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Post by cawgijoe on Oct 26, 2021 11:40:32 GMT -5
I hadn’t noticed before, but your signature says you’re still on FW1.10. Have you tried any of the newer FWs to see if the Blue Screen issue is reduced or remedied? It was mentioned blue screen might be a projector thing, are you using one? I’ve truly never seen it. I have no knowledge about the blue screen issue, but I generally will not apply an update unless the release notes specify that an issue I experience is fixed or there is a new feature that I want. Release notes that say they fixed miscellaneous issues without specifics are not helpful. I have personally been burnt so many times applying updates only to find that the updates introduced new problems. I would give it a go....hey, but I'm a daredevil! |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 26, 2021 15:18:04 GMT -5
I hadn’t noticed before, but your signature says you’re still on FW1.10. Have you tried any of the newer FWs to see if the Blue Screen issue is reduced or remedied? It was mentioned blue screen might be a projector thing, are you using one? I’ve truly never seen it. I have no knowledge about the blue screen issue, but I generally will not apply an update unless the release notes specify that an issue I experience is fixed or there is a new feature that I want. Release notes that say they fixed miscellaneous issues without specifics are not helpful. I have personally been burnt so many times applying updates only to find that the updates introduced new problems. I understand, but it's a long way from 1.10 to 2.30, and I doubt the release notes are going to say "Fewer Blue Screens", hence my question. |
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Post by jbrunwa on Oct 26, 2021 16:25:42 GMT -5
I have no knowledge about the blue screen issue, but I generally will not apply an update unless the release notes specify that an issue I experience is fixed or there is a new feature that I want. Release notes that say they fixed miscellaneous issues without specifics are not helpful. I have personally been burnt so many times applying updates only to find that the updates introduced new problems. I understand, but it's a long way from 1.10 to 2.30, and I doubt the release notes are going to say "Fewer Blue Screens", hence my question. That’s a fair point. |
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Post by cwt on Oct 27, 2021 0:51:11 GMT -5
I have no knowledge about the blue screen issue, but I generally will not apply an update unless the release notes specify that an issue I experience is fixed or there is a new feature that I want. Release notes that say they fixed miscellaneous issues without specifics are not helpful. I have personally been burnt so many times applying updates only to find that the updates introduced new problems. I understand, but it's a long way from 1.10 to 2.30, and I doubt the release notes are going to say "Fewer Blue Screens", hence my question. Blue screens happen when edids are a bit slow to communicate [my jvc now and then] but lock on times is something Emo has been working on with second attempts rec ently so worth a punt certainly to upgrade with so many iterations including code rewrites Emo recommends to use Daredevil has pinched Captain Americas vibranium shield   |
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Post by lancejackson on Oct 27, 2021 17:26:58 GMT -5
This seems like it should be fairly straightforward, but I cannot seem to find an Auto Power off or Auto Standby option anywhere in the settings of the RMC-1L.
Am I blind or is there no such option on this model?
