|
Post by Casey Leedom on Nov 24, 2020 23:42:21 GMT -5
So I'm a little confused here. I thought that the RMC-1/1L/XMC-2 mostly act as a HDMI Pass Through Switch. Is it not transparent to HDR10+?
And yes, I know that it has to cope with a lot of stuff because it layers on-screen menus on top of images, etc. I think that in retrospect, we can all see that was a ... "difficult" idea given the implementation complexities ...
Casey
|
|
|
Post by audioguru on Nov 25, 2020 13:10:02 GMT -5
Thanks for the information
|
|
motsu
Minor Hero
Posts: 18
|
Post by motsu on Nov 26, 2020 0:53:49 GMT -5
So I'm a little confused here. I thought that the RMC-1/1L/XMC-2 mostly act as a HDMI Pass Through Switch. Is it not transparent to HDR10+? And yes, I know that it has to cope with a lot of stuff because it layers on-screen menus on top of images, etc. I think that in retrospect, we can all see that was a ... "difficult" idea given the implementation complexities ... Casey OSD displays appear over hdr content without kicking the signal back down to SDR. this is the same for hdr10 and dolby vision. you can also disable the osd overlays for things like volume and speaker mode changes (in that case, only pressing the menu button brings up the OSD). thankfully with such a large display you can see everything you need to on the xmc2 & friends without needing the osd
|
|
|
Post by dkaudio on Nov 26, 2020 14:09:36 GMT -5
I just received my XMC-2 this week. I would say about half the time, it will get stuck at the boot screen. Also, twice, I have been navigating through the menu and it has frozen. I have tried both holding the power button for a soft shut down and hitting the main power switch on the rear.
Navigating through the menu is painfully slow too, hit a button, wait anywhere from 3-8 seconds for a response.
I really hope this isn't DOA, I took work off to play with Dirac while no one else would be home.
Any ideas?
|
|
kempf
Minor Hero
Posts: 28
|
Post by kempf on Nov 26, 2020 14:48:58 GMT -5
Hi.
Try to boot without any usb and network cables plugged in.
regards
|
|
|
Post by comporellon on Nov 27, 2020 5:53:37 GMT -5
I just received my XMC-2 this week. I would say about half the time, it will get stuck at the boot screen. Also, twice, I have been navigating through the menu and it has frozen. I have tried both holding the power button for a soft shut down and hitting the main power switch on the rear. Navigating through the menu is painfully slow too, hit a button, wait anywhere from 3-8 seconds for a response. I really hope this isn't DOA, I took work off to play with Dirac while no one else would be home. Any ideas? Hi! Remove the network cable. I had the same problem. It solved. And some say that disabling HDMI ARC can help too.
|
|
|
Post by benbvan on Nov 29, 2020 15:08:40 GMT -5
Firmware update after 2.1??
I'm not sure where I left off on the discussion, and after reading the last 10 pages of this thread I'm still lost on what's next for the G3 processors as far as stability improvements and updated features. I continue to have to hard power cycle my RMC-1L every other day, and I STILL haven't ran Dirac because I just know it would make this unit even less stable. In the past 10 pages I see "the company" has evaded questions about improvements. Kind of like when I sent my DR3 in for check because it was dropping channels when playing loudly at full ramge, without any distortion. Simply told all is well and I'm overdrive it..
Regardless of any of what I've read the past few pages or my experiences. Does anyone know when to expect better functionality/stability with the G3 processors?
|
|
cawgijoe
Emo VIPs
"We made too many of the wrong mistakes." - Yogi Berra
Posts: 4,914
|
Post by cawgijoe on Nov 29, 2020 17:45:22 GMT -5
Firmware update after 2.1?? I'm not sure where I left off on the discussion, and after reading the last 10 pages of this thread I'm still lost on what's next for the G3 processors as far as stability improvements and updated features. I continue to have to hard power cycle my RMC-1L every other day, and I STILL haven't ran Dirac because I just know it would make this unit even less stable. In the past 10 pages I see "the company" has evaded questions about improvements. Kind of like when I sent my DR3 in for check because it was dropping channels when playing loudly at full ramge, without any distortion. Simply told all is well and I'm overdrive it.. Regardless of any of what I've read the past few pages or my experiences. Does anyone know when to expect better functionality/stability with the G3 processors? My XMC-2 has been completely stable with the last firmware. I have not had to hard boot in a long time, sine release of that firmware. I’m using VRO. I’m also using Dirac, though I have not gone to the latest Dirac firmware. I would suggest posting more details on your system, settings, and what might be causing you to have to power cycle. Calling Emotiva support may also help.
