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Post by 405x5 on Jan 20, 2022 12:18:15 GMT -5
I’ve done perfectly fine with the Moderna vaccine 💉 but had a bazaar “complication” (but not) by having a run-in with LYME DISEASE in the middle of this pandemic! That is good news as Lyme disease is extremely serious stuff. My toughest memory of that experience was having the ambulance crew essentially, writing me off for “dead” and initially refusing to transport me to the hospital fearing (I assume) Covid contamination/exposure. 15 months later, I’m perfectly fine having never gotten sick with Covid….life’s circumstances had me tested multiple times all negative with one result lost somehow by the lab. A registered letter reached my doorstep around a month after the fact. I should mention that after the Lyme positive result, I was 💯 percent better after only 2 days of that 10 day doxycycline regimen.
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Post by novisnick on Jan 20, 2022 12:22:15 GMT -5
That is good news as Lyme disease is extremely serious stuff. My toughest memory of that experience was having the ambulance crew essentially, writing me off for “dead” and initially refusing to transport me to the hospital fearing (I assume) Covid contamination/exposure. 15 months later, I’m perfectly fine having never gotten sick with Covid….life’s circumstances had me tested multiple times all negative with one result lost somehow by the lab. A registered letter reached my doorstep around a month after the fact. I should mention that after the Lyme positive result, I was 💯 percent better after only 2 days of that 10 day doxycycline regimen. I’m so greatful you are alive and well! 👍
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Post by 405x5 on Jan 20, 2022 12:27:21 GMT -5
My toughest memory of that experience was having the ambulance crew essentially, writing me off for “dead” and initially refusing to transport me to the hospital fearing (I assume) Covid contamination/exposure. 15 months later, I’m perfectly fine having never gotten sick with Covid….life’s circumstances had me tested multiple times all negative with one result lost somehow by the lab. A registered letter reached my doorstep around a month after the fact. I should mention that after the Lyme positive result, I was 💯 percent better after only 2 days of that 10 day doxycycline regimen. I’m so greatful you are alive and well! 👍 Thanks “Novisnick” A firsthand experience of fear and misunderstanding played out. My wife was the real hero…making sure those guys put me in the truck.
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Post by LCSeminole on Jan 20, 2022 12:31:30 GMT -5
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Post by LCSeminole on Jan 20, 2022 12:37:24 GMT -5
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I want to thank everyone here for not allowing this to spill over into a POLITICAL discussion. I also want to thank everyone for discussing this as ADULTs. As long as it stays this way, I won't have to delete this thread(per long standing Lounge Rules on Politics and Religion) or lock it.
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Post by housetech on Jan 20, 2022 12:55:32 GMT -5
Thx LCSeminole, I've tried very hard to avoid politics. I wish the morons in government & the medical world would do the same- our lives depend on REAL information to make decisions.
btw Thanks to all for the condolences.
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Post by novisnick on Jan 20, 2022 12:57:52 GMT -5
I’m so greatful you are alive and well! 👍 Thanks “Novisnick” A firsthand experience of fear and misunderstanding played out. My wife was the real hero…making sure those guys put me in the truck. Mrs is the only person in the world that will love you almost as much as our mothers. Lets call it a close second! 😁
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Post by drtrey3 on Jan 20, 2022 13:35:01 GMT -5
I am vaccinated and boosted, but Covid is everywhere I work and live in Nashville. I have been croaky for two days and as I was taking the test this morning was thinking I would be going home. But the test was negative, so my Barry White voice must be from something regular and not lethal! But if I popped positive it would be my third go round and I was gonna buy a lottery ticket.
Trey
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Post by garbulky on Jan 20, 2022 14:23:06 GMT -5
Yep. Medline is another good source of information.
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Post by 405x5 on Jan 20, 2022 14:23:30 GMT -5
I am vaccinated and boosted, but Covid is everywhere I work and live in Nashville. I have been croaky for two days and as I was taking the test this morning was thinking I would be going home. But the test was negative, so my Barry White voice must be from something regular and not lethal! But if I popped positive it would be my third go round and I was gonna buy a lottery ticket. Trey Whoa twice Covid 4 you?? (Did I read that correctly?)
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Post by garbulky on Jan 20, 2022 14:25:08 GMT -5
it's not semantics. They are mRNA vaccines not gene therapies. Why calling something gene therapy is dangerous because it gives people the impression that the vaccine will alter or replace your genes with other genes. Which these vaccines won't do. I've had to have this exact talk with my parents who wouldn't take the vaccine because they were afraid it was going to alter their genes. Gene therapy on the other hand has exciting possibilities, most which have not have been realized yet. Here's more about gene therapy: www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/gene-therapy/about/pac-20384619#:~:text=Gene%20therapy%20replaces%20a%20faulty,%2C%20diabetes%2C%20hemophilia%20and%20AIDS. And also.... DNA is what is in our genetic code in every cell. RNA is different from DNA. mRNA is also different from the above. They are part of the final steps before protein translation. mRNA cannot jump in to your DNA code. Other types of RNA: Ribosomal RNA (rRNA) and Transfer RNA (tRNA)
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Post by DavidR on Jan 20, 2022 14:41:30 GMT -5
So I guess you're saying Dr Malone doesn't understand his own invention.
