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Post by billmac on Oct 18, 2010 9:42:28 GMT -5
Well that is open to interpretation . I'm sure those that have use for an AM tuner will reply in due time. No I do not use the AM tuner at home. Not sure what that has to do with the AM tuner working or not working outside of the US with the UMC-1 or the future XMC-1. But if I was outside of the US I would hope it would work . Bill
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Post by NorthStar on Oct 18, 2010 9:43:01 GMT -5
I hope that one of my prior question regarding if the XMC-1 would have an AM/FM radio is not the cause of some kind of arguments. ...Of course not. ;D I asked that question before not for me, but for Gaston, a nice fellow from Emotiv-eh, the Canadian Zone, who is learning to speak good French (have an exam coming soon). And he asked me few questions on the XMC-1, and I tried to fill him in. But I do realise how important it could be for some people that live in different parts of the globe on how some features might work or not in their own countries. And this issue regarding the AM/FM/HD tuner is a very legit ( slang) one. So is HDMI version 1.4 for 3D capability with the Audio Channel Return (ARC). And so is having two HDMI outputs for both a Projector and a Plasma or LCD display. And also the Ethernet port to stream International music from the Internet. And the Auto Room EQ & Correction System. Plus a better Bass Management. And other improvements over the UMC-1... Those are the things that French Canadians asked me about, and I simply communicate them right here in this own very thread about the XMC-1's eventual future release for people that are very interested. Also French people from France, and Morocco, and Africa. Regards, Bob * Sorry for my grammatical errors and typos.
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Post by jamrock on Oct 18, 2010 9:46:31 GMT -5
I hope that the XMC-1 will have a HD tuner that can be configured for use in all countries if possible. Personally, I want a HD tuner because it sounds much better than analog and less succeptible to interference. In my neck of the woods here in S. Florida, it comes in very handy during the hurricane season, as long as we have power.
Also, I listen to sports talk radio a lot. And, sometimes I prefer to listen to the local sports broadcasts when my teams are playing as I watch the action on TV if I can get the 2 to synchronize.
However, if the XMC-1 does not have a HD tuner, shelf space permitting, I will get a good, stand-alone tuner. I personally don't find the tuner feature to be critical to my decision to buy or not.
jamrock, ;D
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Post by Woodpecker on Oct 18, 2010 10:30:14 GMT -5
I'll listen to AM in the car sometimes. Talk radio and local happenings. With an HD tuner along with an AM station broadcasting in HD, the sound is FM quality. It really does make AM stations very listenable. Not that I'd require that on a processor, but it would be a nice addition.
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Post by aussie on Oct 18, 2010 15:11:36 GMT -5
As a international customer I knew before purchase the AM tuner would be of no use and this doesn't bother me one bit. Who in the heck listens to AM these days? I do however use FM though and it works here but it doesn't seem to be anything super, it'd be nice if they improved this on the XMC or very, very nice if they went HD.
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Post by jklow888 on Oct 18, 2010 15:55:08 GMT -5
As a international customer I knew before purchase the AM tuner would be of no use and this doesn't bother me one bit. Who in the heck listens to AM these days? I do however use FM though and it works here but it doesn't seem to be anything super, it'd be nice if they improved this on the XMC or very, very nice if they went HD. What about cricket commentary on 702 ? HD won't help us in Oz - we need DAB+. Can't see this happening for a global product, so best take the tuner out/reduce the cost/put it into something else to make it a better processor.
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Post by NorthStar on Oct 18, 2010 16:02:53 GMT -5
Anyway, in my way of thinking, I believe it is best to have your own dedicated tuner, according to the region where you live, so you can get the best of the world in your own Tuner Control Station. And the same goes with the Internet Streaming feature; you are much better getting your own separate Internet music server. Heck, some people prefer also to have their own dedicated Video Processor. I-Pod, USB, ok, those are comme ci comme ca, but for me, I simply don't give a squat plastic rat! I'm Canadian, and I think like one too, so I must be true to myself!
