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Post by AudioHTIT on Apr 7, 2022 5:22:05 GMT -5
I love the fact that I can use the Emotiva Remote App on my MacBook Air! I wish they would come out with something like this for Android users. To my knowledge they still do not have a good working version for Android phones. If I am wrong, please head me in the right direction. Tks The feature that allows some of us to run iOS apps (like the Emotiva Remote), is having any Apple Silicon (M1) based Mac, it’s nothing Emotiva did. These are all Apple technologies (iOS, macOS, M1) so they’ve added this functionality. Windows 11 is supposed to have a similar capability for Android apps. Here’s one article on doing this: www.windowscentral.com/how-get-started-android-apps-windows-11Edit: However, this won’t fix a broken Android app. From what I’ve read in the Emotiva Remote thread, the Android app does seem to work on some phones, so possibly the Windows 11 emulation might work. |
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Post by 5channels on Apr 7, 2022 8:27:39 GMT -5
Define "others are also good." I came from a Marantz midrange unit. I'm used to fairly high-end audio (not stratospheric, mind you, but the expense on this system isn't trivial) and while the Marantz sounded quite good with my setup, the Emotiva utterly crushes it on sound quality. I've worked around the issues and I'm thrilled with the system on a daily basis. I'll welcome the firmware updates when they arrive, but at least for me they are *not* a requirement. Before I tried Emotiva I had a top Marantz at the time from Friday till the following Monday. I really wanted to like it, but couldn't. That experience is what lead me to order a processor from Emotiva. I'm not moving away from my XMC-2. It works for me, and it has put up with lots of "test setups" troubleshooting issues for others without being bricked. I love the fact that I can use the Emotiva Remote App on my MacBook Air! Where do you get the app from? On my MacBook I do not see it in the app store when I search for Emotiva. Right now I can control from my iPhone and iPad, having it on my MacBook would be a plus. The fact the app is not available for the Android community is a huge ball dropped. |
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Post by Thunderduck on Apr 7, 2022 8:51:48 GMT -5
I wish they would come out with something like this for Android users. To my knowledge they still do not have a good working version for Android phones. If I am wrong, please head me in the right direction. Tks The feature that allows some of us to run iOS apps (like the Emotiva Remote), is having any Apple Silicon (M1) based Mac, it’s nothing Emotiva did. These are all Apple technologies (iOS, macOS, M1) so they’ve added this functionality. Windows 11 is supposed to have a similar capability for Android apps. Here’s one article on doing this: www.windowscentral.com/how-get-started-android-apps-windows-11Edit: However, this won’t fix a broken Android app. From what I’ve read in the Emotiva Remote thread, the Android app does seem to work on some phones, so possibly the Windows 11 emulation might work. Unfortunately, my laptop is not Windows 11 compatible. Would like an app that would work on my Android phone but not a make or break issue for me. Just a nice to have feature. Take care. |
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Post by KeithL on Apr 7, 2022 8:58:52 GMT -5
That's one of the main benefits of dealing with a small company.
Such individual attention is relatively simple for a small company, with only a few current products, and perhaps one or two new products in development. And it's even more true if the code itself is open source, or relatively simple, and easily understood by anyone who wishes to customize or modify it.
It gets progressively more difficult as you start adding more products, and support for discontinued products, and research and development of multiple new products, and so on...
And, of course, with a very small company, or even an individual developer, there can be big problems if that company goes out of business, or gets bought, or the developer decides to retire someday.
(Also, in most cases, companies of that size lack the funding to engage in large complex development projects - where both development and maintenance costs can start relatively high and go up very quickly.)