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Post by garbulky on Jan 20, 2022 14:42:59 GMT -5
So I guess you're saying Dr Malone doesn't understand his own invention. I don't speak for him. He also didn't invent the vaccine. Instead of paying attention to singular people that can bolster up "alternate views", I suggest paying attention to scientific consensus. Look to statements by the NIH, CDC, FDA, AMA, WHO. Their track record is more reliable. Their statements tend to be reviewed by a variety of experts in their field. Science is not and (must not) be a democracy.
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Post by DavidR on Jan 20, 2022 14:53:19 GMT -5
They aren't vaccines per the original established definition. They are not safe nor effective. NIH, CDC, FDA and AMA may have been reliable at one time. No longer.
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Post by housetech on Jan 20, 2022 15:01:30 GMT -5
garbulky, I respect your opinion but don't respect or trust gov't agencies any more. Follow the money, it's always about the money. Fauci has made $millions during this pandemic and has been wrong about everything. I want to know why the USA & the world hasn't held communist China responsible for what they did. The W.H.O. is a joke.
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Post by garbulky on Jan 20, 2022 15:10:48 GMT -5
They aren't vaccines per the original established definition. Hmmm...do you have an established definition? They are. They are. They are extremely effective against the original Coronavirus. Against the current strain they don't protect against symptoms or transmission. But they do substantially reduce hospitalization, death, and transmission compared to no vaccine. I.e. protects against substantial harm. Scientific consensus by experts - which they still are - is arguably our most important and reliable tool.
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Post by DavidR on Jan 20, 2022 15:13:06 GMT -5
If you look hard enough you can 'discover' that there were patents taken out on these 'vaccines' a couple years before Covid19 was released.
-please spare me the narrative that the almost impossible jump from bat to human is what happened-
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Post by garbulky on Jan 20, 2022 15:17:14 GMT -5
If you look hard enough you can 'discover' that there were patents taken out on these 'vaccines' a couple years before Covid19 was released. -please spare me the narrative that the almost impossible jump from bat to human is what happened- I've looked hard...at reliable sources. And that's not a snide remark. I have training and education to be able to do this. I have spent a lot of time researching the pandemic and vaccinations.
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Post by 405x5 on Jan 20, 2022 15:28:11 GMT -5
“I want to know why the USA & the world hasn't held communist China responsible for what they did.” I’m with you on that (the hammer 🔨 should fall Hard!)
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Post by DavidR on Jan 20, 2022 15:42:46 GMT -5
They aren't vaccines per the original established definition. Hmmm...do you have an established definition? They are. They are. They are extremely effective against the original Coronavirus. Against the current strain they don't protect against symptoms or transmission. But they do substantially reduce hospitalization, death, and transmission compared to no vaccine. I.e. protects against substantial harm. Scientific consensus by experts - which they still are - is arguably our most important and reliable tool. You can believe what YOU want. First off I want to thank you for reaching out to me via a PM on my wife. That meant a lot to me. However, I was bewildered with your statement on Ivermectin. My wife is a doctor and an attorney (non legal practicing since the birth of our son). My wife works for a large insurance company and at the start of the plandemic both HCQ and Ivermectin were being approved and worked as treatments against the virus. What happened is hospitalists came out and spoke out against those cures. Why? MONEY. It was mostly hospitalists as they are incentivized. I don't trust big Pharma they wanted their money for their shitball.
After our last PM my wife ended up back in the hospital and was there for 31/2 weeks with two, simultaneous, intravenous (sp?) antibiotics to cure the infected abscesses due to the sloppy work of the surgeon who did her gall bladder surgery. There came a point where I wondered if I had to tell my son that his mom may never come home. She's had about 11 radio-logical interventions to place drains in her to drain the crud. I asked the internal medicine doctor if she was ever going to get better. He said "we are trying'. They wanted her to go to a higher level of care but the hospital turned her down due to staffing issues. She was finally released late Christmas Eve with oral antibiotics. This began a week before Thanksgiving.
She had a follow up with the internal medicine doctor last week. She still needs help getting up and down stairs, eats little and is constantly nauseous even thou she takes a med for it. I asked the doctor if this amount of time is out of the ordinary for clearing up an infection. He said it wasn't normal. SO, I asked about the elephant in the room: and asked him if the J&J jab she took affected her immune system. He didn't speak for a few moments and said he was not supposed to address those questions but said "yes, it could be". I'll also mention they found that her heart is enlarged while doing a lung x-ray. Now we will have our son checked as they both went for the shitball together.
I remember when my wife was pondering getting a vaxx and said the J&J was most like a traditional vaccine but the others (mRNA) were not. So she recognized that even the J&J was not a traditional vaccine. I'm done with this discussion as I firmly believe these shitballs are of no use and I remain the most healthy in the family and I am unvaccinated and unafraid.
Follow the money.
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