|
|
|
Post by benbvan on Nov 29, 2020 19:45:09 GMT -5
Firmware update after 2.1?? I'm not sure where I left off on the discussion, and after reading the last 10 pages of this thread I'm still lost on what's next for the G3 processors as far as stability improvements and updated features. I continue to have to hard power cycle my RMC-1L every other day, and I STILL haven't ran Dirac because I just know it would make this unit even less stable. In the past 10 pages I see "the company" has evaded questions about improvements. Kind of like when I sent my DR3 in for check because it was dropping channels when playing loudly at full ramge, without any distortion. Simply told all is well and I'm overdrive it.. Regardless of any of what I've read the past few pages or my experiences. Does anyone know when to expect better functionality/stability with the G3 processors? My XMC-2 has been completely stable with the last firmware. I have not had to hard boot in a long time, sine release of that firmware. I’m using VRO. I’m also using Dirac, though I have not gone to the latest Dirac firmware. I would suggest posting more details on your system, settings, and what might be causing you to have to power cycle. Calling Emotiva support may also help. I use a Comcast X1 box and an Xbox on HDMI, and ARC. I have ARC issues after 1 or 2 power cycles. And when switching between analog and digital audio inputs from a Bluesound Node 2i it will play at a lower volume. Also I use lowest power mode for standby. No VRO. I would like to use VRO again..
|
|
cawgijoe
Emo VIPs
"We made too many of the wrong mistakes." - Yogi Berra
Posts: 4,914
|
Post by cawgijoe on Nov 29, 2020 22:22:06 GMT -5
My XMC-2 has been completely stable with the last firmware. I have not had to hard boot in a long time, sine release of that firmware. I’m using VRO. I’m also using Dirac, though I have not gone to the latest Dirac firmware. I would suggest posting more details on your system, settings, and what might be causing you to have to power cycle. Calling Emotiva support may also help. I use a Comcast X1 box and an Xbox on HDMI, and ARC. I have ARC issues after 1 or 2 power cycles. And when switching between analog and digital audio inputs from a Bluesound Node 2i it will play at a lower volume. Also I use lowest power mode for standby. No VRO. I would like to use VRO again.. I don’t use ARC. I do have a Bluesound Node 2 which is connected to the XMC-2 via the digital audio output. I have not noticed a lower volume, but to be fair, I have not paid much attention. I know that depending on the source volume can be different. I know that ARC and CEC can be problematic regardless of msnufacturer, hence I avoid it. Can you disable it to see if that makes any difference? Try VRO after you do that.
|
|
|
Post by benbvan on Nov 29, 2020 22:36:26 GMT -5
I use a Comcast X1 box and an Xbox on HDMI, and ARC. I have ARC issues after 1 or 2 power cycles. And when switching between analog and digital audio inputs from a Bluesound Node 2i it will play at a lower volume. Also I use lowest power mode for standby. No VRO. I would like to use VRO again.. I don’t use ARC. I do have a Bluesound Node 2 which is connected to the XMC-2 via the digital audio output. I have not noticed a lower volume, but to be fair, I have not paid much attention. I know that depending on the source volume can be different. I know that ARC and CEC can be problematic regardless of msnufacturer, hence I avoid it. Can you disable it to see if that makes any difference? Try VRO after you do that. No, I want ARC. I don't want to use another device to stream video and that would likely be another issue with the RMC-1L because they don't like multiple hdmi sources.. even though there are 8 inputs. I only notice the difference in volume when I was switching between digital and analog for the node, comparing DACs. Sometimes it switches and you get nothing, no sound.
|
|
|
Post by ttocs on Nov 29, 2020 23:23:17 GMT -5
I don’t use ARC. I do have a Bluesound Node 2 which is connected to the XMC-2 via the digital audio output. I have not noticed a lower volume, but to be fair, I have not paid much attention. I know that depending on the source volume can be different. I know that ARC and CEC can be problematic regardless of msnufacturer, hence I avoid it. Can you disable it to see if that makes any difference? Try VRO after you do that. No, I want ARC. I don't want to use another device to stream video and that would likely be another issue with the RMC-1L because they don't like multiple hdmi sources.. even though there are 8 inputs. I only notice the difference in volume when I was switching between digital and analog for the node, comparing DACs. Sometimes it switches and you get nothing, no sound. Sorry, but I have a different experience with using almost all of the HDMI inputs. TiVo EDGE OPPO 105 Sony X700 ATV4K Mac mini LG UP875 (disconnected a while back, but it worked fine) HDMI-7 is used for MacBook Pro when using REW All of these devices can be used without issue while processor is on. TiVo EDGE has some issues in VRO but only when using Dolby Audio (TiVo's aren't perfect either).
