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Post by rbk123 on Mar 19, 2021 7:51:46 GMT -5
You're entitled to your opinion, but someone on the internet providing testing data seems like a weird thing to get up in arms about. Anyone else can provide their own data. This would be true if he only provided data, and even then it would depend on what data he provided. |
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Post by timmechengr on Mar 19, 2021 14:47:16 GMT -5
Audio Science Review while testing the XMC-1: Again with ASR....here we go......face palm! Ah, maybe you remember just like I do, hence the face palm! What Deleted might be completely unaware of is that this thread is actually Chapter 2. Chapter 1 (RMC-1/RMC-1L/XMC-2 Owners Thread (Pre Firmware v1.10) started right after the release of the RMC-1 in November, 2018. Buried somewhere in those 434 pages a flame war from Hades got started involving Audio Science Review. Needless to say the bickering and arguing started getting out of control, and most members here grew sick of it. One of the end results out of all that was many members now couldn't care less about ASR nor Amir's opinion. Every person's hearing is different; there are no two the same. Charts, graphs, and numbers have no bearing on it. Each person needs to listen and form their own opinion.
I don't mean any disrespect towards Deleted, nor am I trying to start an argument. I just wanted to bring up some past history here about this subject.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 15:18:06 GMT -5
Again with ASR....here we go......face palm! Ah, maybe you remember just like I do, hence the face palm! What Deleted might be completely unaware of is that this thread is actually Chapter 2. Chapter 1 (RMC-1/RMC-1L/XMC-2 Owners Thread (Pre Firmware v1.10) started right after the release of the RMC-1 in November, 2018. Buried somewhere in those 434 pages a flame war from Hades got started involving Audio Science Review. Needless to say the bickering and arguing started getting out of control, and most members here grew sick of it. One of the end results out of all that was many members now couldn't care less about ASR nor Amir's opinion. Every person's hearing is different; there are no two the same. Charts, graphs, and numbers have no bearing on it. Each person needs to listen and form their own opinion.
I don't mean any disrespect towards Deleted, nor am I trying to start an argument. I just wanted to bring up some past history here about this subject.
No disrespect taken as I wasn't aware of any historical arguments. As for the relativism in audio well I could probably respond w/ a book on that subject. |
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Post by PaulBe on Mar 19, 2021 16:19:01 GMT -5
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Post by chain on Mar 19, 2021 18:32:32 GMT -5
Hopefully this brings things back on topic....
DSD Playback - Here's some notes and questions from my experience with the RMC-1L (v2.1) and an Oppo BD-105D. Previously I had the XMC-1.
- The 'tick'. Instead of crazy distortion that I would hear on the XMC-1 (and others have reported this with certain FW versions of the new line), there's a 'tick' when switching to/from DSD format, or switching DSD audio tracks (stereo to 5.1) on SACDs. The noise does scale with volume, which is a bit concerning because it does occur at the end of playback of a SACD. It's not exactly confidence inspiring. LCSeminole also did some testing on firmware 2.2 and had the same noise using a Oppo UDP-203, my unit came with v2.1 and I'm a bit hesitant to update. Especially if the tick is still present. Interestingly, LCSeminole also tested with Oppo BDP-83 and 93 players, which did not exhibit the 'tick'. Thanks for testing that, I hope you don't mind me stating your findings here. I'm interested if others with non-Oppo players could comment on their experience with DSD playback.
-- I tried setting the HDMI input to 1.4 but the tick was still present. Did a hard reboot to make sure the setting took as well.
-- Also I have heard the same 'tick' just a few times when my cable box switches between DD 2.0 and 5.1. And some reviews I saw experience the same noise, outside of DSD playback, in past firmwares.
Is the 'tick' something a lot of users experience? If so is Emotiva aware of it and working on it or should I contact them directly regarding it? Did they already try to address this in previous firmware updates?
