ukemo
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Post by ukemo on Sept 20, 2013 4:13:04 GMT -5
Any idea if the Euro branch will be open and ready to rock by Christmas?
An obvious time to have a big opening event, but I wonder if everything will be sorted in time for that to happen?
Would be grateful for any indication if this is potentially on the cards (with the usual caveats etc etc) - fingers crossed in the meantime!!
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Post by neo20013 on Sept 20, 2013 6:42:47 GMT -5
Any idea if the Euro branch will be open and ready to rock by Christmas? An obvious time to have a big opening event ... Eheheh, i think that's a question everyone wants to know the answer  |
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Post by ossif on Sept 29, 2013 3:31:36 GMT -5
Welcome! Demand is by no means limited to the UK... I am very curious how the pricing is going to be. Until now, shipping was expensive, especially for the XPA and XPR amps and speakers. And then you had to cough up an additional 30% for duties and VAT. Luckily the dollar / euro rate was very favourable. This meant that buying Emotiva gear in stead of other was still a no-brainer. I would imagine that duties and VAT would be added to the prices. Shipping inside EU should be free of charge as it's also free inside USA. And if Rotterdam is supplied straight from China, that would cost nothing extra also. My guess is that the European branch will not make this without charging a severe extra. We have seen this already with different US brands where prices generally were about the double or more of what they were in the US. This would be very unattractive, in fact it would not work like all previous examples of different brands have showed. Not sure a European branch is what is required. |
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Post by garbulky on Sept 29, 2013 6:55:36 GMT -5
The european store will have to charge prices keeping in mind european competition prices....which means.....I don't think US prices are going to happen. Rightfully so. A brand shouldn't have to lose money unnecessarily.
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Post by yves on Sept 29, 2013 7:19:27 GMT -5
Welcome! Demand is by no means limited to the UK... I am very curious how the pricing is going to be. Until now, shipping was expensive, especially for the XPA and XPR amps and speakers. And then you had to cough up an additional 30% for duties and VAT. Luckily the dollar / euro rate was very favourable. This meant that buying Emotiva gear in stead of other was still a no-brainer. I would imagine that duties and VAT would be added to the prices. Shipping inside EU should be free of charge as it's also free inside USA. And if Rotterdam is supplied straight from China, that would cost nothing extra also. My guess is that the European branch will not make this without charging a severe extra. We have seen this already with different US brands where prices generally were about the double or more of what they were in the US. This would be very unattractive, in fact it would not work like all previous examples of different brands have showed. Not sure a European branch is what is required. I expect Emotiva to pay neither my duty fees, nor my heavily oversized taxes. One of the major benefits of having a European warehouse IMO will come from the fact European customers will be able to more cost effectively ship their products back to Emotiva should they require technical repair. |
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Post by Jim on Sept 29, 2013 8:21:38 GMT -5
Welcome! Demand is by no means limited to the UK... I am very curious how the pricing is going to be. Until now, shipping was expensive, especially for the XPA and XPR amps and speakers. And then you had to cough up an additional 30% for duties and VAT. Luckily the dollar / euro rate was very favourable. This meant that buying Emotiva gear in stead of other was still a no-brainer. I would imagine that duties and VAT would be added to the prices. Shipping inside EU should be free of charge as it's also free inside USA. And if Rotterdam is supplied straight from China, that would cost nothing extra also. My guess is that the European branch will not make this without charging a severe extra. We have seen this already with different US brands where prices generally were about the double or more of what they were in the US. This would be very unattractive, in fact it would not work like all previous examples of different brands have showed. Not sure a European branch is what is required. I doubt that you'll see 2-3x US costs, but unfortunately the cost of running a warehouse in a foreign country is going to be more than the existing warehouse they've had in the US for years. I'm sure that opening a distribution location is not a low cost endeavor (or simple, logistically). I think that having access to a repair facility is the biggest advantage. |
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Post by ossif on Sept 29, 2013 9:00:03 GMT -5
My guess is that the European branch will not make this without charging a severe extra. We have seen this already with different US brands where prices generally were about the double or more of what they were in the US. This would be very unattractive, in fact it would not work like all previous examples of different brands have showed. Not sure a European branch is what is required. I expect Emotiva to pay neither my duty fees, nor my heavily oversized taxes. One of the major benefits of having a European warehouse IMO will come from the fact European customers will be able to more cost effectively ship their products back to Emotiva should they require technical repair. That is not the point. Duty fees and taxes are not the thing I am looking at. Parasound is good example compare the Price of the Units in Europe and US. That will give you an idea what I am talking about. |
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Post by TUGA Audiophile on Sept 29, 2013 12:40:34 GMT -5
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Post by ossif on Sept 29, 2013 13:00:13 GMT -5
So basically you confirmed that the Price is higher in the EU? |
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Post by TUGA Audiophile on Sept 29, 2013 13:08:15 GMT -5
So basically you confirmed that the Price is higher in the EU? Yes or No. What is higer for you? - For me, for example, is pay the same with you in USA more the shipping costs. But if the offers are the same and the price increase 50€ or 100€ what is the problem, the value of EMOTIVA GEAR make this a GOOD DEAL! |
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Post by yves on Sept 29, 2013 16:32:48 GMT -5
I expect Emotiva to pay neither my duty fees, nor my heavily oversized taxes. One of the major benefits of having a European warehouse IMO will come from the fact European customers will be able to more cost effectively ship their products back to Emotiva should they require technical repair. That is not the point. Duty fees and taxes are not the thing I am looking at. Parasound is good example compare the Price of the Units in Europe and US. That will give you an idea what I am talking about. So, basically, what you are trying to tell us is that Parasound isn't the same as Emotiva. I believe you've made a good point!  |
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Post by neo20013 on Sept 29, 2013 17:11:16 GMT -5
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Post by Flunk on Sept 30, 2013 6:56:49 GMT -5
I get a feeling that people are discussing a problem that doesn't exist yet. 
