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Post by cwt on May 23, 2013 0:55:14 GMT -5
No, it will read 24 bit regardless of the source, which can be 16, 17...23, 24 bits. If the source is 16 bits, the lossless decoder outputs 24 bits of data, the 8 LSBs being zeros. Thats interesting my old cary 11a used to distinguish between bit depths but it may have been only those discs with uncompressed 16/48 lpcm that didnt need the lossless decoder ;cant remember for sure
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Post by taxman2 on May 23, 2013 1:28:55 GMT -5
I think the tv should be switched off during the whole process. What happened to me was after uploading the fourth file my tv turned itself on. I switched it off and then continued with the upload of the rest of the files. Probably the reason you cannot upload the other 3 files has something to do with HDMI. Maybe the processor gets confused between uploading connecting via HDMI. It is just a guess.
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Post by davep on May 23, 2013 1:45:07 GMT -5
Thanks for the reply. The 200 is/was hooked up to a projector and I hadnt turned it on to start with (I figured theres no point putting a few hours on the bulb on a black screen). Its now sitting on the dining table at home, ready for my next attempts. Fingers crossed a third laptop and second USB cable will do the trick
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Post by hemster on May 23, 2013 2:19:32 GMT -5
I usually disconnect all cables and work only with the USB cable when doing the updates. With so much switching off and on you don't want to trigger your other gear, amps etc, needlessly. Also it removes variables such as CEC and HDMI EDID.
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Post by davep on May 23, 2013 2:37:08 GMT -5
I hadnt disconnected any other cables, but all CEC stuff is turned off in my setup. I really didnt want to disconnect them, as to reconnect them again, I have to remove 2 blu-ray players and a HD-DVD player on racking above it and its a good 1.5-2 hour job to put them all back neatly. Maybe I should have. I know I certainly should have not let the UMC power up the power amps before trying to start the firmware update - that was one hell of a bang.
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Post by cgolf on May 23, 2013 7:53:05 GMT -5
Wow!! 19 pages just on updating the UMC-200. Interesting. I finally got mine to take after many attempts and 2 hours of my time. Really can't pinpoint why it didn't take and then it finally did, etc. I know there were reasons just like there are reasons why some people's attempts have been smooth and some others weren't.
I haven't calibrated or finished setting mine up yet but I am quite happy with the sound so far, knowing that it will only improve geometrically as I tweak and calibrate!! ;D
I wish I had the time and patience to go through these 19 pages and catalogue the issues, problems and experiences to see what the patterns, if any, were.
If it was my company, I would want to know so I could make improvements to the right processes for next time!!
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Post by bootman on May 23, 2013 8:23:16 GMT -5
If it was my company, I would want to know so I could make improvements to the right processes for next time!! Release a new processor. If we had the xmc no one would be making a big deal about this. After all was the UMC-1 loader ever changed? (disclaimer: I never had an issue with that loader when I upgraded the UMC-1 I owned unlike many here) But once the UMC-200 was launched, that subject just went away.
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Post by punter45 on May 23, 2013 9:22:08 GMT -5
Just thought I would report that the upgrade went smoothly for me (sounds like I was one of the lucky ones maybe). I followed the .pdf set of instructions and finished in about 20 mins. The only problems I had was when I initially ran the EMO-Q auto setup -- the first time, it had my speaker distances way off (32' vs. 11'!). I re-ran it and everything seemed accurate the second time (the new firmware did not flag all my speakers as out of phase, which was nice to see). Not sure how it is possible, but the sound seems to be vastly improved -- much more dynamic. The sub sounds much better than before. First movie test brought both of my sons upstairs away from their video games to see what new piece of equipment I had purchased!
Overall, very satisfied. Sure, not quite as easy as updating the firmware on my Oppo 103 (press a button and wait for about 5 mins), but for the price to performance ratio, the UMC-200 is a real winner.
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Post by Chuck Elliot on May 23, 2013 9:38:57 GMT -5
You know, one thing I'd add to this thread in a heartbeat is a poll to see which systems this update is working on and which it isn't. There are differences that my be related! - Updated OK XP
- Updated OK Vista
- Updated OK Windows 7
- Updated OK Windows 8
- Problems XP
- Problems Vista
- Problems Windows 7
- Problems Windows 8
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Post by KeithL on May 23, 2013 9:42:21 GMT -5
Assuming you were using a nice normal (non audiophile, 6 foot or less in length) USB cable, and it still won't work (using either the regular or alternate method), with nothing else connected to the UMC-200, it's probably time to call Support..... sorry about the hassle.... I hadnt disconnected any other cables, but all CEC stuff is turned off in my setup. I really didnt want to disconnect them, as to reconnect them again, I have to remove 2 blu-ray players and a HD-DVD player on racking above it and its a good 1.5-2 hour job to put them all back neatly. Maybe I should have. I know I certainly should have not let the UMC power up the power amps before trying to start the firmware update - that was one hell of a bang.
