always look different.... (And, because a modern 4k TV can match the color and brightness so well, it can actually make the basic difference between the image types more noticeable.) It could be some of the sets I've seen had the wrong settings, contrast jacked etc but I think it's the backlighting itself combined with the higher resolution that makes images appear artificial to me. I've seen a fair amount of sets, some of which were calibrated and they just didn't do it for me. The picture is incredible, bright/vibrant colors and great detail though. Scott
Appreciate the input, coincidentally I'm familiar with the aspects you addressed as I used to do post production video/audio work at a studio in NJ. We used Media 100, After Effects etc. Got to work on a lot of material for Johnson & Johnson, K-Mart, Volvo and a few others.
Also spent a decade doing graphic artwork (Photoshop, Illustrator et al) and always had to explain to clients that the printed image can never match what they see on a lighted screen; not to mention the RGB to CMYK conversion.
I think it's a personal preference that I'm drawn more to what you'd see at a good theater although the step up to a 4K HDR capable projector was a huge upgrade in my theater. It also makes a difference that I'm projecting a 165" image with the front row being about 15' away. Just about perfect for immersion/believe-ability IMO. Scott
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Post by 405x5 on Sept 6, 2019 8:34:56 GMT -5
In around 10 days ALL my discs will be 4K automatically....even my old DVD 📀 ‘S.....
That’s when my newest prescription glasses are supposed to be ready.
Bill
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Post by gzubeck on Dec 10, 2019 16:41:39 GMT -5
It might not be the best 4k disc but the original blade runner movie is hugely improved by 4k. It's not the resolution but the colors seem to pop compared to the bluray version plus improved audio. I feel like I'm watching a regular dvd when viewing blade runner blueray compared to the 4k version.
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Post by garbulky on Dec 11, 2019 13:08:40 GMT -5
I just tried Frozen 4k UHD which had been rated quite good. Unfortunately the results were mediocre, very close to the Blu-Ray. There was some sparkles on the snow monster and Elsa's dress that were more obvious but overall I think the detail present in the CGI was slightly on the diffuse side. Not necessarily the fault of the 4k disc but perhaps the source material. Not worth the purchase.
Also watched Charlie's Angels in 4k. This had a good bit more detail though the level of sharpness wasn't that great on some scenes. It's still an upgrade over the Blu-Ray.
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Post by garbulky on Dec 20, 2019 19:22:28 GMT -5
Just watched Dora and the lost city of gold on Blu ray. The video quality is surprisingly excellent with vibrant primary colors, lots of fine detail etc. Top notch. Let down only by cartoonish cgi. The story is of course for kids.
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Post by davidl81 on Dec 20, 2019 22:55:26 GMT -5
Just watched Dora and the lost city of gold on Blu ray. The video quality is surprisingly excellent with vibrant primary colors, lots of fine detail etc. Top notch. Let down only by cartoonish cgi. The story is of course for kids. I brought my kids to see it at the theater and we bought it at the house. It’s not the worst kids movie I’ve watched. Kinda cute |
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Post by garbulky on Dec 28, 2019 15:42:34 GMT -5
I know this is not out in 4k uhd blu ray yet...but the streaming HDR version of Lost in Space Season 2 is all kinds of great looking. Colors are dense and gorgeous. The lights on the space suit pops alongside huge amounts of detail.
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Post by novisnick on Dec 28, 2019 19:17:47 GMT -5
I know this is not out in 4k uhd blu ray yet...but the streaming HDR version of Lost in Space Season 2 is all kinds of great looking. Colors are dense and gorgeous. The lights on the space suit pops alongside huge amounts of detail. I saw that Lost in Space was available but haven’t viewed it yet. Is it worthwhile? |
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Post by garbulky on Dec 28, 2019 21:04:39 GMT -5
I know this is not out in 4k uhd blu ray yet...but the streaming HDR version of Lost in Space Season 2 is all kinds of great looking. Colors are dense and gorgeous. The lights on the space suit pops alongside huge amounts of detail. I saw that Lost in Space was available but haven’t viewed it yet. Is it worthwhile? What I’ve seen so far is good. |
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Post by meldhache on Dec 29, 2019 22:41:39 GMT -5
HEP just finish viewing saison 2 of lost in Space ; imop very good story line and the way it was finish, Space for saison 3 despite death of major players !!!!
