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Post by LuisV on Dec 9, 2020 13:55:07 GMT -5
So far they have only a few hours in the Freya; however, I'm digging the RCA 6SN7GTB tubes from the early 60s over the Raytheons.  |
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Post by simpleman68 on Dec 9, 2020 14:18:02 GMT -5
I only have the Freya + but really enjoy the sound of it as well as the option to toggle between modes.
Just need to find good tube option for the 6SN7s. So many options out there. I tried a vintage set from Tube Depot but they sounded awful to me. (1950s set of GE 6SN7GTA)
Edit: Found a matching set of 4 of the Raytheon/Baldwin GTB and bought them.  Scott
How are those Raytheon/Baldwin tubes treating ya? They sound great and aren't too muted on the highs. Scott
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Post by LuisV on Dec 9, 2020 15:35:02 GMT -5
Nice! Glad they worked out for ya! I'm having a blast baking and listening to various tubes in the Freya... going to hold off passing any judgements until I rotate the Psvane tubes into the system, but that will be closer to the end of the month.
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Post by brubacca on Dec 9, 2020 19:21:26 GMT -5
I am expecting a Modi MultiBit next week and I'm really thinking about a Vali 2+ then converting for use with the 6SN7 tube.
Love my Schiit although I am loving the Darkvoice 336Se tube headphone amp.
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Post by LuisV on Dec 9, 2020 20:17:34 GMT -5
I have a Modi MultiBit between my Node 2i and Freya... sounds fantastic.
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Post by Afford-HiFi on Dec 10, 2020 20:55:19 GMT -5
Have any of you used the Schiit Saga+? My current turntable set up consists of the following:
Audiotechnica AT-LP7 Turntable
Schiit Vidar Amplifier
Schiit Modi DAC (for those times I feel like rocking bluetooth)
Schiit Mani Phono
Schiit SYS Pre
KEF Q750 Speakers
I have seriously been considering swapping the SYS with a Saga+. I will not lie though, when it comes to anything to do with tubes I am a complete noob.
Do you think the Saga+ would be an upgrade over the SYS?
Any input would be appreciated.
James
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Post by brubacca on Dec 10, 2020 22:40:55 GMT -5
Do I think the Saga+ would be an upgrade over the Sys?
Yes. Simple answer. I love tubes in the music chain and the Saga+ is a tubed preamp. If you can afford it go for it.
With only one source the new Vali+ would also give you some of that tube flavor at a lower price point than Saga+
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Post by LuisV on Dec 15, 2020 14:04:21 GMT -5
Ok fellow schiit heads... any other 6SN7 tube recommendations? So far I've baked the following in my Freya: - Tung-Sol 6SN7GTB - Stock tubes
- Electro-Harmonix 6SN7 EH
- GE 6SN7GTA with copper grid posts, "D" getter; 1950s
- RAYTHEON 6SN7GTB short bottle with side "D" getter and black plates
- RCA 6SN7GTB with bottom getter and black plates; one 1961 May, the other 1963 Nov
- CBS 6SN7GTB with 2-Hole black plates and bottom "D" getter; 1956 Week 22
I have these on hand, just haven't gotten to them yet. - Psvane UK-6SN7
- Raytheon 6SN7GTB medium bottle with black plates, halo getter
Let me know if there are any others that you would recommend I try...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 14:06:46 GMT -5
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Post by monkumonku on Dec 15, 2020 14:14:07 GMT -5
Ok fellow schiit heads... any other 6SN7 tube recommendations? So far I've baked the following in my Freya: - Tung-Sol 6SN7GTB - Stock tubes
- Electro-Harmonix 6SN7 EH
- GE 6SN7GTA with copper grid posts, "D" getter; 1950s
- RAYTHEON 6SN7GTB short bottle with side "D" getter and black plates
- RCA 6SN7GTB with bottom getter and black plates; one 1961 May, the other 1963 Nov
- CBS 6SN7GTB with 2-Hole black plates and bottom "D" getter; 1956 Week 22
I have these on hand, just haven't gotten to them yet. - Psvane UK-6SN7
- Raytheon 6SN7GTB medium bottle with black plates, halo getter
Let me know if there are any others that you would recommend I try...
So how much difference do you hear among all of those? Are you going to settle on one set or just keep rolling them? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 14:20:31 GMT -5
Ok fellow schiit heads... any other 6SN7 tube recommendations? So far I've baked the following in my Freya: - Tung-Sol 6SN7GTB - Stock tubes
- Electro-Harmonix 6SN7 EH
- GE 6SN7GTA with copper grid posts, "D" getter; 1950s
- RAYTHEON 6SN7GTB short bottle with side "D" getter and black plates
- RCA 6SN7GTB with bottom getter and black plates; one 1961 May, the other 1963 Nov
- CBS 6SN7GTB with 2-Hole black plates and bottom "D" getter; 1956 Week 22
I have these on hand, just haven't gotten to them yet. - Psvane UK-6SN7
- Raytheon 6SN7GTB medium bottle with black plates, halo getter
Let me know if there are any others that you would recommend I try...
