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Post by 405x5 on Jan 17, 2022 13:19:42 GMT -5
Listened to a doctor interviewed anonymously over the weekend about Covid (face blurred out and false named for his protection). He read a white page published from some insurance industry reporting group. It stated there has been an increase of working age deaths of 40% since the vaccinated population hit some ? percentage. He stated a 10% increase in working age people deaths is a once in a century event. A 40% increase in deaths are un-heard of before. He also talked about how people's white blood cell count is decreased significantly post-vax . That's scary, white blood cells are our immune system. The doctor is very concerned what that will cause over the next few years. I once sold health insurance (what was I thinking, hated it) but I learned a lot. If you ever want REAL data about humanity and the interaction of society on death, health, accidents and natural occurrences, insurance companies & their actuaries keep the best data possible. They are "betting" their existence, when they write an insurance policy, the odds are they will make money. All the doctors, politicians, talking heads and corporations can give their opinions, but REAL data doesn't lie. So if you ever want the truth about some statistical tracked occurrence, go to the actuaries, they don't care which direction an occurrence goes, they're going to "bet" their money accordingly. The industry actuary's white papers are what insurance companies use to write their policies. We deserve the truth, regardless what the truth is and I'm sure we're not get the truth from either side of the situation. Lying has become acceptable lately and people are dying. I have to wonder how they come up with those working age death statistics 📊 considering the STRESS some of that group are faced with….regarding what their CHILDREN 👧 are faced with under these impossible life circumstances.
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Post by DavidR on Jan 17, 2022 13:31:00 GMT -5
I have to wonder how they come up with those working age death statistics 📊 considering the STRESS some of that group are faced with….regarding what their CHILDREN 👧 are faced with under these impossible life circumstances. Don't wait for the MSM to tell because they won't. Research it. The info you desire is there to find.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jan 17, 2022 13:34:25 GMT -5
Washington State Department of Health COVID-19 Cases, Hospitalizations, and Deaths by Vaccination Status January 12, 2022Summary
Unvaccinated 12-34 year-olds in Washington are • 3 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 12-34 year-olds. • 8 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 12-34 year- olds. Unvaccinated 35-64 year-olds are • 4 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 35-64 year-olds. • 11 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 35-64 year- olds. Unvaccinated 65+ year-olds are • 6 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year-olds. • 11 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year- olds. • 15 times more likely to die of COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year-olds. www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/1600/coronavirus/data-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf
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Post by monkumonku on Jan 17, 2022 14:05:20 GMT -5
Washington State Department of Health COVID-19 Cases, Hospitalizations, and Deaths by Vaccination Status January 12, 2022Summary
Unvaccinated 12-34 year-olds in Washington are • 3 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 12-34 year-olds. • 8 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 12-34 year- olds. Unvaccinated 35-64 year-olds are • 4 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 35-64 year-olds. • 11 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 35-64 year- olds. Unvaccinated 65+ year-olds are • 6 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year-olds. • 11 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year- olds. • 15 times more likely to die of COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year-olds. www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/1600/coronavirus/data-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdfOne should also take into account the absolute numbers. While the multiples look high, the totals per 100,000 of population are relatively low. While those stats indicate there is a greater likelihood of being impacted by Covid if you are unvaccinated, the totals per 100,000 to me do not constitute a reason for mandated vaccinations. People should be able to make their own informed choices, weighing the risks versus rewards. The study also does not have any information on adverse reactions to the vaccine, something that also needs to be considered when making a decision.
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Post by housetech on Jan 17, 2022 14:06:11 GMT -5
405x5, They are concerned with trends. Depending what insurance policies they're writing, they will break down the data accordingly to how, when, why. Your question is legit- look at the suicide, divorces, crime, etc increases last year, society is suffering in so may ways due to Covid and those causes effect the working age population most. My guess is they're using the vax date as a reference point when the 40% increases hit their highest. Families are suffering, our society is unravelling and too many people are playing games, out for the all-mighty $ and failing to care of the ramifications of their actions. So many deaths we're seeing are a product of covid, whether they are from the virus or not. Just look around every where we go, people are scared. Fear causes stress, stress causes disease and usual behavior, it's all tied together- cause and effect. This is very serious and no time for stupid people to be playing games.
