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Post by creimes on Jan 9, 2022 17:04:10 GMT -5
They have a nice look to them but I was shocked by the prices for being ID branded, the 1723 tower is $3299 USD which is like $4300 CAD plus shipping is on top of that which I wouldn't want to know what that is from Europe lol, so I'd imagine a pair of those would cost me $10,000+ which is well out of my income level haha, curious how they would stack up to my 753 towers from Chane which is also ID at $899 USD each, the 753 aren't as pretty to look at but sound wise I'd be curious.
Do you plan on a full setup if you try them out ?
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Post by LCSeminole on Jan 9, 2022 18:05:33 GMT -5
That’s $3499/pair for the 1723 THX towers and the shipping is included in the price. They have a distribution warehouse in Chicago. $2899/pair for the 1723 S THX towers, as well as $1199 for the 1723 THX center. To start out with, I’d go with the front stage and if I like what I hear, finish it off with the 1723 S bookshelfs. I’m in no hurry right now as I have some home exterior plans that come before any luxury buy, so in other words, priorities.
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Post by creimes on Jan 9, 2022 20:27:43 GMT -5
I missed that per pair part haha, I was like wow that's getting pricey, that's good they have a US warehouse as their site says shipping is extra and overseas shipping could get very high I would have to imagine.
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Post by LuisV on Jan 9, 2022 21:10:28 GMT -5
I had the 1723s Towers in my room; huge dynamics, effortless, DEEP bass, and fantastic build quality. My opinion echos basically every Youtube review... but... they were a tad bright sounding to my ears... so yes, a little forward sounding. If I was able to tame them, they would still be in my room. For HT, I would highly recommend them. emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/57382/heading-back-2-channel |
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Post by garbulky on Jan 9, 2022 23:21:33 GMT -5
I had the 1723s Towers in my room; huge dynamics, effortless, DEEP bass, and fantastic build quality. My opinion echos basically every Youtube review... but... they were a tad bright sounding to my ears... so yes, a little forward sounding. If I was able to tame them, they would still be in my room. For HT, I would highly recommend them. emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/57382/heading-back-2-channel Are you the person in the video? |
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Post by selind40 on Jan 10, 2022 0:54:27 GMT -5
Better speakers are made in Utah.....and are cheaper, IMHO
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Post by 405x5 on Jan 10, 2022 8:40:59 GMT -5
I had the 1723s Towers in my room; huge dynamics, effortless, DEEP bass, and fantastic build quality. My opinion echos basically every Youtube review... but... they were a tad bright sounding to my ears... so yes, a little forward sounding. If I was able to tame them, they would still be in my room. For HT, I would highly recommend them. emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/57382/heading-back-2-channel Interesting take on a system with such an odd tweeter design. Not used to seeing one with the dome so recessed within a cone. Were it flush it would probably diffuse better and tame that brightness…..still would like to give them a listen |
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Post by LuisV on Jan 10, 2022 9:04:07 GMT -5
Are you the person in the video? Sorry, no...  |
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Post by LuisV on Jan 10, 2022 9:08:07 GMT -5
Interesting take on a system with such an odd tweeter design. Not used to seeing one with the dome so recessed within a cone. Were it flush it would probably diffuse better and tame that brightness…..still would like to give them a listen Haven't seen these? buchardtaudio.com/ |
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Post by KeithL on Jan 10, 2022 11:19:17 GMT -5
It's called "horn loading".... (It's a dome sitting in the back of a very short horn; it's intended to control or improve dispersion.)
I had the 1723s Towers in my room; huge dynamics, effortless, DEEP bass, and fantastic build quality. My opinion echos basically every Youtube review... but... they were a tad bright sounding to my ears... so yes, a little forward sounding. If I was able to tame them, they would still be in my room. For HT, I would highly recommend them. emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/57382/heading-back-2-channel Interesting take on a system with such an odd tweeter design. Not used to seeing one with the dome so recessed within a cone. Were it flush it would probably diffuse better and tame that brightness…..still would like to give them a listen |
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Post by 405x5 on Jan 10, 2022 11:46:39 GMT -5
It's called "horn loading".... (It's a dome sitting in the back of a very short horn; it's intended to control or improve dispersion.)