Second thing with DSD playback, subwoofer output. I can only get subwoofer output through the center sub channel. I originally set up my two subs as dual mono on the L/R outputs. All other formats worked fine, but when I played 5.1 DSD I had no subwoofer output. But when configured for a sub connected to the center output, it worked. The manual says it can duplicate channels in pure DSD mode, and lists 7.2 as an option. Does anyone else have experience with this? Is there a setting I'm missing to enable multiple subs with pure DSD playback?
Third, 'lockups'. I've had the system become basically unresponsive (takes 30 seconds for volume control change) when changing audio tracks. This has happened when switching DSD audio from 5.1 to stereo (lost audio completely, video was fine), and switching between audio tracks on a UHD Blu Ray (LG UHD player). This has happened 3 times in very limited testing. Requires a hard reboot to get everything back functioning again. It seems like this could be related to the 'pause' issue that they were aware of, but I'm wondering if anyone else is experiencing this.
Thanks in advance!
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Post by ttocs on Mar 19, 2021 18:55:35 GMT -5
Hopefully this brings things back on topic.... DSD Playback - Here's some notes and questions from my experience with the RMC-1L (v2.1) and an Oppo BD-105D. Previously I had the XMC-1. - The 'tick'. Instead of crazy distortion that I would hear on the XMC-1 (and others have reported this with certain FW versions of the new line), there's a 'tick' when switching to/from DSD format, or switching DSD audio tracks (stereo to 5.1) on SACDs. The noise does scale with volume, which is a bit concerning because it does occur at the end of playback of a SACD. It's not exactly confidence inspiring. LCSeminole also did some testing on firmware 2.2 and had the same noise using a Oppo UDP-203, my unit came with v2.1 and I'm a bit hesitant to update. Especially if the tick is still present. Interestingly, LCSeminole also tested with Oppo BDP-83 and 93 players, which did not exhibit the 'tick'. Thanks for testing that, I hope you don't mind me stating your findings here. I'm interested if others with non-Oppo players could comment on their experience with DSD playback.
-- I tried setting the HDMI input to 1.4 but the tick was still present. Did a hard reboot to make sure the setting took as well.
-- Also I have heard the same 'tick' just a few times when my cable box switches between DD 2.0 and 5.1. And some reviews I saw experience the same noise, outside of DSD playback, in past firmwares.
Is the 'tick' something a lot of users experience? If so is Emotiva aware of it and working on it or should I contact them directly regarding it? Did they already try to address this in previous firmware updates? Second thing with DSD playback, subwoofer output. I can only get subwoofer output through the center sub channel. I originally set up my two subs as dual mono on the L/R outputs. All other formats worked fine, but when I played 5.1 DSD I had no subwoofer output. But when configured for a sub connected to the center output, it worked. The manual says it can duplicate channels in pure DSD mode, and lists 7.2 as an option. Does anyone else have experience with this? Is there a setting I'm missing to enable multiple subs with pure DSD playback? Third, 'lockups'. I've had the system become basically unresponsive (takes 30 seconds for volume control change) when changing audio tracks. This has happened when switching DSD audio from 5.1 to stereo (lost audio completely, video was fine), and switching between audio tracks on a UHD Blu Ray (LG UHD player). This has happened 3 times in very limited testing. Requires a hard reboot to get everything back functioning again. It seems like this could be related to the 'pause' issue that they were aware of, but I'm wondering if anyone else is experiencing this. Thanks in advance! The tick is something Emo is always working on. It's much better now than a year ago. Lockups are not always "lockups". There is a known issue whereby when a source is "paused" or in a state that the processor considers to be the same as a pause, the processor functions get slowed down. It happens with my TiVo while paused, or when in the main menu of any of my disc players when selecting a different track to play, etc. Specifically, if I pause my Panasonic player for 18 minutes the processor has a chance of actually locking up such that no button will function and the power switch needs to be used to turn it off. This one is a high priority. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 12:40:39 GMT -5
