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Post by cwmcobra on Sept 28, 2021 13:16:20 GMT -5
Thanks guys! Very useful info. I'll add that one of the additional reasons I'm leaning toward the Lutron Caseta is it's the only switch I've found that's available in black. My HT will be essentially a bat cave and white switches just won't cut it...
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Post by cwmcobra on Oct 3, 2021 18:09:28 GMT -5
So I guess this begs the question… Anyone have a Harmony Hub based remote, and still using FW 2.2 or earlier? Would you be willing to run a short test? I have an XMC-2 received almost a year ago and tucked away in its box. I unpacked it, fired it up and confirmed 2.1 firmware installed. I also just purchased a Harmony Elite, so am able to do the testing that AudioHTIT suggests. I've tested the two following scenarios in both Low Power Standby and Video Remains On modes with the same results. Test 1 using Input Buttons: * Powered up (was shut down on HDMI 1 previously) - Waited until several seconds after the RETHINK HI-END screen changed to display data - Pressed Input 2 - Display changed to HDMI 2, then to the data display and was set to HDMI 2 for both audio and video * Shut down * Powered up (was shut down on HDMI 2 previously) - Waited until several seconds after the RETHINK HI-END screen changed to display data - Pressed Input 3 - Display changed to HDMI 3, then to the data display and was set to HDMI 3 for both audio and video * Shut down Test 2 using HDMI Input Buttons: * Powered up (was shut down on HDMI 4 previously) - Waited until several seconds after the RETHINK HI-END screen changed to display data - Pressed Input HDMI2 - Display changed to HDMI 2, then to the data display and was set to HDMI 2 for both audio and video * Shut down * Powered up (was shut down on HDMI 2 previously) - Waited until several seconds after the RETHINK HI-END screen changed to display data - Pressed Input HDMI3 - Display changed to HDMI 3, then to the data display and was set to HDMI 3 for both audio and video * Shut down So, it seems that, at least with FW 2.1, the problem of the input switching back to HDMI 1 when starting up in LPS mode did not exist. Looks like the culprit with this particular issue is the latest G3P firmware. Hopefully Emotiva can resolve this in a future firmware update. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 4, 2021 20:27:39 GMT -5
Ok, I’m having a few new issues today, but one of them is that I can no longer control my RMC’s Zone 2 from my Harmony Hub directly wired to the IR input. The Hub still controls the Main Zone fine this way. I’m still using the XMC-1 (Zone 2) device for this control. I recently noticed that some of my Zone 2 functions weren’t working, but today I realized that the Harmony can’t control Zone 2 period. I can still control Z2 with the Emotiva Remote App. This seems like it might be another 2.3 issue, can anyone confirm or refute this … geebo ? |
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Post by geebo on Oct 4, 2021 23:05:56 GMT -5
Ok, I’m having a few new issues today, but one of them is that I can no longer control my RMC’s Zone 2 from my Harmony Hub directly wired to the IR input. The Hub still controls the Main Zone fine this way. I’m still using the XMC-1 (Zone 2) device for this control. I recently noticed that some of my Zone 2 functions weren’t working, but today I realized that the Harmony can’t control Zone 2 period. I can still control Z2 with the Emotiva Remote App. This seems like it might be another 2.3 issue, can anyone confirm or refute this … geebo ? I had no Zone 2 controls on my Elite so I added the XMC-1 Zone 2 device from the Harmony site. I was able to turn Zone2 on, adjust Zone2 volume and change Zone2 input. Is there something specific you want me to try? |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 4, 2021 23:46:53 GMT -5
Ok, I’m having a few new issues today, but one of them is that I can no longer control my RMC’s Zone 2 from my Harmony Hub directly wired to the IR input. The Hub still controls the Main Zone fine this way. I’m still using the XMC-1 (Zone 2) device for this control. I recently noticed that some of my Zone 2 functions weren’t working, but today I realized that the Harmony can’t control Zone 2 period. I can still control Z2 with the Emotiva Remote App. This seems like it might be another 2.3 issue, can anyone confirm or refute this … geebo ? I had no Zone 2 controls on my Elite so I added the XMC-1 Zone 2 device from the Harmony site. I was able to turn Zone2 on, adjust Zone2 volume and change Zone2 input. Is there something specific you want me to try? No, if you can do that, then there’s something going on with my setup, I can’t do anything with Zone 2. Thanks for testing! |
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Post by geebo on Oct 4, 2021 23:53:20 GMT -5
I had no Zone 2 controls on my Elite so I added the XMC-1 Zone 2 device from the Harmony site. I was able to turn Zone2 on, adjust Zone2 volume and change Zone2 input. Is there something specific you want me to try? No, if you can do that, then there’s something going on with my setup, I can’t do anything with Zone 2. Thanks for testing! Okay but if you come across anything you want me to try I still have it loaded on my remote. |
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Post by cwmcobra on Oct 5, 2021 6:30:56 GMT -5
Are you guys able to program your systems so that when you press pause while watching a movie the lights automatically come on? And go off again when you resume? I've read that this can be a problem with the Lutron system, but wondering what your experiences have been?