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Post by bootman on May 23, 2013 13:02:37 GMT -5
Those of you still reporting weird Emo-Q issues, don't rule out the supplied microphone as a possible culprit. This is actually more common than you think with other gear that also supplies mics with their equipment.
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Post by 6month on May 23, 2013 13:26:58 GMT -5
hello all,
will the unit being shipped on 05/28/13 have the latest firmwear updates?
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Post by chaosrv on May 23, 2013 13:33:12 GMT -5
Yes
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Post by alhull on May 23, 2013 13:33:26 GMT -5
I finally jumped into the water yesterday to try this update, and the published 'official' procedure failed after the first (DSP2) module. Got into the now famous "Loading..." forever state. Tried 3 times, no joy. Tried the 'denist' procedure - it looked to be successful but file no. 2 in the list loaded up 'instantly' and said successful (not!). Finally tried it one more time, all 4 checked using 'denist' procedure, and all worked fine that time. About two hours total time for all these attempts. There HAS to be a better, easier, MORE RELIABLE way to do this. Why can't these be done over the web like any modern blu ray player can??
That being said, I reset to defaults, redid all my customized settings again, and ran EmoQ2. It was failing to recognize my Right Front speaker twice in a row. Finally moved the mike a bit closer (it was next to my head on the back of the couch. When I put it 1 ft in front of me and re-calibrated, everything worked this time and all the distances and phases were dead on. The speaker balance now for DTS HD Master Audio Blu Ray sources sound fantastic. Great channel separation and definition in the surrounds. I also noticed right away the mode selection is finally sticking. A DTS HD Master audio source now comes up and locks in as DTS HD Master instead of PLIIx all the time. Much better!!
All in all, a somewhat painful process, but the results are wonderful.
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Post by LCSeminole on May 23, 2013 13:37:25 GMT -5
hello all, will the unit being shipped on 05/28/13 have the latest firmwear updates? My "guess" would be yes it would have the latest firmware, but for a definite answer give Emotiva a call.
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Post by KeithL on May 23, 2013 14:10:54 GMT -5
All UMC-200's shipped starting *NOW* will have the latest firmware (and that includes factory renewed ones). hello all, will the unit being shipped on 05/28/13 have the latest firmwear updates? My "guess" would be yes it would have the latest firmware, but for a definite answer give Emotiva a call.
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Post by mooltittle on May 23, 2013 15:01:30 GMT -5
Can I make a suggestion to everyone who is having trouble getting the firmware to update successfully?
It has been stated several times in this thread that you should not leave a USB cable attached to the UMC-200 because it can pick up EMI (Electro-Magnetic Interference) that could cause the UMC-200 to behave erratically. That indicates to me that the UMC-200's USB port is overly sensitive to EMI.
Therefore, my suggestion is to attempt the firmware update in a room that's as free of EMI as possible: Have the UMC-200 connected only to a laptop. Turn off all your other electronics in the room. Turn off all fluorescent lights, all lights on dimmers, and appliances with motors like fans - those things can put out boatloads of EMI. Use a short, high-quality USB cable with a good shield.
HTH and good luck.
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Post by 6month on May 23, 2013 15:09:25 GMT -5
hello keithl,
i just called and no one was available to answer the lates firmwear on the factory reewed units question.
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Post by iceman076 on May 23, 2013 15:13:29 GMT -5
Update went good but can not get dolby true or dts master to work (no sound) all the other sound formats work I double check audio setup on dvd player everything good Just called Emotiva waiting on tech to call back
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Post by KeithL on May 23, 2013 15:15:13 GMT -5
Also, try a few different things with microphone position: * Remember that the microphone has to be in a position near where your ears will be when you listen. (If you sit it next to your head, then is your head blocking it from any of the speakers? Better to put it on the seat back where your head normally is, then go stand in the back of the room.) * Beware of shiny surfaces. If you sit the mic on the back of a shiny plastic chair, the reflections from the chair may mess everything up. Try hanging a towel over the back of the chair, and then sitting the microphone on that. * We had quite a few mic failures with the UMC-1; but so far VERY few with the UMC-200 (but it's always possible). Those of you still reporting weird Emo-Q issues, don't rule out the supplied microphone as a possible culprit. This is actually more common than you think with other gear that also supplies mics with their equipment.
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