In Philosophy and Presuppositional Apologetics and especially Theology this has been said until exhaustion for millenniums. Only recently are neuroscientist finding for themselves material evidence to support what has already been known since the ancients, "Whoever has ears, let them hear". Though neuroscientist have eyes to see for themselves through technology - I doubt anything will change even in them as the findings are the nature of the natural man. The findings extend further than simply "audio" but are the biggest inward obstacle facing mankind when coming to the truth - which isn't found in man-himself. |
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Post by marcl on Mar 20, 2021 15:54:26 GMT -5
That's a really interesting article. But doesn't say "we hear what we expect to hear". It says we predict what we might hear, and then encode the difference between that and what we actually hear. A clever way to save memory space  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 16:06:16 GMT -5
That's a really interesting article. But doesn't say "we hear what we expect to hear". It says we predict what we might hear, and then encode the difference between that and what we actually hear. A clever way to save memory space Doesn't it? Sounds more like mildly delusional persons detached from reality - in which there are varying degrees. "We predict what we might hear". If we hear correctly then why is there any difference or variance between that and what actually is? Sounds more like error correcting. And what is "encoding the differences"? Digging our heels in defense of who or what we think is correct rather than who or what is correct? That is, the tendency to prove our self-determination while rejecting everything or everyone else as extraneous impulses and influences. The article seemingly concludes that people w/ learning difficulties may benefit from this research. Got a chuckle out of the notion that a pill may clear up the know it all's hardheadedness, stubbornness, and rebelliousness - snake oil. Lastly, that article wasn't positive in my view. Positive from a scientific or technological perspective... |
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Post by marcl on Mar 20, 2021 19:55:54 GMT -5
That's a really interesting article. But doesn't say "we hear what we expect to hear". It says we predict what we might hear, and then encode the difference between that and what we actually hear. A clever way to save memory space Doesn't it? Sounds more like mildly delusional persons detached from reality - in which there are varying degrees. "We predict what we might hear". If we hear correctly then why is there any difference or variance between that and what actually is? Sounds more like error correcting. And what is "encoding the differences"? Digging our heels in defense of who or what we think is correct rather than who or what is correct? That is, the tendency to prove our self-determination while rejecting everything or everyone else as extraneous impulses and influences. The article seemingly concludes that people w/ learning difficulties may benefit from this research. Got a chuckle out of the notion that a pill may clear up the know it all's hardheadedness, stubbornness, and rebelliousness - snake oil. Lastly, that article wasn't positive in my view. Positive from a scientific or technological perspective... Well after all, when you come right down to it, aren't we just an infinite expanse of one-dimensional strings vibrating in ten-dimensional hyperspace? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 20:39:20 GMT -5
Doesn't it? Sounds more like mildly delusional persons detached from reality - in which there are varying degrees. "We predict what we might hear". If we hear correctly then why is there any difference or variance between that and what actually is? Sounds more like error correcting. And what is "encoding the differences"? Digging our heels in defense of who or what we think is correct rather than who or what is correct? That is, the tendency to prove our self-determination while rejecting everything or everyone else as extraneous impulses and influences. The article seemingly concludes that people w/ learning difficulties may benefit from this research. Got a chuckle out of the notion that a pill may clear up the know it all's hardheadedness, stubbornness, and rebelliousness - snake oil. Lastly, that article wasn't positive in my view. Positive from a scientific or technological perspective... Well after all, when you come right down to it, aren't we just an infinite expanse of one-dimensional strings vibrating in ten-dimensional hyperspace? |
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Post by PaulBe on Mar 21, 2021 7:17:02 GMT -5
That's a really interesting article. But doesn't say "we hear what we expect to hear". It says we predict what we might hear, and then encode the difference between that and what we actually hear. A clever way to save memory space After a reread, I still like the article title. It agrees with it's contents, and is the best way to use memory space. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2021 10:09:34 GMT -5
