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Post by jbrunwa on Oct 3, 2021 18:00:10 GMT -5
Emotiva is no different in that most modern AVRs are computers, although they may be different in using an ARM Linux-based platform. I have often wondered if the CPU is just not fast or powerful enough on this platform. But I will add that tech support for the JBL SDP-75 recommended to reboot their AVR daily for best reliability. In any event, I have to think It should be possible either to eliminate the source of the snap, or if not, to mute the audio for a fraction of a second when audio modes change, and that this would be less objectionable to most customers. Hopefully the developers can fix the issues. By no means did I suggest that continued work cease on the development of the FW. If I came across that way I apologize. A reboot has just been a method to kind of reset the computer. These ticks, pops and snaps need to go away and I urge Emotiva to continue their work on the processors. No worries, I didn’t read anything into your comments as anything other than attempts at workarounds, and didn’t mean to imply otherwise myself. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 3, 2021 18:02:31 GMT -5
… This stuff is getting more like rocket science every year, not simpler but far more complex. While the technology is more complex, I don’t necessarily think the average user needs to know more to operate and enjoy their systems. Certainly if you’re going to setup a 16 channel system on your own, you need a lot of understanding, though again for the install, mostly just more of what we’ve been doing for years. Most systems have all the default / auto settings where most people would want them, so again not much you have to know. What you read about here is a different matter, there are generally two camps (that may overlap), those who are here because this is a hobby and they enjoy talking about it and helping people learn and do more, and those who are having problems and are looking to solve them. So in the perfect world, the average user never hears about or learns this stuff, everything just works. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 3, 2021 18:09:44 GMT -5
… But I will add that tech support for the JBL SDP-75 recommended to reboot their AVR daily for best reliability… Which is really no different than those of us who recommend using LPS, which does a full boot each time you use your processor (and consumes less power). |
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Post by cwt on Oct 3, 2021 18:57:29 GMT -5
Likewise I am only on a 5 point system, in my case 5.5. Not sure what is meant by a MAT container but apparently from your comment above there are some incorrect displays shown vs what one actually is hearing in terms of the audio coming from the RMC-1. Is this due to the complexity of home theater and all if its iterations and various codecs or is the an anomaly of the RMC/XMC series pre-pros? This has probably been discussed ad nauseam in the past but the thought of digesting hundreds if not thousands of post to decipher it all is a daunting task. Thanks This reminds me of a much earlier issue with lpcm playback . If anyone has an old hddvd player that decodes dd+ to 5.1 lpcm like a xe1 or cheaper model ;it would be interesting to see if its to do with the mat decoder or not .. Needless to say I reckon Emo doesnt have a hddvd player for testing ? hope they do.. |
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Post by jbrunwa on Oct 3, 2021 19:03:52 GMT -5
… But I will add that tech support for the JBL SDP-75 recommended to reboot their AVR daily for best reliability… Which is really no different than those of us who recommend using LPS, which does a full boot each time you use your processor (and consumes less power). Sorry I mis-quoted them. They recommend power cycling, not rebooting, The actual statement was “We recommend that the unit is power cycled once daily if used in an application that requires it to be on 24/7.” The implication that I take away is that their AVRs should be powered off when not in use, since the average home does not require 24/7 operation. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 3, 2021 19:21:31 GMT -5
Which is really no different than those of us who recommend using LPS, which does a full boot each time you use your processor (and consumes less power). Sorry I mis-quoted them. They recommend power cycling, not rebooting, The actual statement was “We recommend that the unit is power cycled once daily if used in an application that requires it to be on 24/7.” The implication that I take away is that their AVRs should be powered off when not in use, since the average home does not require 24/7 operation. That is pretty drastic, and shows these processors are difficult beasts. I still recommend LPS and think it generally has fewer problems, but I also know that since the default is VOS and most like the quick startup time, that LPS users are probably in the minority. |
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Post by jbrunwa on Oct 3, 2021 19:31:51 GMT -5
Sorry I mis-quoted them. They recommend power cycling, not rebooting, The actual statement was “We recommend that the unit is power cycled once daily if used in an application that requires it to be on 24/7.” The implication that I take away is that their AVRs should be powered off when not in use, since the average home does not require 24/7 operation. That is pretty drastic, and shows these processors are difficult beasts. I still recommend LPS and think it generally has fewer problems, but I also know that since the default is VOS and most like the quick startup time, that LPS users are probably in the minority. Well their platform is even more PC (Personal Computer  than Emotiva so there’s that  |
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Post by richb on Oct 3, 2021 20:34:59 GMT -5
I have encountered PCM 5.1 for ATV4K streamed content. It is true, that DD 5.1 send in a MAT container is often displayed as TrueHD (though it is not) on the RMC-1. It may display Atmos, but since I have a 5.2 system, I never see that. - Rich Likewise I am only on a 5 point system, in my case 5.5. Not sure what is meant by a MAT container but apparently from your comment above there are some incorrect displays shown vs what one actually is hearing in terms of the audio coming from the RMC-1. Is this due to the complexity of home theater and all if its iterations and various codecs or is the an anomaly of the RMC/XMC series pre-pros? This has probably been discussed ad nauseam in the past but the thought of digesting hundreds if not thousands of post to decipher it all is a daunting task. Thanks Here is a pretty good description of the latest Apple TV hardware and some MAT. freetime.mikeconnelly.com/archives/10707- Rich |
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Post by Topend on Oct 4, 2021 2:32:26 GMT -5
I’m hoping for an update too. The snaps and pops are noticed by the whole family. Dave. I've been on 2.2 since it came out and haven't switched to 2.3 because it's been working really well for me. Just yesterday for the 1st time i started to get a lot of snaps and pops, so i installed 2.3 and the noises were gone. I noticed right away that my bass was lowered a few db's, so i reinstalled 2.2 and my bass is back to normal and no snaps or pops. Maybe you can try to uninstall and reinstall your firmware, and hopefully the noises you are experiencing will go away. I will reload the FW and report back. Dave. |
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Post by Topend on Oct 4, 2021 2:38:06 GMT -5
I would like to get some focus back on HRD10+. I mentioned some time ago the the XMC-2 doesn’t support HDR10+. Keith read my originals posts so I’m hoping that a future FW will add this function.