One of my hobbies is designing and building 3D printers. The processor board I use is from a smallish company in the UK. They have a first rate forum. The developers of the firmware and related supporting software have a near daily presence on the forum. You get to interact directly with them. We end users don't have to guess where development is headed, they tell us. One time I needed an additional small feature added to the firmware. A few days later there it was for me to test and verify that it was working as I desired. Some companies could learn from them. Frederick |
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Post by ttocs on Apr 7, 2022 9:35:45 GMT -5
Before I tried Emotiva I had a top Marantz at the time from Friday till the following Monday. I really wanted to like it, but couldn't. That experience is what lead me to order a processor from Emotiva. I'm not moving away from my XMC-2. It works for me, and it has put up with lots of "test setups" troubleshooting issues for others without being bricked. I love the fact that I can use the Emotiva Remote App on my MacBook Air! Where do you get the app from? On my MacBook I do not see it in the app store when I search for Emotiva. Right now I can control from my iPhone and iPad, having it on my MacBook would be a plus. In the App Store search for: Emotiva Remote. As AudioHTIT pointed out, the only Macs it will work on are the ones with an M1 processor. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Apr 7, 2022 9:41:02 GMT -5
The feature that allows some of us to run iOS apps (like the Emotiva Remote), is having any Apple Silicon (M1) based Mac, it’s nothing Emotiva did. These are all Apple technologies (iOS, macOS, M1) so they’ve added this functionality. Windows 11 is supposed to have a similar capability for Android apps. Here’s one article on doing this: www.windowscentral.com/how-get-started-android-apps-windows-11Edit: However, this won’t fix a broken Android app. From what I’ve read in the Emotiva Remote thread, the Android app does seem to work on some phones, so possibly the Windows 11 emulation might work. Unfortunately, my laptop is not Windows 11 compatible. Would like an app that would work on my Android phone but not a make or break issue for me. Just a nice to have feature. Take care. I think that’s reasonable, it appears when they contacted Richard Lesniak to do the iOS / iPadOS 3.x update, they didn’t include Android (if Richard did the Android?) I think the best thing Android users can do is to make sure Emotiva knows that functionality is still wanted. It may be though, they based their decision on downloads for each platform and maybe there weren’t that many Android users? (just speculation) |
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Post by 5channels on Apr 7, 2022 10:00:45 GMT -5
Unfortunately, my laptop is not Windows 11 compatible. Would like an app that would work on my Android phone but not a make or break issue for me. Just a nice to have feature. Take care. I think that’s reasonable, it appears when they contacted Richard Lesniak to do the iOS / iPadOS 3.x update, they didn’t include Android (if Richard did the Android?) I think the best thing Android users can do is to make sure Emotiva knows that functionality is still wanted. It may be though, they based their decision on downloads for each platform and maybe there weren’t that many Android users? (just speculation) Surely, Emotiva does not need us to tell them that Android covers almost 50% of the smartphone market. This would be a major oversite from a sales projection analysis...heads would roll. It would certainly be a deciding factor for many when scoping out the market. But then again, that primitive OSD, says a lot to me about keeping up with the times. I think it is more indicative of a possible dead-end on software development at Emo Towers. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Apr 7, 2022 10:15:36 GMT -5
I think that’s reasonable, it appears when they contacted Richard Lesniak to do the iOS / iPadOS 3.x update, they didn’t include Android (if Richard did the Android?) I think the best thing Android users can do is to make sure Emotiva knows that functionality is still wanted. It may be though, they based their decision on downloads for each platform and maybe there weren’t that many Android users? (just speculation) Surely, Emotiva does not need us to tell them that Android covers almost 50% of the smartphone market. This would be a major oversite from a sales projection analysis...heads would roll. It would certainly be a deciding factor for many when scoping out the market. But then again, that primitive OSD, says a lot to me about keeping up with the times. I think it is more indicative of a possible dead-end on software development at Emo Towers. I don’t think it necessarily follows that because 46% of mobile phones use Android*, that same percentage buys Emotiva G3Ps, hence my mention of how many Apps were downloaded. If not that many have downloaded the Android App, then it doesn’t seem to be a “major oversite” (I don’t know the actual numbers, but downloads seem a good metric). I suggested writing because maybe that will let them know there still is a demand, but it might not make a difference. Another thought (if they’re not going to continue development) would be to push for the Android code to become open source. * www.statista.com/statistics/1045192/share-of-mobile-operating-systems-in-north-america-by-month/ |
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Post by 5channels on Apr 7, 2022 10:54:25 GMT -5
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Post by AudioHTIT on Apr 7, 2022 11:29:39 GMT -5
No, you are not correct, there is an an Android App, however to my knowledge it has not been updated in some time. There is some discussion in this thread started a couple years ago: The Emotiva Remote V3 ThreadThere was at least one report that the Android App worked on a particular phone with the G3P, I tried to create a compatibility chart, but no other Android users reported (more evidence of low interest). The Emotiva Remote V3 Compatibility ChartEdit: The first post above would be a good place to continue this discussion. |
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Post by Lsc on Apr 7, 2022 13:54:51 GMT -5
I never use that app for the iPhone. I’m in the XMC2 menus hardly ever so I would essentially use it for volume control which I have my Harmony and Apple TV remote and the Emotiva brick remote.