I for one believe the Emotiva crew has done there home work, I mean they been successful so far.
I would like a European warehouse which gives me an opportunity to buy more gear at a lower total cost than today. But if the total cost(product+ tax +shipping +whatever) from US is cheaper than the total cost for the same product within Europe I would just have them send it from US. And that would work against the whole idea of an European warehouse. Then it would only serve as a service point, which is ok by me too. It would surprise me if they haven't thought of this.
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Post by Erwin.BE on Sept 30, 2013 13:15:47 GMT -5
I get a feeling that people are discussing a problem that doesn't exist yet.
I for one believe the Emotiva crew has done there home work, I mean they been successful so far.
I would like a European warehouse which gives me an opportunity to buy more gear at a lower total cost than today. But if the total cost(product+ tax +shipping +whatever) from US is cheaper than the total cost for the same product within Europe I would just have them send it from US.
If they let you... Basically (the word is in fashion it seems) there would be no point in starting up a EU branch while giving up the aggressive "direct" pricing via internet. Teufel and XTZ do it already and so will Emotiva. Period. |
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Post by ossif on Sept 30, 2013 14:27:46 GMT -5
I get a feeling that people are discussing a problem that doesn't exist yet.
I for one believe the Emotiva crew has done there home work, I mean they been successful so far.
I would like a European warehouse which gives me an opportunity to buy more gear at a lower total cost than today. But if the total cost(product+ tax +shipping +whatever) from US is cheaper than the total cost for the same product within Europe I would just have them send it from US.
If they let you... Basically (the word is in fashion it seems) there would be no point in starting up a EU branch while giving up the aggressive "direct" pricing via internet. Teufel and XTZ do it already and so will Emotiva. Period. yes, it they still let you. But anyway, the European Branch has been in discussions for years already and nothing has happened. This is a bit like the XMC-1, years in the making and still not there. So who knows, there may be some years ahead of us in this matter. |
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Post by ludi on Sept 30, 2013 14:33:41 GMT -5
If they let you... Basically (the word is in fashion it seems) there would be no point in starting up a EU branch while giving up the aggressive "direct" pricing via internet. Teufel and XTZ do it already and so will Emotiva. Period. yes, it they still let you. But anyway, the European Branch has been in discussions for years already and nothing has happened. This is a bit like the XMC-1, years in the making and still not there. So who knows, there may be some years ahead of us in this matter. I hope and expect it is more a matter of months than years, maybe 14-2-14 is good starting date? |
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Post by Erwin.BE on Sept 30, 2013 14:42:28 GMT -5
If they let you... Basically (the word is in fashion it seems) there would be no point in starting up a EU branch while giving up the aggressive "direct" pricing via internet. Teufel and XTZ do it already and so will Emotiva. Period. yes, it they still let you. But anyway, the European Branch has been in discussions for years already and nothing has happened. This is a bit like the XMC-1, years in the making and still not there. So who knows, there may be some years ahead of us in this matter. No, it's imminent. |
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Post by alexthefrench on Sept 30, 2013 15:05:16 GMT -5
I'd even add within the next 30-60 days.. |
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Post by ukemo on Oct 2, 2013 5:02:35 GMT -5
Why don't we all just wait to find out what the Euro price will be, rather than speculating. (A few of you seem to be putting your foot in it and almost asking for higher prices  ??) I for one hope they are able to follow the direct pricing / value approach - that seems to be one of the cornerstones of Emotiva's success in the US, so it would be a shame to lose that in Europe. But I'm sure they know what they are doing so let's wait and see what they come up with |
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Post by geertm on Oct 3, 2013 15:18:44 GMT -5
New podcast today.
Emotiva is busy filling up the European warehouse with products.
They are working on the website.
Shipping from Europe after some 30/35 days.
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