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 5, 2021 10:21:33 GMT -5
Are you guys able to program your systems so that when you press pause while watching a movie the lights automatically come on? And go off again when you resume? I've read that this can be a problem with the Lutron system, but wondering what your experiences have been? I’ve never tried to do anything on pause, and I don’t know if there’s a way to have Harmony ‘listen’ for a pause (but honestly I’ve never thought about it). It might be possible to create a ‘Pause Movie” activity that could do a variety of things, and when the activity is ended reverse what was done. What I’d wonder about is at that point there might not be any activity running. Related to my post above, I used to have an ‘Add Zone 2’ activity, but it left me without my current activity — what’s needed is a Hierarchical Activity Structure (patent pending) that falls back to a previous Activity when it’s complete. Might be worth a visit to the Logitech forum, haven’t been there in some time, but there were some sharp people that would sometimes suggest solutions. Maybe this is a common thing and I’m just not aware of it. |
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Post by cwmcobra on Oct 5, 2021 10:54:27 GMT -5
Are you guys able to program your systems so that when you press pause while watching a movie the lights automatically come on? And go off again when you resume? I've read that this can be a problem with the Lutron system, but wondering what your experiences have been? I’ve never tried to do anything on pause, and I don’t know if there’s a way to have Harmony ‘listen’ for a pause (but honestly I’ve never thought about it). It might be possible to create a ‘Pause Movie” activity that could do a variety of things, and when the activity is ended reverse what was done. What I’d wonder about is at that point there might not be any activity running. Related to my post above, I used to have an ‘Add Zone 2’ activity, but it left me without my current activity — what’s needed is a Hierarchical Activity Structure (patent pending) that falls back to a previous Activity when it’s complete. Might be worth a visit to the Logitech forum, haven’t been there in some time, but there were some sharp people that would sometimes suggest solutions. Maybe this is a common thing and I’m just not aware of it. Thanks for the response. I had a post from someone in my Home Theater build thread on AVSForums and he claims to have a solution if interested. Here's his response: The solution that I'm using is called Harmony Span. (See: GitHub - AShifter/harmony-span: A Node.JS application that allows you to trigger external webhooks from your Logitech Harmony Hub and compatible remotes.. There's also a semi-helpful YouTube video at youtu.be/W59Ae5jUl2w
While it takes a bit of effort to get it set up, it's very stable and transparent once everything is in place. Basically, you run the Harmony Span app on a computer in your network. It shows up in the Harmony app as a virtual Roku "device", that you can integrate into your existing activities. (For example, when I hit the Pause button in my 'Watch A Movie' activity, it pauses the movie and sends a command that's mapped to a specific button on the virtual Roku device.) Harmony Span then converts those button commands to webhooks, which you link to IFTTT to interact with your specific lighting platform.
It sounds worse than it is, but once you get the Harmony Span app running and connected to both the Harmony end and the IFTTT end, mapping the buttons and getting everything dialed in is relatively quick and painless. And the beauty is that it should work fairly seamlessly with anything that supports webhook integration.
Check out the links and let me know if you've got any questions once you've gone through that info a few times. Happy to answer any questions as best I can.Note that he's an XMC-2 user, so I'm hopeful that this might work for us. I haven't looked through the process yet, so I'm not endorsing it at this point. And full disclosure, I've never heard of webhooks before.  |
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Post by millst on Oct 5, 2021 12:28:58 GMT -5
My Zone 2 controls continue to work okay. I added them a few months back, when I got the XMC-2.
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Post by illusion8055 on Oct 5, 2021 14:15:58 GMT -5
Hey Everybody,
I started another thread on the subject, but it didn’t get much traction. This seems to be the most active thread on remotes.
So I quickly browsed the thread and it seems that the solution I’m looking for will also address a lot of ideas and issues you hve with using a Harmony as your main control.
I’ve been falling in love with HomeAssistant. It truly is the best Home Automation software out there. It’s open source and best of all, FREE.
It already has integrations for many smart home standards and brands, and the platform is getting updated weekly. And everything can be automated.
I could go on, and on about the virtues, but I encourage you all to check it out.
