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Post by monkumonku on Jan 6, 2021 19:12:21 GMT -5
Well that's good! I hope you don't have the same kind of experience Boomzilla had! Wait....what? What happened to the Boom? I didn't see that........
He had ordered some Tektons and I believe he paid in advance for them and it took forever to get them. He had to finally pretty much threaten the guy before he got any satisfaction. At least that's how I recall the thread, which I think back around November or December. |
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Post by selind40 on Jan 6, 2021 19:42:50 GMT -5
Wait....what? What happened to the Boom? I didn't see that........
He had ordered some Tektons and I believe he paid in advance for them and it took forever to get them. He had to finally pretty much threaten the guy before he got any satisfaction. At least that's how I recall the thread, which I think back around November or December. Ohhhhh dang........I had other choices in the price range, but after reading some stuff decided to try them, hope I'm not disappointed. If so, I won't ship them back...it'll be very costly.....I offer them up locally at a price that is VERY reasonable. |
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Post by LuisV on Jan 7, 2021 11:30:31 GMT -5
When I purchased mine and the Vidars, the delays I experienced was due to COVID. Acquiring parts from local suppliers within California; as I'm sure you know, they had high numbers and dealt with numerous lockdowns. I get it, just frustrating..... a month or more to even have an idea of it's possible production and possible delivery.....and all the while these tubes and tube extenders are piling up on the kitchen table...Lol Frustrating for sure... I think I waited 3 weeks for my order to ship and then another week for transit. |
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Post by chops on Jan 7, 2021 18:47:11 GMT -5
piss poor manufacturing model on Schiits part IMHO. That's highly unfair of you to say that about Schiit. Like monkumonku said, they get the majority of their components and supplies locally, or at least somewhere in this country. All of those suppliers have been hit with Covid and high demands, as has Schiit and just about every other small company out there. Even Tekton has been seeing much longer delays due to Covid. They're small operations with with few employees. And that's just these two companies. There's plenty others out there dealing with the same kind of delays. It has absolutely nothing to with poor business models or mismanagement. It has everything to do with the year 2020, Covid and the rest of the $hit show that's still going on. Yes, it's frustrating having to wait longer and longer for stuff you ordered to arrive, but there's not much we can do about it. Heck, I'm just now getting a couple things here and there in the mail that were ordered back in Sept and Oct. As they used to say in the military, you just have to "hurry up and wait". |
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Post by selind40 on Jan 7, 2021 21:50:27 GMT -5
piss poor manufacturing model on Schiits part IMHO. That's highly unfair of you to say that about Schiit. Like monkumonku said, they get the majority of their components and supplies locally, or at least somewhere in this country. All of those suppliers have been hit with Covid and high demands, as has Schiit and just about every other small company out there. Even Tekton has been seeing much longer delays due to Covid. They're small operations with with few employees. And that's just these two companies. There's plenty others out there dealing with the same kind of delays. It has absolutely nothing to with poor business models or mismanagement. It has everything to do with the year 2020, Covid and the rest of the $hit show that's still going on. Yes, it's frustrating having to wait longer and longer for stuff you ordered to arrive, but there's not much we can do about it. Heck, I'm just now getting a couple things here and there in the mail that were ordered back in Sept and Oct. As they used to say in the military, you just have to "hurry up and wait". It was MY opinion....and you just shared yours. Thanks. |
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Post by chops on Jan 9, 2021 6:43:41 GMT -5
That's highly unfair of you to say that about Schiit. Like monkumonku said, they get the majority of their components and supplies locally, or at least somewhere in this country. All of those suppliers have been hit with Covid and high demands, as has Schiit and just about every other small company out there. Even Tekton has been seeing much longer delays due to Covid. They're small operations with with few employees. And that's just these two companies. There's plenty others out there dealing with the same kind of delays. It has absolutely nothing to with poor business models or mismanagement. It has everything to do with the year 2020, Covid and the rest of the $hit show that's still going on. Yes, it's frustrating having to wait longer and longer for stuff you ordered to arrive, but there's not much we can do about it. Heck, I'm just now getting a couple things here and there in the mail that were ordered back in Sept and Oct. As they used to say in the military, you just have to "hurry up and wait". It was MY opinion....and you just shared yours. Thanks. Except mine isn't an opinion, it's actual facts... Actual common sense even. |
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Post by selind40 on Jan 9, 2021 9:09:49 GMT -5
It was MY opinion....and you just shared yours. Thanks. Except mine isn't an opinion, it's actual facts... Actual common sense even. You're awesome....keep up the good work! Thanks. |
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Post by selind40 on Jan 18, 2021 19:22:08 GMT -5
Has anyone used an XLR splitter ( like the B1X2 ) from Emotiva to run an additional amp ( or pair of PA-1's ) using the Freya+?? I'd like to use my XPA-2 and the PA-1's on the new Tekton's...the reply I got from Schiit said to NOT do this. Just curious what others think. Thanks.