Thanks in advance,
Lance
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Post by doc1963 on Oct 27, 2021 19:23:39 GMT -5
This seems like it should be fairly straightforward, but I cannot seem to find an Auto Power off or Auto Standby option anywhere in the settings of the RMC-1L. Am I blind or is there no such option on this model? Thanks in advance, Lance There’s a power control in the CEC options that the unit will respond to via a CEC command. But other than that, there is no “auto” power feature. |
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Post by bblv on Oct 27, 2021 23:57:58 GMT -5
I dream of the day that I can turn on my RMC-1 and not randomly see a blue screen. I hadn’t noticed before, but your signature says you’re still on FW1.10. Have you tried any of the newer FWs to see if the Blue Screen issue is reduced or remedied? It was mentioned blue screen might be a projector thing, are you using one? I’ve truly never seen it. I'm on 2.3 and can't see signatures on mobile.. I'll update it. Yes, I'm using a JVC projector and get the "blue screen of death" when turning the system on about 50% of the time. Oddly, I'll sometimes go 10+ startups with no issues, then randomly get a couple blue screen startups in a row... HDMI signal lock issues continue to plague my RMC-1. Switching inputs fixes the problem 99% of the time. Other than that it has been pretty solid on 2.3. |
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Post by The Praetorian on Oct 28, 2021 23:24:11 GMT -5
I hadn’t noticed before, but your signature says you’re still on FW1.10. Have you tried any of the newer FWs to see if the Blue Screen issue is reduced or remedied? It was mentioned blue screen might be a projector thing, are you using one? I’ve truly never seen it. I'm on 2.3 and can't see signatures on mobile.. I'll update it. Yes, I'm using a JVC projector and get the "blue screen of death" when turning the system on about 50% of the time. Oddly, I'll sometimes go 10+ startups with no issues, then randomly get a couple blue screen startups in a row... HDMI signal lock issues continue to plague my RMC-1. Switching inputs fixes the problem 99% of the time. Other than that it has been pretty solid on 2.3. I’m also using a JVC projector and for me that happens 100% of the time. Cycling through the inputs is needed to get a signal every time no mattter in which order i turn on the devices. |
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Post by jbrunwa on Oct 29, 2021 12:15:43 GMT -5
I understand, but it's a long way from 1.10 to 2.30, and I doubt the release notes are going to say "Fewer Blue Screens", hence my question. Blue screens happen when edids are a bit slow to communicate [my jvc now and then] but lock on times is something Emo has been working on with second attempts rec ently so worth a punt certainly to upgrade with so many iterations including code rewrites Emo recommends to use Daredevil has pinched Captain Americas vibranium shield FWIW, here is how a competitor (Arcam) handles bugs: 1. User reports bug with a procedure to reproduce 2. Tech support investigates, when bug is confirmed it is assigned a number, and the number is communicated to the user 2a. Users report the confirmed bug to an AVSForum, where a running list of bugs is maintained to reduce duplicated effort 3. When new firmware is released, every bug number with summary description that has been fixed is reported in the release notes. 3a. Users confirm bugs fixed or not to the AVSForum To me it seems not unreasonable to expect this for our gear. |
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Post by badfusion on Oct 29, 2021 15:26:01 GMT -5
Blue screens happen when edids are a bit slow to communicate [my jvc now and then] but lock on times is something Emo has been working on with second attempts rec ently so worth a punt certainly to upgrade with so many iterations including code rewrites Emo recommends to use Daredevil has pinched Captain Americas vibranium shield FWIW, here is how a competitor (Arcam) handles bugs: 1. User reports bug with a procedure to reproduce 2. Tech support investigates, when bug is confirmed it is assigned a number, and the number is communicated to the user 2a. Users report the confirmed bug to an AVSForum, where a running list of bugs is maintained to reduce duplicated effort 3. When new firmware is released, every bug number with summary description that has been fixed is reported in the release notes. 3a. Users confirm bugs fixed or not to the AVSForum To me it seems not unreasonable to expect this for our gear. it is above all a shame that it is the users who do the manufacturer's job by reporting all the bugs and doing the beta testers. especially on a forum dedicated to the passion of the user and not on the manufacturer's site. i work with all brands including jbl arcam and others and the monitoring of harman group including jbl arcam is a real shame. |
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Post by hsamwel on Oct 30, 2021 4:10:32 GMT -5