|
|
|
Post by benbvan on Nov 29, 2020 23:31:32 GMT -5
No, I want ARC. I don't want to use another device to stream video and that would likely be another issue with the RMC-1L because they don't like multiple hdmi sources.. even though there are 8 inputs. I only notice the difference in volume when I was switching between digital and analog for the node, comparing DACs. Sometimes it switches and you get nothing, no sound. Sorry, but I have a different experience with using almost all of the HDMI inputs. TiVo EDGE OPPO 105 Sony X700 ATV4K Mac mini LG UP875 (disconnected a while back, but it worked fine) HDMI-7 is used for MacBook Pro when using REW All of these devices can be used without issue while processor is on. TiVo EDGE has some issues in VRO but only when using Dolby Audio (TiVo's aren't perfect either). Good, I'm glad you have had a positive experience. I was even told personally by Emotiva staff that the G3 didn't like multiple inputs being used. Maybe that was fixed in the past couple updates. Have you heard anything about a new update coming soon?
|
|
|
Post by ttocs on Nov 29, 2020 23:48:47 GMT -5
Good, I'm glad you have had a positive experience. I was even told personally by Emotiva staff that the G3 didn't like multiple inputs being used. Maybe that was fixed in the past couple updates. Have you heard anything about a new update coming soon? Seems strange Emo would say that. I've never had problems with number of inputs filled. It's been a while since the last update, so I'd expect something soon.
|
|
|
Post by kanichkhun on Nov 30, 2020 1:00:04 GMT -5
yea, I think likewise as well, is funny the staff would say that the processor didn't like multiple inputs... then what are the inputs for. face palm.
|
|
|
Post by benbvan on Nov 30, 2020 3:28:12 GMT -5
yea, I think likewise as well, is funny the staff would say that the processor didn't like multiple inputs... then what are the inputs for. face palm. You can face palm all you like. I have had many conversations over the past couple years with Dan and Keith, as well as Lonnie and a couple others. I don't know how long some have owned these newer units, but it was a known issue in the past that the processors would act up with multiple HDMI inputs used. Obviously they designed the inputs to be used, the processors just didn't work well when doing so over the first year or so.
|
|
geebo
Emo VIPs
"Too bad that all the people who know how to run the country are driving taxicabs and cutting hair"
Posts: 24,204
|
Post by geebo on Nov 30, 2020 7:41:45 GMT -5
Multiple inputs have been working fine for me all along. And I personally know several people that have multiple inputs being used. Only one can be selected at any given time, though. I don't think we're getting all the information here.
|
|
cawgijoe
Emo VIPs
"We made too many of the wrong mistakes." - Yogi Berra
Posts: 4,914
|
Post by cawgijoe on Nov 30, 2020 9:53:54 GMT -5
I agree completely with Geebo. No problem with multiple HDMI inputs connected. Only one is active at a time. I guess I’m not really understanding the issue here.
I only mentioned disabling ARC to see if that stopped the problem with having to reboot all the time. To try and isolate.
|
|
|
Post by doc1963 on Nov 30, 2020 10:07:55 GMT -5
I'm also in agreement with geebo and cawgijoe ... I use 5 of the 8 HDMI inputs on my RMC-1L and they all switch as expected. Other than for being just a bit slower than my 8805, I've encountered no problems with any of the sources shown in my signature below. I have no need for ARC and now have it disabled, but I did test it when I received my RMC-1L and it also worked as expected. I might expect what was said if they were referring to using multiple HDMI " outputs". So I'm wondering if the conversation has been somehow misconstrued...
|
|
|
Post by benbvan on Nov 30, 2020 11:22:15 GMT -5
Guys, I simply said the processors don't like that. Not that it didn't work. This was based on information that I received a year ago. They must have fixed that issue. I am glad it is no longer a problem. But this is a classic case of taking things out of context. My main concern is instability and the next update. Everything works for me with a fresh hard boot, except the volu.e change between analog and digital inputs for my Node 2i. What stops working after a few normal on/off cycles is ARC, and it's disturbing. Not only doesn't ARC stop working, i can no longer change the volume with my TV remote because that is also passes thru the HDMI.
|
|