Interesting take on a system with such an odd tweeter design. Not used to seeing one with the dome so recessed within a cone. Were it flush it would probably diffuse better and tame that brightness…..still would like to give them a listen Yes 👍 I still use “corner loading”, inspired by Roy Allison…. In my kitchen with the Sonos Move Bluetooth/WiFi system. In this instance for the lows. Also utilizes a built in mic. for room correction. |
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Post by DYohn on Jan 11, 2022 15:38:01 GMT -5
It's called "horn loading".... (It's a dome sitting in the back of a very short horn; it's intended to control or improve dispersion.)
Interesting take on a system with such an odd tweeter design. Not used to seeing one with the dome so recessed within a cone. Were it flush it would probably diffuse better and tame that brightness…..still would like to give them a listen A short horn, or waveguide. I'd also love to audition them. |
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Post by rbk123 on Jan 11, 2022 16:08:40 GMT -5
Better speakers are made in Utah.....and are cheaper, IMHO Have you heard both? |
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Post by LCSeminole on Aug 4, 2022 21:08:39 GMT -5
I had the 1723s Towers in my room; huge dynamics, effortless, DEEP bass, and fantastic build quality. My opinion echos basically every Youtube review... but... they were a tad bright sounding to my ears... so yes, a little forward sounding. If I was able to tame them, they would still be in my room. For HT, I would highly recommend them. emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/57382/heading-back-2-channel Took delivery of the front stage yesterday evening. I can see why you would think they were a tad bright sounding, but myself coming from Klipsch Legends with horns, these right out of the box sound fantastic. I’m thinking 50 hours of break-in may tame the tweeters a little bit. Your description is spot on but to me the highs are quite to my liking.  |
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Post by LCSeminole on Aug 6, 2022 17:28:58 GMT -5
So I took delivery yesterday of the four 1723 Bookshelf S THX speakers that I'm using for back/side surround channel duty, thus completing the speaker setup(for now I'm keeping the SVS Elevations for height/Atmos). I've been playing music continually through them since I set them up on their stands, along with the new front stage. @luisv, he was right when describing the Arendal 1723 series line as, "huge dynamics, effortless, DEEP bass, and fantastic build quality". I'll add now that I've gotten about 25 hours of the 50 hours that Arendal suggests for "break-in", the harshness of the top end that many reviewers described in their reviews, I believe I'm already starting to hear that edginess(is that a word?) starting to taper off a bit and smooth out. Remember, I'm coming from Klipsch Legends with titanium diaphragm horns(yes an acquired taste) and the old Emotiva Reference line which are greatly laid back on the low and high end. These Arendal speakers are, thus far, in between those two speaker lines sweet spot-wise, and this is me giving my subjective thoughts early on, so it's a good thing that I'm very much liking them pre-break-in period. Thus far they are keepers, though I have a 60 day no-questions-asked return period just in case. As for the build quality, they are easily as good, if not better than the Revel Performa2 series that I was also highly entertaining and I also believe the Arendals comparatively to be on the same level as well, so this gives an idea as to the craftsmanship and parts they use. I look forward to the post-break in period to see what other differences I'll hear(hopefully for the better). I will say I'm driving all 7 channels with an XPA-7 Gen3 power amplifier and it doesn't seem to be breaking a sweat. The neutral sound of the Emotiva power amplifier thus far is a perfect fit for these speakers as many have said on some the European on-line communities that I've been reading. One last thing, the Towers(they weigh in @ 112lbs each) are most certainly at least a step beyond(especially low end) from my previous towers, and the Center(59lbs) is the biggest improvement over my past centers in presence and voicing, thus far no struggling to understand or even hear what is being said, thus quite articulate. One last thing, all of the Arendal speakers have neodymium magnets for the grills, which have a snap to it when replacing the grills, so these grills are not going anywhere if you were to bump the speakers. You actually have to use a bit of control to pull these grills off, and if you are a no-grills type of listener, it's nice that there are no tabs/pegs to which a grill must be pressed on, thus not taking away from the look of the speakers with the grills off. I’m also looking forward to hearing, once broken in, the difference with Dirac Live.