I dream of the day that I can turn on my RMC-1 and not randomly see a blue screen. I hadn’t noticed before, but your signature says you’re still on FW1.10. Have you tried any of the newer FWs to see if the Blue Screen issue is reduced or remedied? It was mentioned blue screen might be a projector thing, are you using one? I’ve truly never seen it. You’ll mostly get a blue screen from a projector if the HDMI sync totally fails and it doesn’t get any communication at all. Probably get the same if you start the projector without starting any device connected to it. On my Panasonic the blue screen is default, however I can change it to black if I want to. I would guess Emotiva misses the sync to JVC sometimes due to it being so slow to sync. Maybe Emotiva could add an option for extra long sync time for devices like JVC which are slower? This would be better than slowing it down for all of us.. |
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Post by cwt on Oct 30, 2021 22:42:30 GMT -5
FWIW, here is how a competitor (Arcam) handles bugs: 1. User reports bug with a procedure to reproduce 2. Tech support investigates, when bug is confirmed it is assigned a number, and the number is communicated to the user 2a. Users report the confirmed bug to an AVSForum, where a running list of bugs is maintained to reduce duplicated effort 3. When new firmware is released, every bug number with summary description that has been fixed is reported in the release notes. 3a. Users confirm bugs fixed or not to the AVSForum To me it seems not unreasonable to expect this for our gear. Totally understand. Ime just a blow in to see if the rmc line has eradicated most bugs [ closer than last year lol] and /or the new low price mc700 replacement has turned up primarily jbrunwa . Morbid curiosity some may say  I long ago lost interest in the efforts of Arcam to give solid early firmwares to all the other 16ch oem pre pros they were writing code for as I had at the time [from a Emo forum member] a Yamaha suggestion ; which was solid and subsequently an Acurus muse . Arcam had left their previous gen pre pros and avrs in the lurch i read with bugs so they needed some help apparently ; badfusion has nailed it imho |
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Post by DellaDog on Oct 31, 2021 7:33:50 GMT -5
Anyone else get static, crackling, popping background noise when using Zone 2? It comes on slowly but surely. If I switch to another input and back, the noise temporarily goes away but eventually comes back. I spoke to support and they say others have mentioned it and a future firmware *may* fix it, but I may need to send it back for repair. (royal PIA cause its buried deep in the cabinet.)
My hope is others share this issue and it’s firmware related.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 31, 2021 9:32:18 GMT -5
Anyone else get static, crackling, popping background noise when using Zone 2? It comes on slowly but surely. If I switch to another input and back, the noise temporarily goes away but eventually comes back. I spoke to support and they say others have mentioned it and a future firmware *may* fix it, but I may need to send it back for repair. (royal PIA cause its buried deep in the cabinet.) My hope is others share this issue and it’s firmware related. I’ve read others report this and tested after reading the post (with FW 2.3). I’m unable to reproduce the problem using my Mac mini via USB, or TV on HDMI. I also tested both the ‘Follow Main’ and specific USB input selection for Zone 2 (in the past there was definitely a Z2 problem when using ‘Follow Main”). So it does seem to be a real issue, but there must be something specific that triggers it, or as your post implies, it could be a hardware problem. What specific sources and inputs are you using, and how are you selecting them for Zone 2? |
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Post by DellaDog on Oct 31, 2021 14:22:22 GMT -5
I primarily have the Tuner selected for zone 2 and it’s obvious after several minutes of playing. If I switch the input to any other input and immediately switch back, it’s gone. But only temporarily. It returns after a few minutes. Happens with a digital input as well, airport express feeding optical or RCA.
Frustrating if it’s hardware related.
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Post by pianoprodigy on Nov 2, 2021 10:57:46 GMT -5
I am coming from an XMC-1 and a BenQ 1080p projector. I just ordered a JVC NZ7 for my new theater build. Trying to figure out what processor to use. I had originally planned on doing an XMC-2 using the trade in program. I chatted with Emotiva yesterday and asked when HDMI 2.1 would be available and was told:
Hello!
We anticipate having the HDMI 2.1B in production by spring 2022!
Thanks!
I was really hoping to setup the theater gear one time and be done with it. Not really keen on the idea of removing the processor after only a few months to upgrade the board. That said, I'm not sure how critical it actually is to have HDMI 2.1 with my projector given the lack of content. Can anyone give an opinion on that? An NZ7 review says this: "The step-down NZ7 applies JVC's previous two-phase/120 Hz e-shift to enhance 4K or 8K signals beyond native 4K resolution. This feature, minus the compatibility with 8K signals, was previously reserved for JVC's top-of-the-line DLA-NX9." Will the current HDMI board limit me in any way? In browsing this thread, it seems many of you have issued with your JVC projectors with your Emotiva processors. Is this likely to be the case for the new NZ series?