To think that Emotiva would at any point have an android app fixed or developed…I’m literally shaking my head here lol.
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Post by msimanyi on Apr 7, 2022 15:09:49 GMT -5
I'm not a developer, but the Android app issue might boil down to how fractured the Android market is. If you update the iOS app, I believe it's valid for all phones not yet "retired" from the OS updates. I know iPadOS has been active for a couple years now but I believe the iOS apps work on that as well. Develop one iOS app, and you've covered a *lot* of users.
But if you develop or update for Android, aren't there like 4 or 5 major versions still active? I haven't been on Android in probably 8 or 9 years, but I recall this issue being a problem for developers back then.
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Post by panasonicst60 on Apr 7, 2022 19:24:44 GMT -5
Every time that Keith post a comment, he should have an update on the firmware release. Isn't that all we ask?
Example, We are having some issues due to...... and ...... So now it looks like it will be pushed back to late Jun at the earliest.
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Post by 5channels on Apr 7, 2022 19:38:20 GMT -5
Every time that Keith post a comment, he should have an update on the firmware release. Isn't that all we ask? Example, We are having some issues due to...... and ...... So now it looks like it will be pushed back to late Jun at the earliest. 100% Spot on. In fact, it should be his signature |
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Post by davidl81 on Apr 7, 2022 20:38:25 GMT -5
I think that’s reasonable, it appears when they contacted Richard Lesniak to do the iOS / iPadOS 3.x update, they didn’t include Android (if Richard did the Android?) I think the best thing Android users can do is to make sure Emotiva knows that functionality is still wanted. It may be though, they based their decision on downloads for each platform and maybe there weren’t that many Android users? (just speculation) Surely, Emotiva does not need us to tell them that Android covers almost 50% of the smartphone market. This would be a major oversite from a sales projection analysis...heads would roll. It would certainly be a deciding factor for many when scoping out the market. But then again, that primitive OSD, says a lot to me about keeping up with the times. I think it is more indicative of a possible dead-end on software development at Emo Towers. Look, I think most people get that Android is like 50% of the market. But here is the other reality, Android is like 10% of the high end market and Apple dominates the higher end market. That part is clear by the amount spent between the Apple App Store and other “app stores”. It does not mean an Android is a bad phone etc, it just means that if I was going to spend my money developing an app for a cell phone I would 100% focus on the Apple platform because that’s where 90% of the people who are buying $3-5k HT processors are. |
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Post by fazedout on Apr 7, 2022 21:00:41 GMT -5
Every time that Keith post a comment, he should have an update on the firmware release. Isn't that all we ask? Example, We are having some issues due to...... and ...... So now it looks like it will be pushed back to late Jun at the earliest. 100% Spot on. In fact, it should be his signature the whole E-Team may be busy with the no expense or feature spared latest R&D launch….. hopefully with FW 1.1+ 🤣 youtu.be/_WpNQrbcrlE |
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Post by autocrat on Apr 8, 2022 0:45:51 GMT -5