Dave.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 4, 2021 4:21:29 GMT -5
I would like to get some focus back on HRD10+. I mentioned some time ago the the XMC-2 doesn’t support HDR10+. Keith read my originals posts so I’m hoping that a future FW will add this function. Dave. Or maybe the HDMI 2.1 board (if it requires a hardware change). |
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Post by bitzerjdb on Oct 4, 2021 8:00:16 GMT -5
Likewise I am only on a 5 point system, in my case 5.5. Not sure what is meant by a MAT container but apparently from your comment above there are some incorrect displays shown vs what one actually is hearing in terms of the audio coming from the RMC-1. Is this due to the complexity of home theater and all if its iterations and various codecs or is the an anomaly of the RMC/XMC series pre-pros? This has probably been discussed ad nauseam in the past but the thought of digesting hundreds if not thousands of post to decipher it all is a daunting task. Thanks Here is a pretty good description of the latest Apple TV hardware and some MAT. freetime.mikeconnelly.com/archives/10707- Rich Great Article, Thanks! But, it is still confusing (at least to me) From the Article... Dolby Audio Currently, Apple TV supports either Dolby MAT 2.0 (eight or 7.1 channels of lossless audio including Dolby Atmos objects) or Dolby Digital (six or 5.1 channels of lossy audio) formats. If an audio stream originates in another format, it must be transcoded via software to one of these two formats. Additionally, each application developer must separately license desired audio codecs, passing that cost on to consumers. This would make you believe that the data stream from the Box is either Dolby MAT or Dolby Digital. Why do we see PCM 5.1 on the Processor (RMC-1L in my case) Again, as I said previously, Dolby MAT works fine and the sound is what I expect... It's the PCM 5.1 decoded via "Surround" that is problematic. Is this an issue of the data being sent, or something in the decoding. I ask, because the PCM 5.1 via the Soundbar (Sonos ARC) sounds perfectly fine. Using DTS:Neural:X as the Decoder "fixes" the problem (at least for me), but I'm interested in what the "Problem" really is. Again, Thanks for the Link!!! |
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Post by flo26 on Oct 4, 2021 8:06:53 GMT -5
Hello everyone
I have a big problem with my RMC-1L: when I put it into use today, there is no sound coming out of my speakers; he has become dumb!
I checked my CD player and amp: they both work normally.
I tried several HDMI inputs: still no sound!
it does receive input signals (noted on the display)
everything works normally except the sound output!
would anyone among you have an idea to help me out please .
Tank you.
FYI, I live in France.
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Post by Thunderduck on Oct 4, 2021 8:17:59 GMT -5
Did the Mute button accidently get pushed? Or, was the RMC-1L in Video Remains On mode or was it in Lowest Power mode? Might also try to power down and push the Power button on the back of the unit and unplug for several minutes.
Hope you get it figured out.
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Post by flo26 on Oct 4, 2021 8:18:32 GMT -5
other information: it is not on "mute"
even with "tuner" selected, there is no sound
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Post by Thunderduck on Oct 4, 2021 8:20:01 GMT -5
other information: it is not on "mute" even with "tuner" selected, there is no sound I am afraid someone with much more knowledge than I will need to help you. EDIT: Try powering all the way down, wait a few minutes, then restart and see if that does anything. |
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Post by bitzerjdb on Oct 4, 2021 8:22:01 GMT -5
other information: it is not on "mute" even with "tuner" selected, there is no sound Unfortunately I get this rather frequently. The only way for me to solve it is to Power Off (Back switch, or hold the front power button) and Power back on. |
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Post by flo26 on Oct 4, 2021 8:31:39 GMT -5
I carried out a "factory reset": no change!
it is not in Lowest Power mode.
I turn it off every day with the rear button.
Does anyone have any other ideas please
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Post by adam631 on Oct 4, 2021 8:34:59 GMT -5
I carried out a "factory reset": no change! it is not in Lowest Power mode. I turn it off every day with the rear button. Does anyone have any other ideas please Try to uninstall and reinstall the firmware |
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Post by ttocs on Oct 4, 2021 8:38:26 GMT -5
Hello everyone I have a big problem with my RMC-1L: when I put it into use today, there is no sound coming out of my speakers; he has become dumb! I checked my CD player and amp: they both work normally. I tried several HDMI inputs: still no sound! it does receive input signals (noted on the display) everything works normally except the sound output! would anyone among you have an idea to help me out please . Tank you. FYI, I live in France. Need more info please. Let's begin with the basics. Are you using ARC or CEC? Your CD player is connected via HDMI to the RMC-1L, correct? If not, please connect it this way. Disconnect the TV, and any other device that might be connected to the RMC-1L so only the CD player is connected. The RMC-1L is then connected to the amp via XLR cable? Or is there an adapter to the amp for RCA connection? When the CD player is playing, what does the RMC-1L Front Panel Display show for incoming Audio? (bottom info line) What does the RMC-1L Front Panel Display show for output Audio? (top info line) Try changing the Audio Mode to something like Reference Stereo so only two speaker channels are used. This can be done using the Remote Control, look for the Mode Up/Down buttons along left edge below the number buttons. |
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than Emotiva so there’s that