Everyone has a budget, but mine is pretty flexible. I am interested in other options from other manufacturers, even if the cost is higher. I have a two-row theater with at least two subs. I was planning to add at least a third if not a fourth. So, having more than 2 sub outputs without compromising the number of other channels was a wish, but I'm not sure I'm going to get it. Clearly, sound quality is a priority to me as well
The theater won't be ready for electronics until January at the earliest, so I do have some time to wait to order; however, I do need to make decisions about speaker placement soon during the construction. For instance, it seems like the XMC-2/RMC-1 both will require me to give up 2 Atmos channels if I want to have more than 1 sub, so if I am going to go Emotiva, I'm going to have to compromise somewhat the Atmos ceiling speaker placement especially having 2 rows. I also was thinking I would do 2 sets of side surrounds speakers, one for each row. Not sure if any processor allows for that while still maintaining time alignment and all that.
Thanks for any input.
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Post by ElectricKoolAid on Nov 2, 2021 12:12:15 GMT -5
I am coming from an XMC-1 and a BenQ 1080p projector. I just ordered a JVC NZ7 for my new theater build. Trying to figure out what processor to use. I had originally planned on doing an XMC-2 using the trade in program. I chatted with Emotiva yesterday and asked when HDMI 2.1 would be available and was told: Hello! We anticipate having the HDMI 2.1B in production by spring 2022! Thanks! I was really hoping to setup the theater gear one time and be done with it. Not really keen on the idea of removing the processor after only a few months to upgrade the board. That said, I'm not sure how critical it actually is to have HDMI 2.1 with my projector given the lack of content. Can anyone give an opinion on that? An NZ7 review says this: "The step-down NZ7 applies JVC's previous two-phase/120 Hz e-shift to enhance 4K or 8K signals beyond native 4K resolution. This feature, minus the compatibility with 8K signals, was previously reserved for JVC's top-of-the-line DLA-NX9." Will the current HDMI board limit me in any way? In browsing this thread, it seems many of you have issued with your JVC projectors with your Emotiva processors. Is this likely to be the case for the new NZ series? Everyone has a budget, but mine is pretty flexible. I am interested in other options from other manufacturers, even if the cost is higher. I have a two-row theater with at least two subs. I was planning to add at least a third if not a fourth. So, having more than 2 sub outputs without compromising the number of other channels was a wish, but I'm not sure I'm going to get it. Clearly, sound quality is a priority to me as well The theater won't be ready for electronics until January at the earliest, so I do have some time to wait to order; however, I do need to make decisions about speaker placement soon during the construction. For instance, it seems like the XMC-2/RMC-1 both will require me to give up 2 Atmos channels if I want to have more than 1 sub, so if I am going to go Emotiva, I'm going to have to compromise somewhat the Atmos ceiling speaker placement especially having 2 rows. I also was thinking I would do 2 sets of side surrounds speakers, one for each row. Not sure if any processor allows for that while still maintaining time alignment and all that. Thanks for any input. In my opinion having more than one sub out is only necessary if you are using something like Dirac Live Bass Control. This is an add on to the Dirac Live room correction software which the Emotiva processors use. This is currently not available for these processors. This will hopefully be in a future update though, but unsure when. Until then, you're better off running all your subwoofers from one output on the processor into something like an MiniDSP 2x4 HD and using that to time align them and everything. Personally I do not have any need for HDMI 2.1 any time soon, I don't think we'll see any significant amount of 8K content for many years. I also don't really game much at all or use 120hz but I can see how that might appeal to those with new consoles. IMO that would be the biggest upgrade and not the resolution. If that's something important to you then I would wait. For me, not a big deal. Also there's a possibility the 2.1 boards will bring with them a slew of new bugs and issues as there have been a ton of those with other manufacturers. The projector issues are hard to say because no one has got the new JVC projectors in their hands yet as far as I know. If I were in the market, I'd be buying based on what I needed and what is available that fits those needs right now. There's been many times I've bought based on promises for future upgrades but those don't always materialize. |
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Post by hsamwel on Nov 2, 2021 13:06:43 GMT -5
So RMC-1 has been reviewed by Swedens biggest HT paper, Hemmabio.