Surely, Emotiva does not need us to tell them that Android covers almost 50% of the smartphone market. This would be a major oversite from a sales projection analysis...heads would roll. It would certainly be a deciding factor for many when scoping out the market. But then again, that primitive OSD, says a lot to me about keeping up with the times. I think it is more indicative of a possible dead-end on software development at Emo Towers. Look, I think most people get that Android is like 50% of the market. But here is the other reality, Android is like 10% of the high end market and Apple dominates the higher end market. That part is clear by the amount spent between the Apple App Store and other “app stores”. It does not mean an Android is a bad phone etc, it just means that if I was going to spend my money developing an app for a cell phone I would 100% focus on the Apple platform because that’s where 90% of the people who are buying $3-5k HT processors are. Any facts to back that up? Seems a bit speculative. |
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Post by 5channels on Apr 8, 2022 6:20:59 GMT -5
No, you are not correct, there is an an Android App, however to my knowledge it has not been updated in some time. There is some discussion in this thread started a couple years ago: The Emotiva Remote V3 ThreadThere was at least one report that the Android App worked on a particular phone with the G3P, I tried to create a compatibility chart, but no other Android users reported (more evidence of low interest). The Emotiva Remote V3 Compatibility ChartEdit: The first post above would be a good place to continue this discussion. I had a look last night on the Play Store, yes, it is the flakey XMC-1 version for Android. It will work with my XMC-2 but very inconsistently. The newer Emotiva remote App for iOS is a big improvement, but still flakey. At least Emo is consistent from a lack of stability with this product line. Kudos to them for getting it wrong across the board. |
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Post by 5channels on Apr 8, 2022 6:35:16 GMT -5
100% Spot on. In fact, it should be his signature the whole E-Team may be busy with the no expense or feature spared latest R&D launch….. hopefully with FW 1.1+ 🤣 youtu.be/_WpNQrbcrlEWow, talk about a slap to their "high-end" customer base. Emo, please cut it with the coy April Fool's jokes, it's all so very lame and stale. Put the time and effort into fixing current your product line. When it comes to comedy, don't quit your day job...literally!!! Earlier in this thread, someone posted that we who "whine" about Emo are acting like teenage girls, or something to that effect. After seeing this video, Emo reminds me of the teenager behind the Customer Service counter, talking and texting on their phone, with a growing line up of clients at the counter...we all know, the teenager who wont even look up from their phone to even acknowledge there are people demanding service. |
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Post by doc1963 on Apr 8, 2022 10:01:35 GMT -5
the whole E-Team may be busy with the no expense or feature spared latest R&D launch….. hopefully with FW 1.1+ 🤣 youtu.be/_WpNQrbcrlEWow, talk about a slap to their "high-end" customer base. Emo, please cut it with the coy April Fool's jokes, it's all so very lame and stale. Put the time and effort into fixing current your product line. When it comes to comedy, don't quit your day job...literally!!! Earlier in this thread, someone posted that we who "whine" about Emo are acting like teenage girls, or something to that effect. After seeing this video, Emo reminds me of the teenager behind the Customer Service counter, talking and texting on their phone, with a growing line up of clients at the counter...we all know, the teenager who wont even look up from their phone to even acknowledge there are people demanding service. While I wouldn’t disagree that having a benchmark product that performs at the top of its game is worth far more in marketing value than a silly April Fool’s spot, please keep in mind that the person responsible for this is not the same person, or any part of the team, who should be hashing away at processor code. His job is marketing and maintaining a social media presence for the brand. In as much, I think he does a great job. Having said that, I rather enjoy these once a year April Fool’s spoofs. If for nothing else, they offer me a 30 second chuckle over something that’s not intended to be taken seriously. Something that I suppose we all could use a bit more of... |
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