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Post by cinegreg on Jan 27, 2023 17:31:02 GMT -5
Seriously considering pulling the trigger on this, especially after a friend at Dolby raved to me about it.
Regarding automation/control, does it use the same IR codes as the MC-1? Or if not, the same codes as another Emotiva model?
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Post by cawgijoe on Jan 27, 2023 17:37:50 GMT -5
That is correct, it does not have a tuner. Interesting. In reality, it doesn’t bother me because a lot of people don’t listen to radio anymore OTA. You can always add a separate tuner if you do, or add a streamer or Bluetooth module and use your phone. You can get stations from all over the world. It’s still weird though because I always think of a receiver coming with a tuner.
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Post by cinegreg on Jan 27, 2023 17:43:30 GMT -5
That is correct, it does not have a tuner. Interesting. In reality, it doesn’t bother me because a lot of people don’t listen to radio anymore OTA. You can always add a separate tuner if you do, or add a streamer or Bluetooth module and use your phone. You can get stations from all over the world. It’s still weird though because I always think of a receiver coming with a tuner. I think AM/FM support is going to become less and less available. My kids just listen to streaming. I primarily listen to my music library. Heck, the car I bought a few months ago didn't come with an AM radio. Just FM (and Sirius/XM).
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Post by selind40 on Jan 27, 2023 18:18:05 GMT -5
I’m one of the dying breed that still listens to AM & FM radio every day for hours…….. I wonder how good the tuner sections are?? I realize that most likely not much time design wise was probably spent in this area, just curious I guess. I’d like to get rid of separates someday though….. Maybe I’m blind, but I don’t think it has a tuner…. My bad……thought it looked like an FM antenna connection on the back……guess I need an eye appointment as well. 😳
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Post by Dan Laufman on Jan 27, 2023 18:35:14 GMT -5
The MR1 does come with a high-performance Bluetooth receiver built in.
We find that very few people listen to the terrestrial radio on their AVR’s anymore.
We’ll also be releasing a very nice streaming unit for use with our products this summer.
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Post by hemster on Jan 27, 2023 19:01:45 GMT -5
The MR1 does come with a high-performance Bluetooth receiver built in. We find that very few people listen to the terrestrial radio on their AVR’s anymore. We’ll also be releasing a very nice streaming unit for use with our products this summer. I am intrigued! Can't wait to hear details of the streamer!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2023 19:14:45 GMT -5
So, first question, when I playback something in TrueHD Atmos the MR-1 shows Dolby Atmos scrolling on the display, but the onscreen info shows Dolby Audio (TrueHD) and the screen on the unit (post scroll) just shows Dolby TrueHD. Nothing after the initial scroll on the display shows Atmos, so how do you know if you missed it? Is it playing Atmos? I feel like this might be some kind of oddity I am not used to as the Marantz correctly displays Atmos on the same material.
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Post by davidl81 on Jan 27, 2023 19:18:50 GMT -5
The MR1 does come with a high-performance Bluetooth receiver built in. We find that very few people listen to the terrestrial radio on their AVR’s anymore. We’ll also be releasing a very nice streaming unit for use with our products this summer. Dan, Will it support Spotify Connect and Airplay? I have to have those for my living room AVR as I want a super quick simple way to play background music.
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Post by Dan Laufman on Jan 27, 2023 21:42:31 GMT -5
So, first question, when I playback something in TrueHD Atmos the MR-1 shows Dolby Atmos scrolling on the display, but the onscreen info shows Dolby Audio (TrueHD) and the screen on the unit (post scroll) just shows Dolby TrueHD. Nothing after the initial scroll on the display shows Atmos, so how do you know if you missed it? Is it playing Atmos? I feel like this might be some kind of oddity I am not used to as the Marantz correctly displays Atmos on the same material.
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Post by Dan Laufman on Jan 27, 2023 21:43:40 GMT -5
Yes, it is decoding Atmos.
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Post by Dan Laufman on Jan 27, 2023 22:21:39 GMT -5
The MR1 does come with a high-performance Bluetooth receiver built in. We find that very few people listen to the terrestrial radio on their AVR’s anymore. We’ll also be releasing a very nice streaming unit for use with our products this summer. Dan, Will it support Spotify Connect and Airplay? I have to have those for my living room AVR as I want a super quick simple way to play background music. Yes, it will support direct streaming of most popular streaming services and Airplay.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2023 22:28:45 GMT -5
Yes, it is decoding Atmos. Thanks Dan for the confirmation. Any chance it could just display Dolby Atmos instead? Similar to how it does with DD+ Atmos. Great job by the Emotiva team on the MR-1. Solid, high performance AVR for a great price.
