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Post by cawgijoe on Oct 14, 2014 22:49:18 GMT -5
I changed my Harmony One remote to go to Analog 2 on the XMC-1 and that seemed to work. So, even though I'm actually using HDMI 1, it's thinking Analog 2. Very strange. I will try the rest of the inputs tommorrow.
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Post by geebo on Oct 14, 2014 22:52:46 GMT -5
In my copy of the preliminary manual there is one mention of the harmony Remote: "XMC-1 IR Remote Control Codes Information in this section is still Preliminary. The final version will contain a list of the IR Remote Control codes - for use with harmony and other universal remotes." I don't have a Harmony Ultimate. Just a Harmony One. Worked great with the UMC-200. You may have to go into the Harmony setup program and tell it how you select inputs in the XMC. I changed the default to the direct selection type and was then prompted to select and teach the proper commands. I now have direct input commands in the Harmony Ultimate for the XMC that can be used in the activity setup. I just used Input button 1 for HDMI 1, Input button 2 for HDMI 2 etc. You would then only have to go into the XMC setup and assign the input buttons accordingly ie HDMI 1 uses button 1, HDMI 2 used button two etc.
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Post by JNieves on Oct 15, 2014 19:17:39 GMT -5
You may have to go into the Harmony setup program and tell it how you select inputs in the XMC. I changed the default to the direct selection type and was then prompted to select and teach the proper commands. I now have direct input commands in the Harmony Ultimate for the XMC that can be used in the activity setup. I just used Input button 1 for HDMI 1, Input button 2 for HDMI 2 etc. You would then only have to go into the XMC setup and assign the input buttons accordingly ie HDMI 1 uses button 1, HDMI 2 used button two etc. Thank you! Weird Harmony Ultimate behavior eliminated.
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Post by melm on Oct 15, 2014 20:38:39 GMT -5
I did something similar training the Harmony One to learn the 8 direct buttons, then reassigned them. It works, but it is a work around that people should not have to do.
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Post by geebo on Oct 15, 2014 20:45:02 GMT -5
I did something similar training the Harmony One to learn the 8 direct buttons, then reassigned them. It works, but it is a work around that people should not have to do. Well the direct input buttons of the XMC-1 are assignable so there is no way for Logitech to know what input "Input 1" will select on all XMC's. I can't think of anyway for Logitech to do this without user input of some kind. And what I did I wouldn't call a workaround but rather configuration using the tools provided with the Harmony software. What would you suggest?
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Post by multicore on Oct 15, 2014 20:56:51 GMT -5
I did something similar training the Harmony One to learn the 8 direct buttons, then reassigned them. It works, but it is a work around that people should not have to do. Well the direct input buttons of the XMC-1 are assignable so there is no way for Logitech to know what input "Input 1" will select on all XMC's. I can't think of anyway for Logitech to do this without user input of some kind. And what I did I wouldn't call a workaround but rather configuration using the tools provided with the Harmony software. What would you suggest? I programmed my harmony exactly the same way based on Geebo's suggestion about 4 weeks ago. Pretty straight forward 2 step process: teach the harmony the 8 inputs from the XMC-1 remote and then use those in the activities. What I thought would have been in the logitech database was the generic codes corresponding to the XMC-1 remote input buttons. You are right, logitech does not have to know what they do, just send them to the XMC-1 and the XMC does whatever you programmed them to do in your input definitions. You do have to give the Harmony inputs more logical names than Input <n>, but that is it.
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Post by melm on Oct 15, 2014 21:30:15 GMT -5
Right, but every other device I've used with the Harmony works differently.
If I say activate HDMI 1, I expect the Harmony Remote, loaded with the XMC codes to activate HDMI 1.
So I would say having to use the presets is a bit of a workaround.
Didn't have to do this with my Oppo, my ERC-3, my AppleTV, etc etc.
Mel
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Post by geebo on Oct 15, 2014 21:55:57 GMT -5
Right, but every other device I've used with the Harmony works differently. If I say activate HDMI 1, I expect the Harmony Remote, loaded with the XMC codes to activate HDMI 1. So I would say having to use the presets is a bit of a workaround. Didn't have to do this with my Oppo, my ERC-3, my AppleTV, etc etc. Mel But which of those have assignable input buttons?
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Post by DellaDog on Oct 15, 2014 21:59:38 GMT -5
Right, but every other device I've used with the Harmony works differently. If I say activate HDMI 1, I expect the Harmony Remote, loaded with the XMC codes to activate HDMI 1. So I would say having to use the presets is a bit of a workaround. Didn't have to do this with my Oppo, my ERC-3, my AppleTV, etc etc. Mel How would you tell the Harmony you want to select separate video and audio? Whatever combination you decide to give an input ( XMC button ) , that's the input you give to Harmony remote.
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Post by melm on Oct 15, 2014 22:28:00 GMT -5
Sure, that's a good use for the pre-sets, but it doesn't explain why the code don't work as normal. In the majority of cases people want a direct activation of the input. That doesn't work, and it should.
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Post by cawgijoe on Oct 16, 2014 5:13:56 GMT -5
Sure, that's a good use for the pre-sets, but it doesn't explain why the code don't work as normal. In the majority of cases people want a direct activation of the input. That doesn't work, and it should. That's the part I don't understand. If set up an activity and tell Harmony on their website that I want to use HDMI 1 while using the XMC 1, should it not switch to HDMI 1? It doesn't do that.
