DYohn
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Post by DYohn on Feb 15, 2010 16:27:18 GMT -5
roadrunner, calm down man! It's only the interwebz, it's not worth getting worked up about. Although I do agree with you.  |
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Post by ratmice on Feb 15, 2010 16:33:58 GMT -5
And really, there's not much to distort about that initial post you cited, either. ur done! ;-)
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Post by maseline98 on Feb 15, 2010 17:01:45 GMT -5
Well...I finally got my shipping confirmation(supposed to ship on 3/24). My question is: will the firmware update be applied to my system or will I have to apply it myself. Too bad we don't know the pricing of the XMC-1 yet. If it were the original $999, I would definitely be bailing on the UMC-1 and going with that option, but my guess is that it will come in around $1299 and I just don't think the added $600 more than the UMC-1 is going to sway me that way. On another note: I'm getting my RF7s/RC7 networks updated this week from DeanG Man is my wife going to be upset when she sees all of this stuff come through on the credit card next months....lol |
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Post by kumayama on Feb 15, 2010 17:04:57 GMT -5
Given the lack of information in most post other than these figures can't be right, so it must be broken and the unknown variables as in room configurations, mic placements, etc. It is very difficult to determine what is trully an issue that needs to be resolved and what is not. Some have given very good details and I am currently looking into what I can but at this time, I can tell you that the system is solid from my testing and have not found the issues some have reported. This is by no means the final word on it as I am continuing to look into this to try and first isolate the issue and second rectify it whether by better explanantions on how to use the system or by software depending on what I find. What I do know is this. In the lab, the theatre here and in multiple homes, I can run the system and get repeatable and correct results. This is a good place to start as it shows the system is running as designed. The next step is to try and isolate the variables that may cause anomolies and see how they affect the system. Further investigation is needed at this point. Lonnie, Perhaps you should provide a list of precisely what info you need from people with squirrely Emo-Q results (yes, that's a technical term).  It seems that it's more than an isolated problem when a number of people are getting huge differences in the xo values of their front main speakers (i.e., 20Hz on one and 250Hz on the other). Kudos on an excellent device. It's obvious that designing and manufacturing a pre-pro today is very complex and worlds different than what it was even 10 years ago. I couldn't be more in agreement. I'f I'm any example, there are a lot more people experiencing problems than feel comfortable describing them on this forum. I think a form generated by Emotiva for us to report our experiences (both good and bad) would be helpful for everyone. I do have problems with Emo-Q generating highly disparate and often simply absurd findings (e.g., 250 crossovers for a -3db at 28hs speaker, on the first trial, then 20 crossover when it is rerun another trial immediately after.). The greatly disparate level, crossover and even distance readings occur in a quiet room with the microphone unmoved between trials. I'm even using the remote from outside the room when I'm running these. I'll be happy to document these in detail if you wish to provide a form to fill in giving you precisely the information you require to resolve this issue. Much as the Emo-Q is unusable for me, much more problematic is the constant drop outs of channels when the source is a Direct TV DVR. This is my primary source for my HT system (I have a couple of separate 2 channel systems) and it's becoming more that a little frustrating that I'm having to move between inputs several times an hour to deal with the channel drop outs. Perhaps I've missed it in all the posts, but I'm unaware that Emotiva has issued any recognition that they are attending to this problem. For the most part I've been very patient, waiting two years to get the unit, then weeks more to get the "firmware fix"that was supposed to solve all the major problems, and finally spending hours getting the firmware "fix" to run successfully. After this my UMC still has major problems (I call repeatedly dropping channels of the audio signal from my primary source a major problem). I hope you will recognize these problems are real, and give hope for a fix, prior to my 30 day post firmware update window closing. |
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Post by owtuv on Feb 15, 2010 17:25:22 GMT -5
It is the select few members here that feel that they can dictate what other members say here especially if it is negative that I have no respect for. They know who they are as do others who visit here. I actually got a PM from one of these individuals that was so bizarre and off the wall that it was sad. I have also received PMs from other members here some long time members that have said they are also tired of the obsessive "Fanboism". To be a fan for a specific companies products is great but when it becomes obsessive then it is a little too much IMO. Hi Bill, I totally agree, the fanboyism in this forum must be embarrassing even to Emotiva. Thanks for trying to balance the content here with your well reasoned posts! All the best, Ole Willy Tuv |
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Post by billmac on Feb 15, 2010 17:43:32 GMT -5
Moe, I have repeatly posted positive thoughts on the UMC-1 here and on AVS. But I also have posted here and on AVS regarding the issues with the UMC-1. My reason for that is because I am on the second preorder list and I hope all the issues including those with Emo-Q are corrected before I receive my UMC-1. If you recall the USP-1 had an issue with it when it was first released regarding headphone use. Some first owners posted here of the issue including myself and Emotiva corrected it very quickly. My point is if no one posts here reporting or inquiring about issues with the UMC-1 whether they own it or not how will Emotiva know about the issues? The BIG question is why do you even care what my reason is behind my posting? I also think you should go back and reread some of the many posts from ACTUAL UMC-1 owners who are not happy with the way Emo-Q functions. Doing that you will see that my posts pale in comparison to the number of ones from ACTUAL UMC-1 owners . If you feel I have a right to complain then why are you even asking what my motives are? You obviously are contradicting