I buried my mother last Monday. She got covid a couple months ago, got through it quickly, but I believe the stress on her body caused heart failure. She was not well, Alzheimer's.
edit- I don't know for sure if she was vaxed or not, didn't ask the nursing home, nor have I gotten her death certificate yet... time & place for everything.
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Post by 405x5 on Jan 17, 2022 14:15:37 GMT -5
They are concerned with trends. Depending what insurance policies they're writing, they will break down the data accordingly to how, when, why. Your question is legit- look at the suicide, divorces, crime, etc increases last year, society is suffering in so may ways due to Covid and those causes effect the working age population most. My guess is they're using the vax date as a reference point when the 40% increases hit their highest. Families are suffering, our society is unravelling and too many people are playing games, out for the all-mighty $ and failing to care of the ramifications of their actions. So many deaths we're seeing are a product of covid, whether they are from the virus or not. Just look around every where we go, people are scared. Fear causes stress, stress causes disease and usual behavior, it's all tied together- cause and effect. This is very serious and no time for stupid people to be playing games. I buried my mother last Monday. She got covid a couple months ago, got through it quickly, but I believe the stress on her body caused heart failure. She was not well, Alzheimer's. Sorry to hear this and for your loss. We’re having enough trouble getting our kids through this time of life, even WITHOUT Covid, as society has collectively lost its mind. I do take heart that kids are actually very resilient, though it pains me to see them waiting for the bus dawning a mask 😷
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Post by DavidR on Jan 17, 2022 14:28:34 GMT -5
405x5, They are concerned with trends. Depending what insurance policies they're writing, they will break down the data accordingly to how, when, why. Your question is legit- look at the suicide, divorces, crime, etc increases last year, society is suffering in so may ways due to Covid and those causes effect the working age population most. My guess is they're using the vax date as a reference point when the 40% increases hit their highest. Families are suffering, our society is unravelling and too many people are playing games, out for the all-mighty $ and failing to care of the ramifications of their actions. So many deaths we're seeing are a product of covid, whether they are from the virus or not. Just look around every where we go, people are scared. Fear causes stress, stress causes disease and usual behavior, it's all tied together- cause and effect. This is very serious and no time for stupid people to be playing games. I buried my mother last Monday. She got covid a couple months ago, got through it quickly, but I believe the stress on her body caused heart failure. She was not well, Alzheimer's. My condolences. I'm dealing with fallout from the jab in my immediate family (will never hear me call it a vaccine). Things change when it strikes home.
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Post by gus4emo on Jan 19, 2022 21:09:07 GMT -5
I got my 2nd Moderna vaccine last week, both had no effects on me, a little soreness on the shot spot, and only because I forgot about it and I would bump into something, lol...
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Post by gus4emo on Jan 19, 2022 21:10:53 GMT -5
405x5, They are concerned with trends. Depending what insurance policies they're writing, they will break down the data accordingly to how, when, why. Your question is legit- look at the suicide, divorces, crime, etc increases last year, society is suffering in so may ways due to Covid and those causes effect the working age population most. My guess is they're using the vax date as a reference point when the 40% increases hit their highest. Families are suffering, our society is unravelling and too many people are playing games, out for the all-mighty $ and failing to care of the ramifications of their actions. So many deaths we're seeing are a product of covid, whether they are from the virus or not. Just look around every where we go, people are scared. Fear causes stress, stress causes disease and usual behavior, it's all tied together- cause and effect. This is very serious and no time for stupid people to be playing games. I buried my mother last Monday. She got covid a couple months ago, got through it quickly, but I believe the stress on her body caused heart failure. She was not well, Alzheimer's. My condolences. I'm dealing with fallout from the jab in my immediate family (will never hear me call it a vaccine). Things change when it strikes home.
She's with Jesus now, so is my mom, she passed 2 months ago.
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Post by ttocs on Jan 19, 2022 21:12:08 GMT -5
housetech My condolences for your Mother's passing. So sorry.
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Post by ttocs on Jan 19, 2022 21:13:22 GMT -5
Gus, sorry for your Mother's passing. My condolences.