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Post by NorthStar on Oct 18, 2010 16:14:33 GMT -5
A good Phono amp section, yes, that I take. A good Headphone amp section, that too, I take. But more than anything else, in addition of those, give me the Sound Quality (both Analog & Digital), with top notch sections on both of these, plus a great (no, make that one of the very best) Auto Room EQ & Correction Speaker system, with of course state-of-the-art Bass Management, and finally (in addition to two HDMI outs v.1.4) the capability to have a full 11.2-channel system configuration. ...See, I'm not asking for too much now right? Yup, Audyssey MultEQ XT32 with Sub EQ HT (for 2 subs) and Audyssey DSX, plus Audyssey MultEQ Pro Ready software would be real nice! Just need to get the licencing that's all. "Juste un pet!" (a French expression meaning "no sweat").
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Post by visiter555 on Oct 18, 2010 16:33:35 GMT -5
I would say they do not listen to anything as the AM tuner does not work for them (sorry I couldn't resist) . The bottom line is if you buy a product you would expect all the functions to work properly when you use it. I asked what they listened to on AM radio, not on the AM radio on the UMC-1, an honest question which is still not answered. You say maybe many listen to sports and news broadcasts, but I was asking for people to state what they actually listen to; may I assume you listen to news and sports broadcasts in you home on AM radio? ;D I listen to Football, Baseball & hockey as well as talk radio on AM radio. The only station that carries those broadcasts here is AM only.
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Post by autocrat on Oct 18, 2010 16:39:13 GMT -5
I asked what they listened to on AM radio, not on the AM radio on the UMC-1, an honest question which is still not answered. With all due respect, what makes you think that it's any of your business? What I listen to is nothing you need concern yourself about. The fact is that for some people, content is still king.
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Post by autocrat on Oct 18, 2010 16:45:23 GMT -5
What about cricket commentary on 702 ? HD won't help us in Oz - we need DAB+. Can't see this happening for a global product, so best take the tuner out/reduce the cost/put it into something else to make it a better processor. I almost ONLY want it for 702! You're right about HD radio, not applicable here; DAB+ plus FM would be perfect for me, even the bitstarved version we have here (not much better than AM anyway). But in the end, I agree with you about the XMC-1 - get rid of the radio and concentrate on the rest of the product. Maybe replace it with a component input ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2010 16:49:55 GMT -5
do go there.... ;D
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Post by jamrock on Oct 18, 2010 17:32:01 GMT -5
A good Phono amp section, yes, that I take. A good Headphone amp section, that too, I take. But more than anything else, in addition of those, give me the Sound Quality (both Analog & Digital), with top notch sections on both of these, plus a great (no, make that one of the very best) Auto Room EQ & Correction Speaker system, with of course state-of-the-art Bass Management, and finally (in addition to two HDMI outs v.1.4) the capability to have a full 11.2-channel system configuration. ...See, I'm not asking for too much now right? Yup, Audyssey MultEQ XT32 with Sub EQ HT (for 2 subs) and Audyssey DSX, plus Audyssey MultEQ Pro Ready software would be real nice! Just need to get the licencing that's all. "Juste un pet!" (a French expression meaning "no sweat"). I have a 7.2 and a 2.2 system. (Yes, I use 2 subs with my full range stereo pair). I could easily create a 9.2 H/T but that's as far as I am prepared to go. So, I agree with everything else in your post. But, I'm not confident that we can get the room correction you mentioned at the current proposed price. Therefore, I would suggest to Emo (as suggested by others) to drop the tuner to compensate for any added costs. I would also add a pass thru or active HDMI. My wife does not need to use a power amo, pre/pro, 7 main speakers and 2 subwoofers to watch the HGTV and the cooking channels! Now, I would certainly be happy if we could get such a XMC-1. ;D jamrock
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Post by aussie on Oct 18, 2010 17:53:10 GMT -5
As a international customer I knew before purchase the AM tuner would be of no use and this doesn't bother me one bit. Who in the heck listens to AM these days? I do however use FM though and it works here but it doesn't seem to be anything super, it'd be nice if they improved this on the XMC or very, very nice if they went HD. What about cricket commentary on 702 ? HD won't help us in Oz - we need DAB+. Can't see this happening for a global product, so best take the tuner out/reduce the cost/put it into something else to make it a better processor. oh doh, lol yes DAB sorry brain fart there. Nope I never use AM, not into sports. I'd much sooner a decent phono and headphone stage than AM radio or any radio for that matter. When I think about it most the time I listen to radio is in the back shed or in the car which means it's not in the loungroom lol.
