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Post by novisnick on Aug 10, 2020 22:17:56 GMT -5
Could be happening to Disney as we speak. Unless there’s a huge uproar, Disney may be ending their physical media distribution of 4K Blu-Ray films. I’m saddened as I collect many films that I enjoy. When the internet is down I still have movies and I prefer the sound and audio vs streaming. I spin Lp’s, similar maybe? We all know that this day is coming, why sell a disc when you can charge for a service or a download which eventually will only be a rental. Here’s one link to some information, I’m sure if you look you’ll find more. Feel free to post them in this thread. what are your thoughts? insidethemagic.net/2020/08/no-more-disney-4k-blu-ray-tm1/?fbclid=IwAR09XmkYmxdjktTKrEXX_uPYhP2S7ETqBeW2eyo-YVO2_Eu-v3n5vTwmSCs |
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Post by Gary Cook on Aug 10, 2020 22:45:11 GMT -5
There are movies that I want to watch, only once, they are rented. Then there are movies that I want to watch, more than once, they are purchased. Whether they are streamed or physical copies is irrelevant AS LONG AS the video and audio quality is top shelf. And that is the problem, with so many people currently working from home all of the streaming services in Australia have cut back on their bandwidth utilisation. Hence reduced video quality, hardly any 4K and what there is is horrid and as for HDR you're dreaming. Plus limited audio selections, not a lot of Atmos/DTSX and even Pure HD and HDMA is hard to find, DD5.1 is the most common.
If Disney thinks that streaming is acceptable world wide then they are in for real shock.
Cheers
Gary
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Post by Boomzilla on Aug 11, 2020 2:11:03 GMT -5
The studios have ALWAYS wanted a distribution model where THEY had sole control of the content, and could charge repeatedly for the same piece. Looks like they're about to get their heart's desire...
But of course, the pirates will still innovate apace. Whatever can be streamed in a format that the display and sound system can use, can be copied. Period. And now once again, public sympathy will begin to swing in the pirates' direction. Perhaps the studios have (again) shot themselves in their foot?
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Post by vcautokid on Aug 11, 2020 6:25:15 GMT -5
A sign of the times and greed and locking down and pushing we own the stuff and it is licensed to you only. I agree, there are times I want the Blue Ray 4K UHD. This is not trivial, and you know others are looking closely at this as anything physical is dying a slow death. The numbers and the convenience factors don't lie. The Blue Ray no doubt is the best we may have. Not relevant to the people who create the content realizing that a stream on any device anytime and anywhere is more compelling than a stay at home only format. Cds pretty much gone, and records and tapes are a niche commodity at best. Money is where you go. Anywhere. Anywhere is money. VOD and more though Tidal and others are a struggle to profitability. Not putting in a physical anything is nice sometimes. Click a mouse, touch an icon. Play what you want wherever and whenever you want. Versatility and portability will rule. I can't see why Blue Ray still could not continue, no harm there. It is business folks. Profit and costs. Has been around forever. No physical media means no plants to make them. Environmental impact lessened. It just comes from servers, and your license to play along. A time where you take money and you get a license. You thought buying water was odd. Try buying something you don't hold in your hand anymore. Compelling? For you decide. Me? I like options. Always have. But the game is about numbers. And the streams are winning folks. Most people I talk to barely know what a DVD is much less a Blue Ray, and most think HD is as good as it gets. So 4K and 8K and 12K cameras are from outer space to them. But they know what YouTube and Netflix, Disney on Demand, Hulu etc. are.
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Post by mgbpuff on Aug 11, 2020 7:10:00 GMT -5
The price for physical media as well as the price for players will go up, excluding a lot of people from affording them. I remember when LD movies could cost $100 and up. LD players were all $1000 to $2000 and this was years ago. The wealthy will get what they want.
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Post by 405x5 on Aug 11, 2020 7:31:00 GMT -5
Nothing has destroyed my interest in the technology more than the technology itself.
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Post by Pioneer on Aug 11, 2020 8:26:05 GMT -5
Could be happening to Disney as we speak. Unless there’s a huge uproar, Disney may be ending their physical media distribution of 4K Blu-Ray films. I’m saddened as I collect many films that I enjoy. When the internet is down I still have movies and I prefer the sound and audio vs streaming. I spin Lp’s, similar maybe? We all know that this day is coming, why sell a disc when you can charge for a service or a download which eventually will only be a rental. Here’s one link to some information, I’m sure if you look you’ll find more. Feel free to post them in this thread. what are your thoughts? Nick, where is the link? |
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Post by cawgijoe on Aug 11, 2020 8:38:25 GMT -5
Would not be good as 4K bluray is superior if not in picture, at least in sound.
I do buy movies on 4K bluray that I think I will view again. Unfortunately the majority think that streaming is the way to go and the quality is fine. I know my wife does.
She doesn't like "clutter", so that's part of it.
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Post by doc1963 on Aug 11, 2020 8:41:56 GMT -5
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Post by doc1963 on Aug 11, 2020 8:46:22 GMT -5
And it gets worse... Click... HERE |
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Post by 405x5 on Aug 11, 2020 9:04:09 GMT -5
Last week’s tropical storm left us with power but no internet for Six days.....
Physical Media.....thank you very much.