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Post by DavidR on Jan 19, 2022 21:15:43 GMT -5
Sorry for your loss Gus. Knowing she is with Jesus should give you comfort. We shall all meet in the place where there is not darkness.
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Post by knucklehead on Jan 20, 2022 1:22:13 GMT -5
Listened to a doctor interviewed anonymously over the weekend about Covid (face blurred out and false named for his protection). He read a white page published from some insurance industry reporting group. It stated there has been an increase of working age deaths of 40% since the vaccinated population hit some ? percentage. He stated a 10% increase in working age people deaths is a once in a century event. A 40% increase in deaths are un-heard of before. He also talked about how people's white blood cell count is decreased significantly post-vax . That's scary, white blood cells are our immune system. The doctor is very concerned what that will cause over the next few years. I once sold health insurance (what was I thinking, hated it) but I learned a lot. If you ever want REAL data about humanity and the interaction of society on death, health, accidents and natural occurrences, insurance companies & their actuaries keep the best data possible. They are "betting" their existence, when they write an insurance policy, the odds are they will make money. All the doctors, politicians, talking heads and corporations can give their opinions, but REAL data doesn't lie. So if you ever want the truth about some statistical tracked occurrence, go to the actuaries, they don't care which direction an occurrence goes, they're going to "bet" their money accordingly. The industry actuary's white papers are what insurance companies use to write their policies. We deserve the truth, regardless what the truth is and I'm sure we're not get the truth from either side of the situation. Lying has become acceptable lately and people are dying. I have to wonder how they come up with those working age death statistics 📊 considering the STRESS some of that group are faced with….regarding what their CHILDREN 👧 are faced with under these impossible life circumstances. The numbers are just that, numbers, and the numbers are just that, dead people. If you're asking why those deaths are occurring, well, you can find the info if you really want to know. I have two sisters that have both taken 2 of the jabs, and one has had the booster as well. Both are now having heart problems, and one having shortness of breath also. Both were relatively healthy prior to the beginning of 2020. Two of my golfing buddies have wives with health problems, and yep, no prior problems before getting the jabs. One has a bad case of hives, the other has Bell's Palsy. One should think hard before taking these 'vaccines', something they ain't. It is mRNA human gene therapy. Why else would Pfizer plead with a court to take 75 years to trot out the white papers on their 'therapy'? The judge gave them 6 months to reveal those papers.
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Post by tropicallutefisk on Jan 20, 2022 6:38:14 GMT -5
Normally, I get ill about once every other year. I took the first Moderna shot in mid Sept. and just had a little muscle soreness the next day. Two weeks later I traveled to CA and got very ill with the worst head ache I've ever had, sore muscles, nausea and extreme fatigue. Two weeks later I got the second Moderna shot and experienced the same symptoms for two days. Finally, immediately after Christmas I came down with the same crud. So, in total, I was sick three times in three months. I don't have any evidence the shot caused this or conversely helped me get through the illnesses better or faster. However, anecdotally, this is very strange for me. My wife on the other hand, was advised by her doctor to avoid the jab due to her pre existing condition from a birth defect. She just got sick for the first time in a couple years. For her the symptoms were milder but her recovery has been longer. Also, neither of us get tested so this may not even be Covid. There is plenty of other crud going around too. In any case my condolences to those how have lost loved ones and may we all have a better year in 2022.