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Post by eurorom on Jan 28, 2023 8:43:10 GMT -5
The MR1 does come with a high-performance Bluetooth receiver built in. We find that very few people listen to the terrestrial radio on their AVR’s anymore. We’ll also be releasing a very nice streaming unit for use with our products this summer. Glad to hear on new streaming, I hope it has a interconection to the TV because I like to watch videos and ilustrations from the streamers!!!!
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Post by cinegreg on Jan 28, 2023 11:10:25 GMT -5
The MR1 does come with a high-performance Bluetooth receiver built in. We find that very few people listen to the terrestrial radio on their AVR’s anymore. We’ll also be releasing a very nice streaming unit for use with our products this summer. I am intrigued! Can't wait to hear details of the streamer! Very interesting! Please support DLNA local streaming for up to six channel 24/192 flac. DSD support would of course also be awesome, but as long as it can do multichannel 24/192 flac I'd be a very happy camper. Even better would be if you had native JRiver Media Center Client support!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2023 12:59:29 GMT -5
Completed a first try Emo-Q calibration. The distance and level calculations were spot on so that was a great start. The parametric EQ phase was a tad more interesting. I was surprised to learn that the mic should be pointed at the speaker and as unobstructed as possible. The literature suggests holding the mic pointing at the speaker.... I gotta say... this is a first. Now the reason for the need to hold the mic is that there isn't a tripod threading on the bottom of the mic. Why is that guys? My feeling is that setting the EQ this way might produce some rather haphazard results due to any reflection or unintended sound absorption of oneself behind the mic. While rather unlikely, it does make consistent results a touch trickier as even holding the mic over your head is considered ok. Coming from far more advanced corrections such as Dirac or ARC to this provides a real perspective on just how simplistic the approach is. I really didn't expect Emo-Q to be quite this rudimentary.
Fortunately, the results seemed pretty good. I noticed a tamer top end on my B&W which is what I was hoping for and it didn't neuter the bass as many other correction system tend to do. I would say that the Audyssey results from the Marantz were better as it really tightened things up and improved the cohesiveness of the sound field, but the MR-1 does sound better with the filter in place. I will probably toy around with another try and then maybe play a little manually to see if I can further improve.
Overall, it works but it is definitely not the cutting edge room correction one might expect on a $2k AVR. On a relatively simple room I can see it working well, but anything complex such as vaulted ceilings and large open floor plans might not achieve the desired result. I will report more findings as I tinker.
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Post by geebo on Jan 28, 2023 14:16:17 GMT -5
Completed a first try Emo-Q calibration. The distance and level calculations were spot on so that was a great start. The parametric EQ phase was a tad more interesting. I was surprised to learn that the mic should be pointed at the speaker and as unobstructed as possible. The literature suggests holding the mic pointing at the speaker.... I gotta say... this is a first. Now the reason for the need to hold the mic is that there isn't a tripod threading on the bottom of the mic. Why is that guys? My feeling is that setting the EQ this way might produce some rather haphazard results due to any reflection or unintended sound absorption of oneself behind the mic. While rather unlikely, it does make consistent results a touch trickier as even holding the mic over your head is considered ok. Coming from far more advanced corrections such as Dirac or ARC to this provides a real perspective on just how simplistic the approach is. I really didn't expect Emo-Q to be quite this rudimentary. Fortunately, the results seemed pretty good. I noticed a tamer top end on my B&W which is what I was hoping for and it didn't neuter the bass as many other correction system tend to do. I would say that the Audyssey results from the Marantz were better as it really tightened things up and improved the cohesiveness of the sound field, but the MR-1 does sound better with the filter in place. I will probably toy around with another try and then maybe play a little manually to see if I can further improve. Overall, it works but it is definitely not the cutting edge room correction one might expect on a $2k AVR. On a relatively simple room I can see it working well, but anything complex such as vaulted ceilings and large open floor plans might not achieve the desired result. I will report more findings as I tinker. Looking at the manual I found this: "The microphone should be placed at or near the main listening position at ear level for the initial level/distance sweeps performed by the Emo-Q program, pointing upwards towards the ceiling. We suggest you use a stable platform in clear view of all speakers from the main listening position. You may hold the microphone, but any movement of the microphone during measurement and the proximity of your body may interfere".