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Post by vcautokid on Jan 19, 2021 6:50:55 GMT -5
If Schiit said not to do this. Probably would follow their instructions. Freya comes with a 5 years parts and labor warranty less the tubes of course. It is possible but not swearing to it that the Freya was not designed to run balanced x two sets. If memory serves unbalanced runs concurrent with the balanced output and is isolated from balanced output so you could run one amplifier balanced and the other unabalanced. I am coming from the warranty perspective as if something goes wrong later and traced to running balanced times two pairs balanced it could be problematic. I wouldn’t chance it since the manufacturer does not recommend this action of split balanced outs.
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Post by vcautokid on Jan 19, 2021 6:53:40 GMT -5
Looking at Magni 3+ or Magni Heresy. Don’t really want to spring for another Asgard 3 as most listening is lower levels anyway. But discrete or Op Amps is the question. So much fun this Schiit.
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Post by tropicallutefisk on Jan 19, 2021 8:36:59 GMT -5
Has anyone used an XLR splitter ( like the B1X2 ) from Emotiva to run an additional amp ( or pair of PA-1's ) using the Freya+?? I'd like to use my XPA-2 and the PA-1's on the new Tekton's...the reply I got from Schiit said to NOT do this. Just curious what others think. Thanks. Let me make sure I understand. You want to split the output signal from your Freya preamp so you can biamp your Tektons? I can't see why this would be a problem. I split the output signal, but for a different reason. My subwoofer does not have speaker level inputs so I split the signal and run one cable to the amplifier and the other to the subwoofer. I have been doing this for about a year with no issues. In effect this is no different than what you are hoping to do; one signal to two amps. |
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Post by cawgijoe on Jan 19, 2021 8:44:14 GMT -5
Looking at Magni 3+ or Magni Heresy. Don’t really want to spring for another Asgard 3 as most listening is lower levels anyway. But discrete or Op Amps is the question. So much fun this Schiit. I have the Magni 3 and really like it. Good price and does the job. |
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Post by selind40 on Jan 19, 2021 9:14:12 GMT -5
Has anyone used an XLR splitter ( like the B1X2 ) from Emotiva to run an additional amp ( or pair of PA-1's ) using the Freya+?? I'd like to use my XPA-2 and the PA-1's on the new Tekton's...the reply I got from Schiit said to NOT do this. Just curious what others think. Thanks. Let me make sure I understand. You want to split the output signal from your Freya preamp so you can biamp your Tektons? I can't see why this would be a problem. I split the output signal, but for a different reason. My subwoofer does not have speaker level inputs so I split the signal and run one cable to the amplifier and the other to the subwoofer. I have been doing this for about a year with no issues. In effect this is no different than what you are hoping to do; one signal to two amps. Exactly what I was wanting to do....I did it with the T2+ and the XSP-1.....but when I asked this question to Schiit, they responded that I should not split the only balanced output using the little Emotiva B1X2.....I bought the 2 of them just for this purpose. |
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Post by tropicallutefisk on Jan 19, 2021 11:58:43 GMT -5
I use the B1X2 splitters and they have done exactly what they are supposed to do. Nothing more, nothing less. Just splits the signal without introducing any noise.