That's a really interesting article. But doesn't say "we hear what we expect to hear". It says we predict what we might hear, and then encode the difference between that and what we actually hear. A clever way to save memory space After a reread, I still like the article title. It agrees with it's contents, and is the best way to use memory space. And what sense or senses did you use to come to that conclusion? If only our minds worked as simplistically as computers. Computers think but they do not think like humans. If we as a computer store our perception in memory then encode only the sensory information to support our initial perception.... In other words whether or not we've made a false premise we might build upon that premise with our logic. That's why rational or irrational persons exists - or as the article states some have learning disorders. Simply searching for similarities rather than differences. If our minds only acted like a computer's memory and that's a big if considering how little neuroscience actually understands about our human memory such saves processing [actual thinking] by searching only for changes and then only if our introspective abilities were likened to a hex editor we could search our memory and identify our faulty perception and change the values allocated in memory according to sensory information. Wishful thinking. Lastly, I'm always entertained when someone states, doesn't or does "say". Some have a strict or wooden inflexible literal principle and method of interpretation when they read. Others use inference reasoning from various context surrounding what is actually said to understand what an author "meant" to convey. I liked your statement PaulBe shows you use inference. |
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Post by kanichkhun on Mar 22, 2021 9:12:00 GMT -5
hi guys, I'm back again after span of days testing it. is a little long, please bear with me.
I still want to say, my reference stereo is broken with DIRAC enabled.
to allow the others know what has happened before, keeping it short, I mentioned before my reference stereo was lifeless compressed sound.
2nd upload of dirac filter, the ref. stereo seemed to have improved in term of high frequency area but the veil is still on (a little muffled) and the bass is not extended.
I've clarified a few times, and keith said that reference stereo is unaltered and no any digital processing and so on, okay. I got it but my few tests proved otherwise. (I can't use REW and my surface pro only output mini dp which I don't have the cable/converter yet)
So, I started off with the same song again in Ref. Stereo, Madonna - Vogue (which has out of phase effect), the out of phase has became in-phase in fact, the vocal has steered to left speaker and sounded louder, I can still hear other sound from the right speaker other than the vocal. I walk to right speaker, I can hear vocal but when I move back to my listening spot, I don't hear it. Believe this is cancellation effect in play. which would make sense since the song supposed to have out of phase but became in-phase means something isn't right.
I switch to speaker preset 2 and user has no dirac, left and right set to Large speakers. Amazing, the correct sound is back again, the out of phase is playing correct, the phantom centre is dead in centre once again.
switching back to preset 1 with dirac, the terrible vocal sound on the left and incorrect phase presenting again. So, I remained in the same preset but change to user which has no dirac, the music played correctly.
I used my phone to record another song, Royals by Lorde which has decent bass and beats, ref. stereo with dirac and ref. stereo with non-dirac and sent it to a friend to listen. I asked him which one sounded better.
he picked the ref stereo with non-dirac. I told him he got it right. even playback from my phone could tell the 2 recording apart.
I did try out other modes, stereo and direct. the stereo did sound a little different which I supposed the dirac should be on effect but the vocal is still steered to the left side louder. likewise to direct mode.
testing animes which are stereo and a good test, the vocal is still on the left side and because anime has a lot of talking and it became so clear in this test.
switching to user (non-dirac) and the phantom centre returned back. I didn't realize this issue until I stop using surround mode which I upmix it.
I'm not blaming emotiva or dirac fault. I want to know how I can fix this odd issue, I don't think I come across someone has this odd issue like mine.
I went to also search dirac phase issues, it seems to be I'm not the only one.
fyi, my speaker phase is correct for goodness sake if someone is going to say my phase is wrong.
Again, I don't have REW so I did a SPL check and some surrounds are 4dB softer. I adjusted all the channels to my sound meter 70dB.
can anyone figure what's going on with this. I seriously can't use stereo, direct, ref. stereo at all unless I switch out.