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Post by novisnick on Aug 11, 2020 9:05:13 GMT -5
Could be happening to Disney as we speak. Unless there’s a huge uproar, Disney may be ending their physical media distribution of 4K Blu-Ray films. I’m saddened as I collect many films that I enjoy. When the internet is down I still have movies and I prefer the sound and audio vs streaming. I spin Lp’s, similar maybe? We all know that this day is coming, why sell a disc when you can charge for a service or a download which eventually will only be a rental. Here’s one link to some information, I’m sure if you look you’ll find more. Feel free to post them in this thread. what are your thoughts? Nick, where is the link? Fixed it, sorry about that. |
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Post by davidl81 on Aug 11, 2020 9:22:16 GMT -5
If I am reading this correctly it seems like physical media will still exist, but only for new releases and big items like the MCU/Star Wars etc. That actually makes a ton of business sense. How many 4k disc are they actually selling of some 1990's movie that was remastered? It's obliviously is not enough to support the business model of making those disc since it made money they would keep on doing it. As long as new titles are released on disc (as the articles imply) then I am okay with it.
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Post by garbulky on Aug 11, 2020 9:41:43 GMT -5
Though 4k streaming is visually better than HD streaming, it is still a step down from 4k discs. If I had to guess, the reason they stopped is because of the current situation we find ourselves in. Once this resolves and people start visiting stores, they will resume selling them.
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Post by doc1963 on Aug 11, 2020 9:48:20 GMT -5
Though 4k streaming is visually better than HD streaming, it is still a step down from 4k discs. If I had to guess, the reason they stopped is because of the current situation we find ourselves in. Once this resolves and people start visiting stores, they will resume selling them. I share that same line of thought...  |
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Post by novisnick on Aug 11, 2020 10:24:16 GMT -5
Though 4k streaming is visually better than HD streaming, it is still a step down from 4k discs. If I had to guess, the reason they stopped is because of the current situation we find ourselves in. Once this resolves and people start visiting stores, they will resume selling them. I share that same line of thought... we can only hope so! And don’t fall into the trap of purchasing or renting anything but physical media. If we let our voices be heard they might hear us! (Some companies & people are deaf and opt to not hear or listen) 🙏🤞🙏 |
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Post by davidl81 on Aug 11, 2020 10:45:45 GMT -5
I share that same line of thought... we can only hope so! And don’t fall into the trap of purchasing or renting anything but physical media. If we let our voices be heard they might hear us! (Some companies & people are deaf and opt to not hear or listen) 🙏🤞🙏 Try owning only physical media with kids in the house, lol. We buy a lot of itunes movies as we find owning the disc for children's content is fairly pointless since they will damage the disc over time. For a while we would buy the disc and use the digital codes, but that was always $5-$10 a disc more and all the kids watched was the digital copies anyway, I still buy physical disc of 4k movies that I really want and that I think will look good on my projector. But there is for sure a place in the world for streaming catalogs and for kids movies those benefits far out weigh the increases in PQ and SQ on the disc. |
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Post by novisnick on Aug 11, 2020 10:56:04 GMT -5
we can only hope so! And don’t fall into the trap of purchasing or renting anything but physical media. If we let our voices be heard they might hear us! (Some companies & people are deaf and opt to not hear or listen) 🙏🤞🙏 Try owning only physical media with kids in the house, lol. We buy a lot of itunes movies as we find owning the disc for children's content is fairly pointless since they will damage the disc over time. For a while we would buy the disc and use the digital codes, but that was always $5-$10 a disc more and all the kids watched was the digital copies anyway, I still buy physical disc of 4k movies that I really want and that I think will look good on my projector. But there is for sure a place in the world for streaming catalogs and for kids movies those benefits far out weigh the increases in PQ and SQ on the disc. No argument from me, but you are now required to sit at the kiddie forum! No Lounge for you!  we love you poem |
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Post by cawgijoe on Aug 11, 2020 10:58:19 GMT -5
we can only hope so! And don’t fall into the trap of purchasing or renting anything but physical media. If we let our voices be heard they might hear us! (Some companies & people are deaf and opt to not hear or listen) 🙏🤞🙏 Try owning only physical media with kids in the house, lol. We buy a lot of itunes movies as we find owning the disc for children's content is fairly pointless since they will damage the disc over time. For a while we would buy the disc and use the digital codes, but that was always $5-$10 a disc more and all the kids watched was the digital copies anyway, I still buy physical disc of 4k movies that I really want and that I think will look good on my projector. But there is for sure a place in the world for streaming catalogs and for kids movies those benefits far out weigh the increases in PQ and SQ on the disc. What you say is very true. When Bluray was new I bought everything in sight. Ended up with movies that I watched once and never again. Seems I can't even give them away these days. So now I only buy 4K bluray discs of new movies that I really want and plan to re-view. Streaming definitely has it's place and streaming quality varies just like with everything else. I find that Apple TV has some really high quality visuals. The others are hit or miss. Audio is ok, but it doesn't compare to a good 4K disc. The problem is that we here are audio/videophiles and we don't see the world like the "normal" folk. For most people it's all about convenience, not audio or video quality. After convenience comes price, the lower the better. |
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Post by megash0n on Aug 11, 2020 11:58:05 GMT -5
Though 4k streaming is visually better than HD streaming, it is still a step down from 4k discs. If I had to guess, the reason they stopped is because of the current situation we find ourselves in. Once this resolves and people start visiting stores, they will resume selling them. Some of these discs have a total bitrate of over 80Mbps. Streaming services won't come close to this for a long time. I'll take my 8+Mbps audio bitrate over 748kbps all day long. |
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