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Post by ajani on May 26, 2010 0:19:59 GMT -5
The UMC-1 is a DAC/preamp combo. But that's multi-channel. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to sell a standalone 2 channel DAC, and 2 different 2 channel preamps, and then to sell a DAC/preamp combo. It doesn't make a lot of sense to have 3 different lines of amplifiers all in the sub $2K price range, but Emotiva seems to be doing quite well with that plan... Not everyone wants or has the same kind of setup... So it a DAC/PRE would just be another alternative in an already large line of product offerings by Emotiva... Also the DAC/PRE would have less features and inputs than an XDA-1 / XSP-1 combo... So it could be the product for persons whose needs are somewhere in between just an XDA-1 direct to a power amp and those in need of the XDA-1 and a full function preamp... |
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Post by ratmice on Jun 1, 2010 10:10:41 GMT -5
What news of the DAC? They should be in house, no?
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Post by CrazyBlue on Jun 1, 2010 12:02:26 GMT -5
P.S. it is just my opinion, but if you really want to get the most out of the XDA. Connect it straight to the amp and forget about using a pre-amp. Just playing with it here, we originally had it run into the USP. We could hear a difference and it sounded better than the ERC itself, but it really wasn't a night and day difference. So we decided to connect it directly to the amps and see what that sounded like. Well that was when we realized just how good it really is and it was the night and day difference we were expecting. So if I am reading this correctly, if I have just a couple of inputs, such as an ERC-1 and a Sonos box, I can just use the XDA and negate the need for my USP-1? How would this work with a sub, though? (sorry if this question is ignorant.. I'm a little confused). I'd like to know the best solution for that too. I'm planning a 2-channel system that will have 3 digital sources; A PC, DirecTV HD DVR (XM Radio), and Oppo DVD player. I want to add a subwoofer later to make it a 2.1 system, so planned on routing the analog out from the XDA-1 -> USP-1 -> UPA-1 X2. The only other source would be an ERC-1, which I'd just run analog to the USP-1. So I'll be losing some of the potential SQ of the XDA-1 by routing it through the USP-1 instead of directly to the amps? I guess it doesn't really matter in the end. The Oppo may have a pretty good DAC on its own, but the PC and DVR will need something better. I'm running the PC via analog out now and it needs help. I've heard the analog out of the DVR to analog inputs on my MMC-1 compared to the digital outputs/inputs running throught the MMC-1's DAC. BIG difference. I just hate to think I'd not be utilizing the XDA-1's full potential. The only hang-up is the subwoofer? If I take that out of the mix, I could run all sources through the XDA-1 and to the amps. Correct? Could a left/right signal be run to a sub from the XDA-1 and just use the sub's high pass/low pass controls? |
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Post by UT-Driven on Jun 1, 2010 12:24:49 GMT -5
So if I am reading this correctly, if I have just a couple of inputs, such as an ERC-1 and a Sonos box, I can just use the XDA and negate the need for my USP-1? How would this work with a sub, though? (sorry if this question is ignorant.. I'm a little confused). I'd like to know the best solution for that too. I'm planning a 2-channel system that will have 3 digital sources; A PC, DirecTV HD DVR (XM Radio), and Oppo DVD player. I want to add a subwoofer later to make it a 2.1 system, so planned on routing the analog out from the XDA-1 -> USP-1 -> UPA-1 X2. The only other source would be an ERC-1, which I'd just run analog to the USP-1. So I'll be losing some of the potential SQ of the XDA-1 by routing it through the USP-1 instead of directly to the amps? I guess it doesn't really matter in the end. The Oppo may have a pretty good DAC on its own, but the PC and DVR will need something better. I'm running the PC via analog out now and it needs help. I've heard the analog out of the DVR to analog inputs on my MMC-1 compared to the digital outputs/inputs running throught the MMC-1's DAC. BIG difference. I just hate to think I'd not be utilizing the XDA-1's full potential. The only hang-up is the subwoofer? If I take that out of the mix, I could run all sources through the XDA-1 and to the amps. Correct? Could a left/right signal be run to a sub from the XDA-1 and just use the sub's high pass/low pass controls? Any time you add another component, you won't be utilizing it to the full potential. You are using a high quality pre-amp, so it will still kick butt. I have no idea how minimal the difference would be between XDA-1 -> AMP compared to XDA-1 -> USP-1 -> AMP but I don't expect it will be a night and day difference. Doug |
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Post by jlafrenz on Jun 1, 2010 15:22:47 GMT -5
If you wanted to connect a sub with the XDA-1 directly to the amps, you could look into a sub with "high level" connections. This is a sub that has connections that look like standard wire posts on an amp. They connect to the R/L channels of the main amp and are sent the signal from there utilizing the crossover on the sub amp. \
Rel is a sub company who recommends this type of connection, but there are also several others that will have this type of connection.
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Post by regulator on Jun 2, 2010 16:26:45 GMT -5
What is the latest on this DAC?
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Post by eirik84 on Jun 3, 2010 9:27:15 GMT -5
Anybody know if the XDA-1 can be controlled by a Logitech Hamony remote?