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Post by brewmaster on Mar 22, 2021 9:51:15 GMT -5
Hopefully this brings things back on topic.... DSD Playback - Here's some notes and questions from my experience with the RMC-1L (v2.1) and an Oppo BD-105D. Previously I had the XMC-1. - The 'tick'. Instead of crazy distortion that I would hear on the XMC-1 (and others have reported this with certain FW versions of the new line), there's a 'tick' when switching to/from DSD format, or switching DSD audio tracks (stereo to 5.1) on SACDs. The noise does scale with volume, which is a bit concerning because it does occur at the end of playback of a SACD. It's not exactly confidence inspiring. LCSeminole also did some testing on firmware 2.2 and had the same noise using a Oppo UDP-203, my unit came with v2.1 and I'm a bit hesitant to update. Especially if the tick is still present. Interestingly, LCSeminole also tested with Oppo BDP-83 and 93 players, which did not exhibit the 'tick'. Thanks for testing that, I hope you don't mind me stating your findings here. I'm interested if others with non-Oppo players could comment on their experience with DSD playback.
-- I tried setting the HDMI input to 1.4 but the tick was still present. Did a hard reboot to make sure the setting took as well.
-- Also I have heard the same 'tick' just a few times when my cable box switches between DD 2.0 and 5.1. And some reviews I saw experience the same noise, outside of DSD playback, in past firmwares.
Is the 'tick' something a lot of users experience? If so is Emotiva aware of it and working on it or should I contact them directly regarding it? Did they already try to address this in previous firmware updates? Second thing with DSD playback, subwoofer output. I can only get subwoofer output through the center sub channel. I originally set up my two subs as dual mono on the L/R outputs. All other formats worked fine, but when I played 5.1 DSD I had no subwoofer output. But when configured for a sub connected to the center output, it worked. The manual says it can duplicate channels in pure DSD mode, and lists 7.2 as an option. Does anyone else have experience with this? Is there a setting I'm missing to enable multiple subs with pure DSD playback? Third, 'lockups'. I've had the system become basically unresponsive (takes 30 seconds for volume control change) when changing audio tracks. This has happened when switching DSD audio from 5.1 to stereo (lost audio completely, video was fine), and switching between audio tracks on a UHD Blu Ray (LG UHD player). This has happened 3 times in very limited testing. Requires a hard reboot to get everything back functioning again. It seems like this could be related to the 'pause' issue that they were aware of, but I'm wondering if anyone else is experiencing this. Thanks in advance! I notice the "tick" only with DSD on OppoBDP205 and XMC2. Prior to 2.2, I was always using the balanced out for SACD. I can make it "tick" in DSD mode by starting, stopping, or switching between 2Ch and multi channel tracks. |
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Post by foggy1956 on Mar 22, 2021 16:15:22 GMT -5
hi guys, I'm back again after span of days testing it. is a little long, please bear with me. I still want to say, my reference stereo is broken with DIRAC enabled. to allow the others know what has happened before, keeping it short, I mentioned before my reference stereo was lifeless compressed sound. 2nd upload of dirac filter, the ref. stereo seemed to have improved in term of high frequency area but the veil is still on (a little muffled) and the bass is not extended. I've clarified a few times, and keith said that reference stereo is unaltered and no any digital processing and so on, okay. I got it but my few tests proved otherwise. (I can't use REW and my surface pro only output mini dp which I don't have the cable/converter yet) So, I started off with the same song again in Ref. Stereo, Madonna - Vogue (which has out of phase effect), the out of phase has became in-phase in fact, the vocal has steered to left speaker and sounded louder, I