Mel
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Post by garbulky on Jan 1, 2020 21:47:52 GMT -5
Got to see Ad Astra on 4k UHD. The movie is good but ultimately a bit depressing. Special effects are good. But the purchase on 4k UHD is not worth it. There is stylized film grain that prevents things from being ultra sharp. Not that it looked bad or blurred. I say rent it on Blu-ray and I doubt you'll miss anything.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jan 1, 2020 21:58:00 GMT -5
Got to see Ad Astra on 4k UHD. The movie is good but ultimately a bit depressing. Special effects are good. But the purchase on 4k UHD is not worth it. There is stylized film grain that prevents things from being ultra sharp. Not that it looked bad or blurred. I say rent it on Blu-ray and I doubt you'll miss anything. Except the Atmos soundtrack that accompanies most UHD disks and not Blu-rays. I know you listen in stereo, but this thread isn’t just about picture quality. |
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Post by garbulky on Jan 1, 2020 22:57:28 GMT -5
Godzilla 1998 4k UHD Blu-ray. A real disappointment. I have watched this movie several times on different formats. I don't notice a difference over the Blu-Ray. Lots of film grain and an overall poor quality presentation. If I had to guess, this is simply a blu-ray rebadge from the early days of 4k. Even as a Blu-Ray it's poor quality.
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Post by garbulky on Jan 1, 2020 22:59:11 GMT -5
Got to see Ad Astra on 4k UHD. The movie is good but ultimately a bit depressing. Special effects are good. But the purchase on 4k UHD is not worth it. There is stylized film grain that prevents things from being ultra sharp. Not that it looked bad or blurred. I say rent it on Blu-ray and I doubt you'll miss anything. Except the Atmos soundtrack that accompanies most UHD disks and not Blu-rays. I know you listen in stereo, but this thread isn’t just about picture quality. Unfortunately I am quite inexperienced in surround sound formats. I've only experienced 5.1 (Which I thought sounded great on Gravity). |
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Post by cawgijoe on Jan 2, 2020 8:11:25 GMT -5
Got to see Ad Astra on 4k UHD. The movie is good but ultimately a bit depressing. Special effects are good. But the purchase on 4k UHD is not worth it. There is stylized film grain that prevents things from being ultra sharp. Not that it looked bad or blurred. I say rent it on Blu-ray and I doubt you'll miss anything. I find that some 4K blurays really stand out from their standard counterparts and others don't look like much of an improvement PQ wise. I think alot has to do with film grain. I personally don't care for firm grain, but many people do. Since many films are shot with film grain, if the 4K version is cleaned up and not true to the original film, some people are unhappy. I prefer the 4K version to be clean,sharp, and dynamic. I want to see a real difference. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jan 2, 2020 9:40:31 GMT -5
Except the Atmos soundtrack that accompanies most UHD disks and not Blu-rays. I know you listen in stereo, but this thread isn’t just about picture quality. Unfortunately I am quite inexperienced in surround sound formats. I've only experienced 5.1 (Which I thought sounded great on Gravity). ... and I apologize, I reread your first post and this thread IS about picture quality. |
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Post by LCSeminole on Jan 2, 2020 21:48:23 GMT -5
While I really look for a 5-star video rating with UHD-blurays, I've been particular with the movies I now buy since I've installed 4 height channels. Thus the audio has to also be stellar.
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Post by stiehl11 on Jan 3, 2020 10:42:50 GMT -5
Godzilla 1998 4k UHD Blu-ray. A real disappointment. I have watched this movie several times on different formats. I don't notice a difference over the Blu-Ray. Lots of film grain and an overall poor quality presentation. If I had to guess, this is simply a blu-ray rebadge from the early days of 4k. Even as a Blu-Ray it's poor quality. There's film grain because it was shot on film. Attack of the Clones was one of the first (if not the first) movies shot completely in digital in 2002. Prior to that, only certain parts of a film were shot in digital. When movies shot on film are scanned for home media release, they're scanned at a resolution comparable to the best format of the time. They will not re-scan the movie unless they think that they will get a return on their investment. An example would be when The Beatles "Help" was released. Each frame from the master print was cleaned and repaired, then scanned and color corrected for the release. This was very expensive! Godzilla (1998) was not well received and was considered a box office flop. It has not gained cult-status like other notable box office flops such as Fantasia or even Rocky Horror. Therefore it is highly unlikely that the studio has re-scanned the original print from the time that it was first scanned (which may have been for the DVD release). Just because it's on a new format does not mean that it is an improved picture. |
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Post by stiehl11 on Jan 3, 2020 10:46:19 GMT -5
While I really look for a 5-star video rating with UHD-blurays, I've been particular with the movies I now buy since I've installed 4 height channels. Thus the audio has to also be stellar. The film "Mother" to have an great soundtrack effectively using the surround channels to complement the action on screen. The plot and execution of the film wasn't that great; definitely would consider it an "art house" type of film. But was very impressed with the soundtrack. |
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Post by drtrey3 on Jan 3, 2020 11:15:54 GMT -5
I enjoy a nice film grain. Really. That is how the film actually looks. A digital production does not have the grain, and for me, the image can take on a flat quality despite the improvement in detail. I guess I am an analog preference guy.
Trey
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