(for volume-adjustment)
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Post by UT-Driven on Jun 3, 2010 10:19:28 GMT -5
Anybody know if the XDA-1 can be controlled by a Logitech Hamony remote? (for volume-adjustment) I don't recall any mention of a remote for changing the volume. If not, then the Harmony remote won't be able to control it. Doug |
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Post by dsnyder0cnn on Jun 3, 2010 14:41:20 GMT -5
Hello,
I realize that I'm replying to an old post, but I'm new here and glad that I saw this today as I was about to pull the trigger on a Benchmark DAC1 HDR to sit along side my Emotiva UMC-1 for two channel duties. It sounds like I should wait a bit to see what becomes of this new design. Is this a 2010 project or 2011?
Please let me know if I can help with beta testing!
-- David
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Post by Erwin.BE on Jun 4, 2010 3:09:31 GMT -5
Hello, I realize that I'm replying to an old post, but I'm new here and glad that I saw this today as I was about to pull the trigger on a Benchmark DAC1 HDR to sit along side my Emotiva UMC-1 for two channel duties. It sounds like I should wait a bit to see what becomes of this new design. Is this a 2010 project or 2011? Please let me know if I can help with beta testing! -- David There's a bit more info in the latest web-cast here: emotiva.com/webcast050710/webcast.shtmAll I can guess is that the XDA-1 is imminent, it should arrive in the next couple of weeks, I hope. Please hurry, dear Emotiva people, before the Euro drops even more! We lost 20% the last 6 months... The Greeks have a lot to answer for! |
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Post by solidstate on Jun 4, 2010 12:23:18 GMT -5
Anybody know if the XDA-1 can be controlled by a Logitech Hamony remote? (for volume-adjustment) I don't recall any mention of a remote for changing the volume. If not, then the Harmony remote won't be able to control it. Doug Yup it has IR! |
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Post by solidstate on Jun 4, 2010 12:26:16 GMT -5
Hello, I realize that I'm replying to an old post, but I'm new here and glad that I saw this today as I was about to pull the trigger on a Benchmark DAC1 HDR to sit along side my Emotiva UMC-1 for two channel duties. It sounds like I should wait a bit to see what becomes of this new design. Is this a 2010 project or 2011? Please let me know if I can help with beta testing! -- David It's eminent in the sense that emo will receive a batch in the very near future. I'm not sure where they are in terms of production counts but my bet is they will be horded for some months until production ramps up. Have you guys seen the analog section!!! www.emonatics.com/XDA-1.shtmlThe user that runs that site I bet has one... but he can't say anything... My bet is it will be horded for months... perhaps years LOL |
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Post by sanjaygolf on Jun 4, 2010 12:32:18 GMT -5
That's Lonnie in the pics with the mule of the unfinished XDA-1. He posted those pics in this thread earlier. I'm fairly certain Emonatics does not have one.
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Post by UT-Driven on Jun 4, 2010 13:26:20 GMT -5
I don't recall any mention of a remote for changing the volume. If not, then the Harmony remote won't be able to control it. Doug Yup it has IR! I missed that. It looks like it will be a killer DAC! Doug |
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Post by CrazyBlue on Jun 5, 2010 15:31:43 GMT -5
So what's the verdict on the digital volume control on this baby? Does it drop bits to attenuate like most do or is it special?
Will I lose SQ at low volumes without the USP-1 volume control, thus losing some of what I've gained by not using the preamp?
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Post by albireo13 on Jun 6, 2010 9:36:41 GMT -5
Any updates?
I was just about to pull the trigger on a DAC and found out about this.
I volunteer to be a Beta tester!
Rob
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Post by dsnyder0cnn on Jun 6, 2010 10:08:02 GMT -5
Hi, So what's the verdict on the digital volume control on this baby? Does it drop bits to attenuate like most do or is it special? Will I lose SQ at low volumes without the USP-1 volume control, thus losing some of what I've gained by not using the preamp? I have the same question! I assume that the volume control will be basically the same unit that's in the UMC-1. If so, that will be a bit of a bummer, although not as bad as what you described above. The XDA-1 sounds like it will have a much beefier output stage than the USP-1, so it seems a shame to put it behind the USP-1 to get true analog volume control. Sigh. -- David |
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Post by solidstate on Jun 8, 2010 13:51:07 GMT -5
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Post by dsnyder0cnn on Jun 8, 2010 15:10:23 GMT -5
Hello, That looks pretty cool. I'd be willing to "settle" for a solution like what Benchmark Media did for their DAC1 HDR. It's a custom built, motorized ALPS potentiometer. Probably not as transparent as relays, but better than a digital attenuator. -- David |
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Post by matt on Jun 9, 2010 12:02:47 GMT -5
This is what Lonnie said about the volume control: ... Now the DACs themselves have a level attentuator built into the chips, so all we would be doing is giving you access to the attenuators. If you you wanted to "Bypass" the internal volume control, you would just turn it up all the way and forget it. If we were to take out the volume control, we would just be pre-setting the attenuators.  |
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