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Post by garbulky on Jan 20, 2022 11:02:13 GMT -5
I have to wonder how they come up with those working age death statistics 📊 considering the STRESS some of that group are faced with….regarding what their CHILDREN 👧 are faced with under these impossible life circumstances. The numbers are just that, numbers, and the numbers are just that, dead people. If you're asking why those deaths are occurring, well, you can find the info if you really want to know. I have two sisters that have both taken 2 of the jabs, and one has had the booster as well. Both are now having heart problems, and one having shortness of breath also. Both were relatively healthy prior to the beginning of 2020. Two of my golfing buddies have wives with health problems, and yep, no prior problems before getting the jabs. One has a bad case of hives, the other has Bell's Palsy. One should think hard before taking these 'vaccines', something they ain't. It is mRNA human gene therapy. Why else would Pfizer plead with a court to take 75 years to trot out the white papers on their 'therapy'? The judge gave them 6 months to reveal those papers. The vaccines are not mRNA human gene therapy. www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210719/covid-19-vaccines-not-gene-therapy
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Post by DavidR on Jan 20, 2022 11:30:41 GMT -5
The numbers are just that, numbers, and the numbers are just that, dead people. If you're asking why those deaths are occurring, well, you can find the info if you really want to know. I have two sisters that have both taken 2 of the jabs, and one has had the booster as well. Both are now having heart problems, and one having shortness of breath also. Both were relatively healthy prior to the beginning of 2020. Two of my golfing buddies have wives with health problems, and yep, no prior problems before getting the jabs. One has a bad case of hives, the other has Bell's Palsy. One should think hard before taking these 'vaccines', something they ain't. It is mRNA human gene therapy. Why else would Pfizer plead with a court to take 75 years to trot out the white papers on their 'therapy'? The judge gave them 6 months to reveal those papers. The vaccines are not mRNA human gene therapy. www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210719/covid-19-vaccines-not-gene-therapyOdd. The doctor who invented the mRNA gene therapy, Dr Robert Malone, says it is and said this should not be put into humans. I viewed him say this in an interview.
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Post by 405x5 on Jan 20, 2022 11:41:34 GMT -5
The numbers are just that, numbers, and the numbers are just that, dead people. If you're asking why those deaths are occurring, well, you can find the info if you really want to know. I have two sisters that have both taken 2 of the jabs, and one has had the booster as well. Both are now having heart problems, and one having shortness of breath also. Both were relatively healthy prior to the beginning of 2020. Two of my golfing buddies have wives with health problems, and yep, no prior problems before getting the jabs. One has a bad case of hives, the other has Bell's Palsy. One should think hard before taking these 'vaccines', something they ain't. It is mRNA human gene therapy. Why else would Pfizer plead with a court to take 75 years to trot out the white papers on their 'therapy'? The judge gave them 6 months to reveal those papers. The vaccines are not mRNA human gene therapy. www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210719/covid-19-vaccines-not-gene-therapyThat was a good read and makes perfect sense to me. I’ve done perfectly fine with the Moderna vaccine 💉 but had a bazaar “complication” (but not) by having a run-in with LYME DISEASE in the middle of this pandemic! (Had mentioned this somewhere here earlier). Diagnosis in Oct. and probably walked around with it for 18 months not realizing what was going on. Now all that mattered was that I got properly diagnosed thru blood work. 10 Days of Doxycycline and I’m a happy guy (a new man.) It appears we got rid of it without suffering permanent complications.
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Post by garbulky on Jan 20, 2022 11:49:41 GMT -5
Odd. The doctor who invented the mRNA gene therapy, Dr Robert Malone, says it is and said this should not be put into humans. I viewed him say this in an interview. He did not develop the COVID vaccines though he was part of the history that led to its development. Gene therapy has a specific definition. The Covid vaccines are not gene therapy.
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Post by rbk123 on Jan 20, 2022 11:59:19 GMT -5
I’ve done perfectly fine with the Moderna vaccine 💉 but had a bazaar “complication” (but not) by having a run-in with LYME DISEASE in the middle of this pandemic! That is good news as Lyme disease is extremely serious stuff.
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Post by knucklehead on Jan 20, 2022 12:17:53 GMT -5
The numbers are just that, numbers, and the numbers are just that, dead people. If you're asking why those deaths are occurring, well, you can find the info if you really want to know. I have two sisters that have both taken 2 of the jabs, and one has had the booster as well. Both are now having heart problems, and one having shortness of breath also. Both were relatively healthy prior to the beginning of 2020. Two of my golfing buddies have wives with health problems, and yep, no prior problems before getting the jabs. One has a bad case of hives, the other has Bell's Palsy. One should think hard before taking these 'vaccines', something they ain't. It is mRNA human gene therapy. Why else would Pfizer plead with a court to take 75 years to trot out the white papers on their 'therapy'? The judge gave them 6 months to reveal those papers. The vaccines are not mRNA human gene therapy. www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210719/covid-19-vaccines-not-gene-therapy medlineplus.gov/genetics/understanding/therapy/mrnavaccines/
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