yourself  . As I said earlier take the time to read some of my posts here and at AVS. I am very interested in the UMC-1 for many reasons one of the biggest is that it has a Direct analog bypass. Someone like yourself that seems obsessed with my business should take a hard look at all of my posts related to Emotiva products. I'm a very positive person as well and have every confidence Emotiva will correct the issues with the UMC-1. As I said before read all my posts and you will see that . To say you would move if your room did not sound good is not an option many have or would want to. Whether a prepro is perfect or not will not send me over the edge. I either would not buy that component or learn to live with its issues. The bottom line is are the issues I mention with the UMC-1 actual issues or am I making them up? The answer would be they are in fact actual issues and I feel myself or anyone else (UMC-1 owner or not) can discuss them freely here as long as it is in a civil manor. Now have I hurled insults at the Emotiva staff or any members here? I don't think I have so again I don't understand your interest in my motives. I do not have any motives other than to see the UMC-1 become bug free and be a huge hit for Emotiva . Bill |
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Post by owtuv on Feb 15, 2010 17:56:31 GMT -5
Get real. Stop distorting what everyone posts. Read the entire post and take it in context. I know that is probably impossible for you to do, but give it a try. You, yourself, frequent respond to other people posting about products they don't own by telling them they should not be talking about a product they don't have. Are you someone special that you are allowed to do what you keep telling others they can't do? Forgive me, your Highness, I didn't realize you don't have to practice what you preach. Grow up. You can´t be real.  I´ve never seen a worse fanboy than you on any AV User or Company forum on the Internet. From reading your posts I assume you would praise Emotiva no matter the quality state of your purchase. One thing to consider is that you might be doing Emotiva more damage than good with this kind of ridiculous worship. To avoid any misunderstanding - I´m a very satisfied Emotiva customer owning an XPA-3 and an ERC-1, and I´m also on the preorder list for the XMC-1. It´s just that I´m finding the extreme fanboyism on this forum more and more disgusting. Best regards, Ole Willy Tuv |
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Post by billmac on Feb 15, 2010 18:00:58 GMT -5
Get real. Stop distorting what everyone posts. Read the entire post and take it in context. I know that is probably impossible for you to do, but give it a try. You, yourself, frequent respond to other people posting about products they don't own by telling them they should not be talking about a product they don't have. Are you someone special that you are allowed to do what you keep telling others they can't do? Forgive me, your Highness, I didn't realize you don't have to practice what you preach. Grow up. Everyone else on this forum has just as much right to state their opinions as you do. Who appointed you God of what can and cannot be posted? Are you serious  ? What did I distort? Someone posts here telling me I should not comment on the UMC-1 because I do not own it and you come up with this crap . Please show me the many posts I have made telling people not to comment on components they do not own. If I have I will gladly apologize to them openly in this forum. I feel you have some serious issues the most obvious is anger issues. We are talking about a prepro here and not about a life or death issue. To be honest your above post that I quoted directly is quite embarassing. Nothing distorted on this one . As much as I might not agree with some members opinions here I do not get my blood pressure up as high as you have. My advice to you would be to calm down and not sweat the small stuff . Bill |
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Post by venaka on Feb 15, 2010 18:22:12 GMT -5
Get real. Stop distorting what everyone posts. Read the entire post and take it in context. I know that is probably impossible for you to do, but give it a try. You, yourself, frequent respond to other people posting about products they don't own by telling them they should not be talking about a product they don't have. Are you someone special that you are allowed to do what you keep telling others they can't do? Forgive me, your Highness, I didn't realize you don't have to practice what you preach. Grow up. Everyone else on this forum has just as much right to state their opinions as you do. Who appointed you God of what can and cannot be posted? Are you serious ? What did I distort? Someone posts here telling me I should not comment on the UMC-1 because I do not own it and you come up with this crap . Please show me the many posts I have made telling people not to comment on components they do not own. If I have I will gladly apologize to them openly in this forum. I feel you have some serious issues the most obvious is anger issues. We are talking about a prepro here and not about a life or death issue. To be honest your above post that I quoted directly is quite embarassing. Nothing distorted on this one . As much as I might not agree with some members opinions here I do not get my blood pressure up as high as you have. My advice to you would be to calm down and not sweat the small stuff . Bill please use PM.. or go on a date |
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Post by lonnie on Feb 15, 2010 19:02:08 GMT -5
So would you like more info like Type of speakers and maybe pics of the room along with the settings the UMC-1 gets when it runs EMO-Q? I don't have mine yet, so just wondering. Picks of the room with mic placement would be helpful as well as what amplifiers you are using and speaker specs. The info could be emailed to me, but before everyone floods my inbox, please hold on and let me do a little more digging here first. If I can't find it, then you can send it over. Thanks for the offer to help.  |
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. As I said earlier take the time to read some of my posts here and at AVS. I am very interested in the UMC-1 for many reasons one of the biggest is that it has a Direct analog bypass. Someone like yourself that seems obsessed with my business should take a hard look at all of my posts related to Emotiva products. 
I´ve never seen a worse fanboy than you on any AV User or Company forum on the Internet. From reading your posts I assume you would praise Emotiva no matter the quality state of your purchase. One thing to consider is that you might be doing Emotiva more damage than good with this kind of ridiculous worship.