It doesn't appear that you are supposed to point the mic at the individual speakers. Rather just set it down and leave it alone.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2023 19:36:18 GMT -5
Completed a first try Emo-Q calibration. The distance and level calculations were spot on so that was a great start. The parametric EQ phase was a tad more interesting. I was surprised to learn that the mic should be pointed at the speaker and as unobstructed as possible. The literature suggests holding the mic pointing at the speaker.... I gotta say... this is a first. Now the reason for the need to hold the mic is that there isn't a tripod threading on the bottom of the mic. Why is that guys? My feeling is that setting the EQ this way might produce some rather haphazard results due to any reflection or unintended sound absorption of oneself behind the mic. While rather unlikely, it does make consistent results a touch trickier as even holding the mic over your head is considered ok. Coming from far more advanced corrections such as Dirac or ARC to this provides a real perspective on just how simplistic the approach is. I really didn't expect Emo-Q to be quite this rudimentary. Fortunately, the results seemed pretty good. I noticed a tamer top end on my B&W which is what I was hoping for and it didn't neuter the bass as many other correction system tend to do. I would say that the Audyssey results from the Marantz were better as it really tightened things up and improved the cohesiveness of the sound field, but the MR-1 does sound better with the filter in place. I will probably toy around with another try and then maybe play a little manually to see if I can further improve. Overall, it works but it is definitely not the cutting edge room correction one might expect on a $2k AVR. On a relatively simple room I can see it working well, but anything complex such as vaulted ceilings and large open floor plans might not achieve the desired result. I will report more findings as I tinker. Looking at the manual I found this: "The microphone should be placed at or near the main listening position at ear level for the initial level/distance sweeps performed by the Emo-Q program, pointing upwards towards the ceiling. We suggest you use a stable platform in clear view of all speakers from the main listening position. You may hold the microphone, but any movement of the microphone during measurement and the proximity of your body may interfere".
It doesn't appear that you are supposed to point the mic at the individual speakers. Rather just set it down and leave it alone. Also from the manual under Emo-Q Guide "5. Equalization" After taking the level and distance readings, the Emo-Q program will pause before the Equalization measurements are taken. At this point, the program will instruct you to aim the measurement microphone in the direction of each speaker, one at a time. You may sit in your main listening position, hold the microphone, and aim it at the tweeter of each speaker as prompted. The program will pause between each channel to give you time to reposition before starting the next test. From the MR-1 manual under EMO-Q Advanced Automatic Room Correction The front of the microphone is the tip of the cone. Therefore, as each speaker is tested, your should hold the microphone as steadily as you can, and point the tip of the cone towards the speaker that is playing the test tone. You also need to be careful to ensure that the microphone has an unobstructed line of sight to each speaker as it is tested. (You may hold the microphone over your head, or turn your body while holding the microphone in front of you, but be sure that neither your body, nor any furniture, blocks the path between the microphone and each speaker as it is being tested.
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Post by geebo on Jan 28, 2023 19:50:49 GMT -5
Looking at the manual I found this: "The microphone should be placed at or near the main listening position at ear level for the initial level/distance sweeps performed by the Emo-Q program, pointing upwards towards the ceiling. We suggest you use a stable platform in clear view of all speakers from the main listening position. You may hold the microphone, but any movement of the microphone during measurement and the proximity of your body may interfere".
It doesn't appear that you are supposed to point the mic at the individual speakers. Rather just set it down and leave it alone. Also from the manual under "5. Equalization" After taking the level and distance readings, the Emo-Q program will pause before the Equalization measurements are taken. At this point, the program will instruct you to aim the measurement microphone in the direction of each speaker, one at a time. You may sit in your main listening position, hold the microphone, and aim it at the tweeter of each speaker as prompted. The program will pause between each channel to give you time to reposition before starting the next test. Hmmm, first time I've heard of a processor that wants you to point the mic at the tweeters. The MC-1 outlines the identical procedure which is certainly a departure from previous Emotiva (and others) methods. I wonder why the change.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2023 19:57:03 GMT -5
You got me, but it is a first in my experience. I don't even understand the methodology as it is trying to not account for obstacles in the room from your sitting position.
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Post by Thunderduck on Jan 28, 2023 19:57:55 GMT -5
Also from the manual under "5. Equalization" After taking the level and distance readings, the Emo-Q program will pause before the Equalization measurements are taken. At this point, the program will instruct you to aim the measurement microphone in the direction of each speaker, one at a time. You may sit in your main listening position, hold the microphone, and aim it at the tweeter of each speaker as prompted. The program will pause between each channel to give you time to reposition before starting the next test. Hmmm, first time I've heard of a processor that wants you to point the mic at the tweeters. The MC-1 outlines the identical procedure which is certainly a departure from previous Emotiva (and others) methods. I wonder why the change. Also allowing you to sit in the main listening position while holding the mic. Not aware of any other calibration programs that allow you to do this. I must admit I have wondered why you should not be sitting in the main listening position while taking readings since your body is a part of the surroundings that would affect the measurements.
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