Now, the only thing, as Emotiva owners, that we would need, would be for someone to code an Integration to allow us to control our Emo’s over IP. I would do it myself if it weren’t way above my coding skill set.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 5, 2021 20:24:35 GMT -5
Hey Everybody, I started another thread on the subject, but it didn’t get much traction. This seems to be the most active thread on remotes. So I quickly browsed the thread and it seems that the solution I’m looking for will also address a lot of ideas and issues you hve with using a Harmony as your main control. I’ve been falling in love with HomeAssistant. It truly is the best Home Automation software out there. It’s open source and best of all, FREE. It already has integrations for many smart home standards and brands, and the platform is getting updated weekly. And everything can be automated. I could go on, and on about the virtues, but I encourage you all to check it out. Now, the only thing, as Emotiva owners, that we would need, would be for someone to code an Integration to allow us to control our Emo’s over IP. I would do it myself if it weren’t way above my coding skill set. I saw your thread, and am definitely interested, but as far as 'Checking it out', I think you need to tell us what you've done. I typically find there is only so much I can do with a product and find that to truly check it out, I need to buy it and try to make it do what I want and find out it either works, or it doesn't. I'm not quite there yet. As for the Emotiva IP 'Driver', that seems to be the rub with any product. For instance there's no Emotiva IP Driver for Harmony, so I used hardwired IR, yet there is a Harmony IP Driver for my Sony TV, and my DirecTV client. I've always wondered if Sony, Logitech, or a 3rd Party (user) wrote the driver. Have you integrated it with anything like HomeKit, or Alexa? Do you have IP drivers for all your other products? Are they open source or do manufactures participate and help write them. But the other thread is the place to talk about this, it's ok to 'advertise' here, but we don't want this thread to veer off the Harmony track. So feel free to answer there and give that thread a bump. |
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Post by millst on Oct 6, 2021 13:10:35 GMT -5
Guessing your not having much luck because you need someone that is adept at programming, uses HomeAssistant, and owns an Emotiva processor. Probably a rare combo.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 22, 2021 10:48:47 GMT -5
No, if you can do that, then there’s something going on with my setup, I can’t do anything with Zone 2. Thanks for testing! Okay but if you come across anything you want me to try I still have it loaded on my remote. My Z2 has started working again, possibly needed a power off which was facilitated by PG&E a couple weeks ago. 😊 |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 22, 2021 10:53:51 GMT -5
Does anyone have a Zwave motion sensor working with their Harmony Hub extender? I’d like to trigger some lights with motion. I recently tried the Zooz outdoor sensor, and while it pairs with the hub, it then states it’s not compatible. I’m willing to build a box to protect the unit from rain and sun if I can’t find an outdoor unit that works.
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Post by carbonsummit on Dec 16, 2021 19:45:47 GMT -5
Forgive me for not reading all the posts and just asking.
Do you guys find a certain power on sequence that works better to avoid handshake issues?
RMC-1 first, TV first, source first? What second and what last?
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Post by carbonsummit on Dec 16, 2021 19:47:34 GMT -5
And any delays between steps?
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Post by AudioHTIT on Feb 1, 2022 18:01:12 GMT -5
Harmony Hub users may have noticed that with iOS / iPadOS 15, the Harmony App’s ‘hard button’ volume controls stopped working — this is where you can use your iPhone’s or iPad’s volume control to change your system’s volume. App update 5.7.12 came out last week that fixed this, if you have your Apps set to auto-update you should already have the update.  |
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Post by msimanyi on Mar 8, 2022 15:07:53 GMT -5
Posting here because my comment in the sticky Dirac thread seems too far off topic.
Recap: I've been having many power-on issues waking my RMC-1 from Video Remains On sleep after updating to firmware 2.5. My only inputs currently are a DirecTV DVR and an AppleTV 4k, the model released Spring 2021. CEC is disabled on the RMC, and I installed the HDMI adapters that block CEC on the AppleTV and DVR. Those didn't help.
I had been starting the RMC first, then the TV. I leave the DVR and AppleTV on all the time. I changed the order so the TV came on first, then the RMC. That actually made it significantly worse.
I returned the order to the RMC first, TV second and I doubled the delay - to 12 seconds - after powering on the RMC, before powering on the TV. Despite the huge lag, since making that change a few days ago I haven't had to manually restart the RMC at all. Now I'll start bringing the delay back down to see where it needs to be for reliability.
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Post by thezone on Mar 8, 2022 20:47:46 GMT -5
Posting here because my comment in the sticky Dirac thread seems too far off topic. Recap: I've been having many power-on issues waking my RMC-1 from Video Remains On sleep after updating to firmware 2.5. My only inputs currently are a DirecTV DVR and an AppleTV 4k, the model released Spring 2021. CEC is disabled on the RMC, and I installed the HDMI adapters that block CEC on the AppleTV and DVR. Those didn't help. I had been starting the RMC first, then the TV. I leave the DVR and AppleTV on all the time. I changed the order so the TV came on first, then the RMC. That actually made it significantly worse. I returned the order to the RMC first, TV second and I doubled the delay - to 12 seconds - after powering on the RMC, before powering on the TV. Despite the huge lag, since making that change a few days ago I haven't had to manually restart the RMC at all. Now I'll start bringing the delay back down to see where it needs to be for reliability. I have been having similar issues, can I ask what TV you have? |
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