can still hear other sound from the right speaker other than the vocal. I walk to right speaker, I can hear vocal but when I move back to my listening spot, I don't hear it. Believe this is cancellation effect in play. which would make sense since the song supposed to have out of phase but became in-phase means something isn't right. I switch to speaker preset 2 and user has no dirac, left and right set to Large speakers. Amazing, the correct sound is back again, the out of phase is playing correct, the phantom centre is dead in centre once again. switching back to preset 1 with dirac, the terrible vocal sound on the left and incorrect phase presenting again. So, I remained in the same preset but change to user which has no dirac, the music played correctly. I used my phone to record another song by Royals by Lorde which has decent bass and beats, ref. stereo with dirac and ref. stereo with non-dirac and sent it to a friend to listen. I asked him which one sounded better. he picked the ref stereo with non-dirac. I told him he got it right. even playback from my phone could tell the 2 recording apart. I did try out other modes, stereo and direct. the stereo did sound a little different which I supposed the dirac should be on effect but the vocal is still steered to the left side louder. likewise to direct mode. testing animes which are stereo and a good test, the vocal is still on the left side and because anime has a lot of talking and it became so clear in this test. switching to user (non-dirac) and the phantom centre returned back. I didn't realize this issue until I stop using surround mode which I upmix it. I'm not blaming emotiva or dirac fault. I want to know how I can fix this odd issue, I don't think I come across someone has this odd issue like mine. I went to also search dirac phase issues, it seems to be I'm not the only one. fyi, my speaker phase is correct for goodness sake if someone is going to say my phase is wrong. Again, I don't have REW so I did a SPL check and some surrounds are 4dB softer. I adjusted all the channels to my sound meter 70dB. can anyone figure what's going on with this. I seriously can't use stereo, direct, ref. stereo at all unless I switch out. Curious, with your Dirac presets engaged, go into the input set up menu and toggle the reference stereo setting, back out of the menu and see if it makes a difference? Sure does on mine, which makes me believe something is aff cting it in reference stereo. |
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Post by junchoon on Mar 22, 2021 21:19:23 GMT -5
Are you saying DSD playback issue still exist in XMC-1 and the newer processors still have the same problem? Only limited to Oppo or all DSD playback? Hopefully this brings things back on topic.... DSD Playback - Here's some notes and questions from my experience with the RMC-1L (v2.1) and an Oppo BD-105D. Previously I had the XMC-1. - The 'tick'. Instead of crazy distortion that I would hear on the XMC-1 (and others have reported this with certain FW versions of the new line), there's a 'tick' when switching to/from DSD format, or switching DSD audio tracks (stereo to 5.1) on SACDs. The noise does scale with volume, which is a bit concerning because it does occur at the end of playback of a SACD. It's not exactly confidence inspiring. LCSeminole also did some testing on firmware 2.2 and had the same noise using a Oppo UDP-203, my unit came with v2.1 and I'm a bit hesitant to update. Especially if the tick is still present. Interestingly, LCSeminole also tested with Oppo BDP-83 and 93 players, which did not exhibit the 'tick'. Thanks for testing that, I hope you don't mind me stating your findings here. I'm interested if others with non-Oppo players could comment on their experience with DSD playback.
-- I tried setting the HDMI input to 1.4 but the tick was still present. Did a hard reboot to make sure the setting took as well.
-- Also I have heard the same 'tick' just a few times when my cable box switches between DD 2.0 and 5.1. And some reviews I saw experience the same noise, outside of DSD playback, in past firmwares.