What was the verdict?
Well pretty much glowing review and they call it their new reference processor.
Amazing sound quality, channel separation, clarity and detail.
Although they don’t even mention the elevated bass..
Really good build quality and good inputs.
They even said the stereo sound from Reference Stereo was the best they’ve
ever heard from a HT processor.
Great feature set and they poured a little sugar on the PEQ with REW support.
They think it’s a real bargain at 70000SEK. Which I guess is about $7000!!!
One thing they they noted though was how slow it was. Extremely slow even.
The tester had problems with the settings menu lagging. He many times
pressed the remote too many times causing him to miss the option he wanted
to go to.
I know the feeling..
As a final note they did recommend it as an enthusiast device because of the
old school basic UI and slowness. It was not recommended for Joe Average
due to this.
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Post by foggy1956 on Nov 2, 2021 14:29:45 GMT -5
I am coming from an XMC-1 and a BenQ 1080p projector. I just ordered a JVC NZ7 for my new theater build. Trying to figure out what processor to use. I had originally planned on doing an XMC-2 using the trade in program. I chatted with Emotiva yesterday and asked when HDMI 2.1 would be available and was told: Hello! We anticipate having the HDMI 2.1B in production by spring 2022! Thanks! I was really hoping to setup the theater gear one time and be done with it. Not really keen on the idea of removing the processor after only a few months to upgrade the board. That said, I'm not sure how critical it actually is to have HDMI 2.1 with my projector given the lack of content. Can anyone give an opinion on that? An NZ7 review says this: "The step-down NZ7 applies JVC's previous two-phase/120 Hz e-shift to enhance 4K or 8K signals beyond native 4K resolution. This feature, minus the compatibility with 8K signals, was previously reserved for JVC's top-of-the-line DLA-NX9." Will the current HDMI board limit me in any way? In browsing this thread, it seems many of you have issued with your JVC projectors with your Emotiva processors. Is this likely to be the case for the new NZ series? Everyone has a budget, but mine is pretty flexible. I am interested in other options from other manufacturers, even if the cost is higher. I have a two-row theater with at least two subs. I was planning to add at least a third if not a fourth. So, having more than 2 sub outputs without compromising the number of other channels was a wish, but I'm not sure I'm going to get it. Clearly, sound quality is a priority to me as well The theater won't be ready for electronics until January at the earliest, so I do have some time to wait to order; however, I do need to make decisions about speaker placement soon during the construction. For instance, it seems like the XMC-2/RMC-1 both will require me to give up 2 Atmos channels if I want to have more than 1 sub, so if I am going to go Emotiva, I'm going to have to compromise somewhat the Atmos ceiling speaker placement especially having 2 rows. I also was thinking I would do 2 sets of side surrounds speakers, one for each row. Not sure if any processor allows for that while still maintaining time alignment and all that. Thanks for any input. I wouldn't put much stock in Emotiva's expected release dates. |
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Post by rbk123 on Nov 2, 2021 17:06:10 GMT -5
I had originally planned on doing an XMC-2 using the trade in program. You have until 1/1/22 to decide on the XMC-2 since the trade in program will end then. I also echo Foggy's comment - one thing you can be sure of and that's 2.1B won't be released by the Spring of '22. |
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I long ago lost interest in the efforts of Arcam to give solid early firmwares to all the other 16ch oem pre pros they were writing code for as I had at the time [from a Emo forum member] a Yamaha suggestion ; which was solid and subsequently an Acurus muse .