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Post by LuisV on Mar 2, 2021 14:23:06 GMT -5
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Post by LuisV on Mar 9, 2021 20:06:52 GMT -5
Latest from Jason Stoddard... Virtual Schiitr Meet: Texmageddon and Afterwards, Supply Chains, and Lokis Oh My! Hey all, It's that time again! Join us at 4PM PST on Wednesday, March 10 to hear me talking about Texas, backorders, supply chain, and the Lokis! It's been a heck of a ride, but we now have an official start-up day for Corpus Christi production, we have others joining us in town, and we are in the middle of making things better in backorder-land. We hope. We'll see. Enough caveats? Maybe. You'll be able to watch on our YouTube channel or on Facebook, whichever floats your boat: YouTube: www.youtube.com/channel/UCZqCWt2_qqB-UD0-pcPpxCwFacebook: www.facebook.com/Schiit/Talk to you soon! All the best, Jason |
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Post by brutiarti on Mar 10, 2021 11:19:57 GMT -5
It looks like sticking to 2Ch paid off for them. Latest from Jason Stoddard... Virtual Schiitr Meet: Texmageddon and Afterwards, Supply Chains, and Lokis Oh My! Hey all, It's that time again! Join us at 4PM PST on Wednesday, March 10 to hear me talking about Texas, backorders, supply chain, and the Lokis! It's been a heck of a ride, but we now have an official start-up day for Corpus Christi production, we have others joining us in town, and we are in the middle of making things better in backorder-land. We hope. We'll see. Enough caveats? Maybe. You'll be able to watch on our YouTube channel or on Facebook, whichever floats your boat: YouTube: www.youtube.com/channel/UCZqCWt2_qqB-UD0-pcPpxCwFacebook: www.facebook.com/Schiit/Talk to you soon! All the best, Jason |
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Post by LuisV on Mar 10, 2021 13:01:12 GMT -5
It looks like sticking to 2Ch paid off for them. 100% agreed... they have a wide selection of quality gear that fit into various budgets. I started with a modest headphone setup with a Schiit Vali and Modi and eventually upgraded to a Lyr 3 with MultiBit card. When I was looking for a 2 channel setup in a dedicated room, I naturally turned to them and the rest is history... zero regrets. |
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Post by foggy1956 on Mar 10, 2021 13:34:20 GMT -5
It looks like sticking to 2Ch paid off for them. 100% agreed... they have a wide selection of quality gear that fit into various budgets. I started with a modest headphone setup with a Schiit Vali and Modi and eventually upgraded to a Lyr 3 with MultiBit card. When I was looking for a 2 channel setup in a dedicated room, I naturally turned to them and the rest is history... zero regrets. Love my Modi Multibit, want to stick it in my main system and compare it to the DAC in my XMC-2 when time permits. |
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Post by KeithL on Mar 10, 2021 16:09:06 GMT -5
In general, with most equipment, using a passive splitter will have almost no effect on the signal, except maybe a slight drop in level.
There are only three reasons why using a passive splitter on the output of any line level device MIGHT be a problem... But, to be honest, they're all pretty unlikely...
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If the source has a very high output impedance, and the loads are relatively low, then you might load down the output.
If this happens it could cause a lower output signal level, and maybe even some distortion. However this is very unlikely with modern solid state gear. (Although pretty common with vintage tube gear and maybe some modern tube gear as well.)
2) If you're running somewhat long cables to each device then any of those cables might pick up noise. And, since they're all connected together, that noise will affect everything that's connected to that output. (Again, pretty uncommon with modern solid state gear, but more common with tube gear, and especially old tube gear.)
3) SOME devices have inputs that don't behave well when you turn them off...
If the input of one device poses a non-linear load to the source when you turn that device off... Then it may cause distortion on the other devices connected to that splitter (the non-linear load distorts the signal feeding the other devices). It's also possible that the input of one device may act as a source of noise or DC offset that may affect the others.
(These are all real possibilities... but they are all pretty rare.).
All of these are probably more likely with a balanced connection... Because you add the possibility that one or more of the inputs isn't really balanced... And, to a degree, it may reduce the noise cancelling benefits of the balanced connection, simply because of more wires being involved.)
multiple devices connected using a splitter, you may hear distortion from one when another is turned off.
Has anyone used an XLR splitter ( like the B1X2 ) from Emotiva to run an additional amp ( or pair of PA-1's ) using the Freya+?? I'd like to use my XPA-2 and the PA-1's on the new Tekton's...the reply I got from Schiit said to NOT do this. Just curious what others think. Thanks. Let me make sure I understand. You want to split the output signal from your Freya preamp so you can biamp your Tektons? I can't see why this would be a problem. I split the output signal, but for a different reason. My subwoofer does not have speaker level inputs so I split the signal and run one cable to the amplifier and the other to the subwoofer. I have been doing this for about a year with no issues. In effect this is no different than what you are hoping to do; one signal to two amps. |
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