Is the 'tick' something a lot of users experience? If so is Emotiva aware of it and working on it or should I contact them directly regarding it? Did they already try to address this in previous firmware updates? Second thing with DSD playback, subwoofer output. I can only get subwoofer output through the center sub channel. I originally set up my two subs as dual mono on the L/R outputs. All other formats worked fine, but when I played 5.1 DSD I had no subwoofer output. But when configured for a sub connected to the center output, it worked. The manual says it can duplicate channels in pure DSD mode, and lists 7.2 as an option. Does anyone else have experience with this? Is there a setting I'm missing to enable multiple subs with pure DSD playback? Third, 'lockups'. I've had the system become basically unresponsive (takes 30 seconds for volume control change) when changing audio tracks. This has happened when switching DSD audio from 5.1 to stereo (lost audio completely, video was fine), and switching between audio tracks on a UHD Blu Ray (LG UHD player). This has happened 3 times in very limited testing. Requires a hard reboot to get everything back functioning again. It seems like this could be related to the 'pause' issue that they were aware of, but I'm wondering if anyone else is experiencing this. Thanks in advance! I notice the "tick" only with DSD on OppoBDP205 and XMC2. Prior to 2.2, I was always using the balanced out for SACD. I can make it "tick" in DSD mode by starting, stopping, or switching between 2Ch and multi channel tracks. |
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Post by kanichkhun on Mar 23, 2021 11:14:44 GMT -5
hi guys, I'm back again after span of days testing it. is a little long, please bear with me. I still want to say, my reference stereo is broken with DIRAC enabled. to allow the others know what has happened before, keeping it short, I mentioned before my reference stereo was lifeless compressed sound. 2nd upload of dirac filter, the ref. stereo seemed to have improved in term of high frequency area but the veil is still on (a little muffled) and the bass is not extended. I've clarified a few times, and keith said that reference stereo is unaltered and no any digital processing and so on, okay. I got it but my few tests proved otherwise. (I can't use REW and my surface pro only output mini dp which I don't have the cable/converter yet) So, I started off with the same song again in Ref. Stereo, Madonna - Vogue (which has out of phase effect), the out of phase has became in-phase in fact, the vocal has steered to left speaker and sounded louder, I can still hear other sound from the right speaker other than the vocal. I walk to right speaker, I can hear vocal but when I move back to my listening spot, I don't hear it. Believe this is cancellation effect in play. which would make sense since the song supposed to have out of phase but became in-phase means something isn't right. I switch to speaker preset 2 and user has no dirac, left and right set to Large speakers. Amazing, the correct sound is back again, the out of phase is playing correct, the phantom centre is dead in centre once again. switching back to preset 1 with dirac, the terrible vocal sound on the left and incorrect phase presenting again. So, I remained in the same preset but change to user which has no dirac, the music played correctly. I used my phone to record another song by Royals by Lorde which has decent bass and beats, ref. stereo with dirac and ref. stereo with non-dirac and sent it to a friend to listen. I asked him which one sounded better. he picked the ref stereo with non-dirac. I told him he got it right. even playback from my phone could tell the 2 recording apart. I did try out other modes, stereo and direct. the stereo did sound a little different which I supposed the dirac should be on effect but the vocal is still steered to the left side louder. likewise to direct mode. testing animes which are stereo and a good test, the vocal is still on the left side and because anime has a lot of talking and it became so clear in this test. switching to user (non-dirac) and the phantom centre returned back. I didn't realize this issue until I stop using surround mode which I upmix it. I'm not blaming emotiva or dirac fault. I want to know how I can fix this odd issue, I don't think I come across someone has this odd issue like mine. I went to also search dirac phase issues, it seems to be I'm not the only one. fyi, my speaker phase is correct for goodness sake if someone is going to say my phase is wrong. Again, I don't have REW so I did a SPL check and some surrounds are 4dB softer. I adjusted all the channels to my sound meter 70dB. can anyone figure what's going on with this. I seriously can't use stereo, direct, ref. stereo at all unless I switch out. Curious, with your Dirac presets engaged, go into the input set up menu and toggle the reference stereo setting, back out of the menu and see if it makes a difference? Sure does on mine, which makes me believe something is aff cting it in reference stereo. @foggy, thanks for getting back. I tried. it didn't work. in fact I just played my auro3d 3d music in dtshd core, the fronts are so messed up and hollow.. there are cancellation going on.. |
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Post by rovinggecko on Mar 23, 2021 15:08:57 GMT -5
When switching between 16 and 24 bit streams i get loud pops.
Any tips/fixes?
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Post by hanse1 on Mar 26, 2021 9:43:29 GMT -5
Hey!
I'm having problems with my XMC-2. Suddenly when I started the XMC-2 a noise was heard in all speakers and the display went out. Thanks to the XMC display appearing on my TV, I managed to do a factory reset and also reinstall the 2.2 software but without results.
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