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Post by LuisV on Aug 8, 2022 7:56:19 GMT -5
Awesome... glad you're enjoying them thus far!! Looking forward to reading more once they reach beyond the recommended 50hr mark. Keep posting...
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Post by LCSeminole on Aug 8, 2022 21:45:09 GMT -5
Awesome... glad you're enjoying them thus far!! Looking forward to reading more once they reach beyond the recommended 50hr mark. Keep posting... I plan on putting as much time on them as possible until Labor Day week and then I'll run Dirac. At this point I've now put on over 50 hours and whether it's in my subjective head, the tweeter while a little bit bright has smoothed out a bit. The more I listen, the more I like and I don't see myself returning these in the 60 day return window. Anyhow, I'll definitely update this thread as I go. |
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Post by LCSeminole on Aug 28, 2022 12:17:00 GMT -5
So, I've continued to put more and more time on the "1723's"(which refers to the particular Arendal Sound speaker series). While in the past, I enjoyed my Klipsch Legend and Emotiva Reference speaker lines, I can sincerely say I'm coming home looking forward to listening to whatever CD I've not heard/played in quite some time. The 1723's have made listening to music again, quite the event for me. I've also been constantly playing with placement of all seven speakers, and while I think I've maximized positioning over the past 3+ weeks of listening, I'm sure there will be a small tweek here and there that may make that sweet spot even sweeter, but for now I believe I'm really close. This is where I go on a small tangent, "SPEAKER PLACEMENT". I've known this for quite some time, but seeing and checking out others speaker placement at times makes me cringe!.......has me asking what research or advice were you given for your speaker placement?......when all it would take is to read several articles on-line, and there are lots of good articles on the net. Yes I know no room reacts acoustically the same as another one of similar characteristics, but there are quite a few steadfast generalities that one can start from and build-on from there. I'm thinking "The Lounge" needs a thread, which I'm probably going to start, about Speaker Placement, Room Acoustics and Room Treatments. I've been diving head first into these subjects for the past 10 or so months, and the amount of good knowledge that is out there is astounding. I've latched on to a few websites and YouTube channels(yes YouTube has quite a few channels that are worth watching if you just do the searches and weed out the crap), which have enlightened me on the Physics of sound(for me a minor in college) so my learning curve has been shorter because of this. So anyhow back to the 1723's, sorry I digressed a bit. The timbre matching of the Arendal 1723 drivers is seemless, and I mean SEEMLESS! It literally for me, is hard to tell where one speaker field ends and the next begins. Concert blu-rays have me in the middle of the crowd, enveloped with the cheering and clapping between songs. I had watched a review of the 1723 Bookshelf S THX on "Erins Audio Corner" on YouTube(if you haven't encountered Erin's channel I encourage you to do so) and a couple of his measurements and tips led me to place these bookshelf's tweeter line just above my ears. I initially had them directly radiating to the MLP, well the waveguide effect on the dome tweeters are a slight bit on the bright side at ear level, but about 8-12 inches below the tweeter line made a world of difference. Anyhow, enough of my thoughts for now and back to listening. Oh yeah, it looks like I should be on-schedule to run Dirac next week(Labor Day week) when I'm on vacation from work, looking forward to the results one way or the other! |
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Post by LuisV on Aug 28, 2022 17:02:40 GMT -5
Have you seen this speaker placement video?
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