So how much difference do you hear among all of those? Are you going to settle on one set or just keep rolling them? Yes, and I for one might appreciate a blunt rather than bull response. C'mon LuisV,  Please be blunt when reviewing such a mountain of tubes before you. |
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Post by LuisV on Dec 15, 2020 15:29:35 GMT -5
So how much difference do you hear among all of those? Are you going to settle on one set or just keep rolling them? I was going to hold off passing judgement until I had a chance to bake the medium bottle Raytheon and Psvanes... I'm trying to see which ones I prefer as NOS tubes are getting more expensive, so I figured once I find a couple I like, I would buy a few pairs of each to have spares. Compared to the other modes of the Freya, I prefer the tube mode. Don't get me wrong the Tung Sols sound great and the Electro Harmonix are not far behind; however, there's something special the NOS tubes provide, that the newer tubes miss. Below is a quick and dirty, in order of listening: - Tung Sols - quad set sounded dynamic, punchy with less of that "tube" sound, if that makes sense. I've seen / heard Youtubers call the sound signature of the Tung Sols as the "new" tube sound; not warm, not clinical nor cold sounding. Just enough "color" to take the edginess off, but different when comparing the sound to older tubes.
- Electro Harmonix - similar to the Tung Sols, but less of a sounds stage, sounded more "boxed" in. If I didn't have the Tung Sols, these would be fine as far as inexpensive set of readily available tubes.
- GEs - slightly less bass than the Tung Sols, but warmer... started to get the "color" that I prefer. I kept them on the left side, while baking the other tubes I have as I felt they were a better match than the Tung Sols.
- Raytheon - now we're talking... best tube thus far. Wider, deeper sound stage, great vocals, fantastic guitar, zero complaints. More presence to the music... just all around better.
- RCAs - step down from the Raytheon; more like the GEs.
- CBS - just started cooking, but thus far, reminds me of the Raytheon... only time will tell.
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Post by LuisV on Dec 15, 2020 15:32:53 GMT -5
Yes, and I for one might appreciate a blunt rather than bull response. C'mon LuisV, Please be blunt when reviewing such a mountain of tubes before you. So far... the Ratheons are the schiit, but the CBS are starting to put a smile on my face. |
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Post by LuisV on Dec 17, 2020 18:16:09 GMT -5
Yeah... I might have a little bit of experience with that combination of gear... LOL What do you want to know? Loads of power for any Klipsch (I ran Heresy III's), full dynamic sound, definite tube sound, both from the preamp and the amps. Give the amps room to breath as they get quite warm even just idling. Sit back and enjoy! One bit of advice... Get some nice NOS tubes. At a bare minimum, get a matched pair of NOS Raytheon/Baldwin 6SN7's and put them on the right side on the Freya+, and get a set of tube socket savers, also called tube risers. If you look closely at the pics, you see that my tubes sit "on top" of the Freya+, not down in it like stock. Anyone have experience with Sylvania VT-231 JAN-CHS-6SN7GT 1940's Era 2-Hole "BAD BOY" tubes in the Freya? |
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Post by LuisV on Dec 19, 2020 8:29:13 GMT -5
Picked up a matched pair of Sylvania 6SN7GTA tubes with 3-Hole Bad Boy Plates instead of the more expensive JAN-CHS. These are from 1954 Week 13.  |
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Post by vcautokid on Dec 19, 2020 9:08:14 GMT -5
Now let’s really stir up the pot. Freya + with Multi Bit DAC inside. Oh my and a phono board too! That is all the Schiit you need.
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Post by LuisV on Dec 19, 2020 12:42:27 GMT -5
Mow let’s really stir up the pot. Freya + with Multi Bit DAC inside. Oh my and a phono board too! That is all the Schiit you need. The Schiit would hit the fan if they designed a modular Freya that accepted DAC and Phono boards.... just saying. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2020 13:24:34 GMT -5
Mow let’s really stir up the pot. Freya + with Multi Bit DAC inside. Oh my and a phono board too! That is all the Schiit you need. The Schiit would hit the fan if they designed a modular Freya that accepted DAC and Phono boards.... just saying. You sure are a Schiit talker bro. Just say'n love your enthusiasm! Enjoy, Shim |
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Post by audiobill on Dec 19, 2020 13:54:49 GMT -5
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Post by LuisV on Dec 19, 2020 19:03:29 GMT -5
The Schiit would hit the fan if they designed a modular Freya that accepted DAC and Phono boards.... just saying. You sure are a Schiit talker bro. Just say'n love your enthusiasm! Enjoy, Shim The Freya / Vidar combo puts a big smile on my face, so yea... I go ape Schiit from time to time...  |
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