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Post by wfdtamar on Oct 18, 2010 18:48:26 GMT -5
I must say the front of it is looking very ugly. The arrangement of buttons looks very 'engineer designed' (particularly the ones on the left). I can't tell what the functions of those buttons are but it looks to be an up/down, left/right thing. Perhaps a round touchpad the size of the volume knob would balance it better and not look so 'designed by a non-designer'?
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Post by LCSeminole on Oct 18, 2010 19:51:04 GMT -5
I asked what they listened to on AM radio, not on the AM radio on the UMC-1, an honest question which is still not answered. You say maybe many listen to sports and news broadcasts, but I was asking for people to state what they actually listen to; may I assume you listen to news and sports broadcasts in you home on AM radio? ;D I listen to Football, Baseball & hockey as well as talk radio on AM radio. The only station that carries those broadcasts here is AM only. I'll second the use of AM radio for College Sports talk, mainly Florida State University sports here in the Florida Panhandle, though recently they've started airing it on a weak FM frequency in parts of the city.
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Post by ÈlTwo on Oct 18, 2010 21:33:57 GMT -5
Thanks guys for the responses.
Very interesting, and I'd agree that an HD tuner (digital) here in the USA could be useful for sports commentary, since it's usually much better than the televised commentary.
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Post by roflcatdown on Oct 20, 2010 23:27:11 GMT -5
Just so I understand this...
If you buy the UMC-1 you can get 40% off of the XMC-1, even though they (Emotiva) still list the XMC-1 as being same-generation as the UMC-1... Will we still be able to use the 40% discount on the next model generation beyond the XMC-1 or do we simply lose out if we buy a UMC-1 now and don't upgrade to the XMC-1 in short order?
The reason I ask is because the 40% discount on a future generation purchase is appealing to me, but the whole point in buying the UMC with the idea of the discount becomes moot if it only means I have a relatively short period of time to turn around and spend MORE money buying the XMC-1. Frankly my wife would kill me if I bought (relatively) expensive home theater gear and turned around and bought new gear to replace what I bought (as opposed to simply augmenting what I have later) within less than 2-3 years.
If that's the case I'd be better off simply buying the UPC-1 stereo pre-amp to use in my man-cave and use the 40% to just buy the UMC-1. Heck, with the 40% discount you could buy the UPC-1 and the XMC-1 for $1000 total (plus shipping) rather than just get the XMC-1.
Basically while I love the idea of the XMC-1, the truth is that between purchasing it and an amp for my HT, the combination of the two is just outside my budget right now. (I'm in the middle of buying a house or this wouldn't even be something I'd be worrying about.)
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Post by ratmice on Oct 21, 2010 7:11:40 GMT -5
The upgrade is good on any future processor.
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Post by zman2k2 on Oct 21, 2010 9:14:47 GMT -5
Just so I understand this... If you buy the UMC-1 you can get 40% off of the XMC-1, even though they (Emotiva) still list the XMC-1 as being same-generation as the UMC-1... Will we still be able to use the 40% discount on the next model generation beyond the XMC-1 or do we simply lose out if we buy a UMC-1 now and don't upgrade to the XMC-1 in short order? The reason I ask is because the 40% discount on a future generation purchase is appealing to me, but the whole point in buying the UMC with the idea of the discount becomes moot if it only means I have a relatively short period of time to turn around and spend MORE money buying the XMC-1. Frankly my wife would kill me if I bought (relatively) expensive home theater gear and turned around and bought new gear to replace what I bought (as opposed to simply augmenting what I have later) within less than 2-3 years. If that's the case I'd be better off simply buying the UPC-1 stereo pre-amp to use in my man-cave and use the 40% to just buy the UMC-1. Heck, with the 40% discount you could buy the UPC-1 and the XMC-1 for $1000 total (plus shipping) rather than just get the XMC-1. Basically while I love the idea of the XMC-1, the truth is that between purchasing it and an amp for my HT, the combination of the two is just outside my budget right now. (I'm in the middle of buying a house or this wouldn't even be something I'd be worrying about.) I think you're confusing pre-amp and processor. If you buy the USP-1 stereo pre-amp, it will NOT give you a 40% discount towards the UMC-1 or XMC-1. They are different animals. It's all spelled out here on the upgrade page of the FAQ's section. emotiva.com/upgrade.shtm
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