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Post by geebo on Oct 16, 2014 6:56:11 GMT -5
It may be because there simply are no "HDMI 1" or "HDMI X" remote commands. Maybe they do exist but Logitech doesn't have them if they do and I don't see why Emotiva would withhold them from Logitech. But there are commands for the input buttons on the remote. We have the flexibility to assign what inputs we choose to those buttons then they become the HDMI-1 or HDMI 2 or Analog In or Coax 2 or whatever we desire. It's a 10 or 15 minutes and your done. It's very simple. And later if you change some physical connections all that has to be done to keep the activity working is to re-assign the input in the XMC. No need to go through the Harmony software and change the activity and perform a re-synch.
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Post by cawgijoe on Oct 16, 2014 7:29:07 GMT -5
It may be because there simply are no "HDMI 1" or "HDMI X" remote commands. Maybe they do exist but Logitech doesn't have them if they do and I don't see why Emotiva would withhold them from Logitech. But there are commands for the input buttons on the remote. We have the flexibility to assign what inputs we choose to those buttons then they become the HDMI-1 or HDMI 2 or Analog In or Coax 2 or whatever we desire. It's a 10 or 15 minutes and your done. It's very simple. And later if you change some physical connections all that has to be done to keep the activity working is to re-assign the input in the XMC. No need to go through the Harmony software and change the activity and perform a re-synch. Thanks geebo. I'm dumb when it comes to this stuff. if you have time, do you mind outlining the procedure, step by step, for assigning one of those input buttons on the remote? Thanks
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Post by geebo on Oct 16, 2014 7:54:57 GMT -5
It may be because there simply are no "HDMI 1" or "HDMI X" remote commands. Maybe they do exist but Logitech doesn't have them if they do and I don't see why Emotiva would withhold them from Logitech. But there are commands for the input buttons on the remote. We have the flexibility to assign what inputs we choose to those buttons then they become the HDMI-1 or HDMI 2 or Analog In or Coax 2 or whatever we desire. It's a 10 or 15 minutes and your done. It's very simple. And later if you change some physical connections all that has to be done to keep the activity working is to re-assign the input in the XMC. No need to go through the Harmony software and change the activity and perform a re-synch. Thanks geebo. I'm dumb when it comes to this stuff. if you have time, do you mind outlining the procedure, step by step, for assigning one of those input buttons on the remote? Thanks I'm not where I can outline it now because although my memory is outstanding, it's pretty short. I can check it out tonight. What Harmony remote do you have? Basically, you select the device and then change or configure that device. One of the steps in there is how your device changes inputs. There are three options on the screen and the middle one is default. I chose the top one and then the software led me the rest of the way. But I'd be happy to get more detailed tonight when I'm in front of the computer with the Harmony program.
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Post by cawgijoe on Oct 16, 2014 8:22:06 GMT -5
Thanks geebo. I'm dumb when it comes to this stuff. if you have time, do you mind outlining the procedure, step by step, for assigning one of those input buttons on the remote? Thanks I'm not where I can outline it now because although my memory is outstanding, it's pretty short. I can check it out tonight. What Harmony remote do you have? Basically, you select the device and then change or configure that device. One of the steps in there is how your device changes inputs. There are three options on the screen and the middle one is default. I chose the top one and then the software led me the rest of the way. But I'd be happy to get more detailed tonight when I'm in front of the computer with the Harmony program. I have a Harmony One remote. That would be absolutely wonderful if you could do that tonight.
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Post by novisnick on Oct 16, 2014 8:35:10 GMT -5
I'm not where I can outline it now because although my memory is outstanding, it's pretty short. I can check it out tonight. What Harmony remote do you have? Basically, you select the device and then change or configure that device. One of the steps in there is how your device changes inputs. There are three options on the screen and the middle one is default. I chose the top one and then the software led me the rest of the way. But I'd be happy to get more detailed tonight when I'm in front of the computer with the Harmony program. I have a Harmony One remote. That would be absolutely wonderful if you could do that tonight. geebo ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by geebo on Oct 16, 2014 8:58:52 GMT -5
I'm not where I can outline it now because although my memory is outstanding, it's pretty short. I can check it out tonight. What Harmony remote do you have? Basically, you select the device and then change or configure that device. One of the steps in there is how your device changes inputs. There are three options on the screen and the middle one is default. I chose the top one and then the software led me the rest of the way. But I'd be happy to get more detailed tonight when I'm in front of the computer with the Harmony program. I have a Harmony One remote. That would be absolutely wonderful if you could do that tonight. I have a Harmony 900 so I can try to bring up that version of the software and see the steps there. I believe it uses the same software as the One.
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Post by geebo on Oct 16, 2014 20:05:02 GMT -5
I'm not where I can outline it now because although my memory is outstanding, it's pretty short. I can check it out tonight. What Harmony remote do you have? Basically, you select the device and then change or configure that device. One of the steps in there is how your device changes inputs. There are three options on the screen and the middle one is default. I chose the top one and then the software led me the rest of the way. But I'd be happy to get more detailed tonight when I'm in front of the computer with the Harmony program. I have a Harmony One remote. That would be absolutely wonderful if you could do that tonight. Turns out the 900 and the Ultimate use different methods and different software. What follows is the process I used for testing with my Harmony 900. I think the 900 and the One should use the same procedure. This is assuming you have already added the XMC-1 device to your Harmony remote. Start the Harmony software then: Choose "Devices"
Select "Settings" for the XMC-1 device
Select "Adjust Inputs"
Select "Next"
Select "Method 2"
Select "Next"
On the next screen you can rename any of the inputs if desired and delete those you'll not use for now. You can keep any seven to match the Input buttons on the XMC remote. You can add inputs later so don't be afraid to remove any unused inputs. It will simplify things for you later. When done...
Select "Next"
Select "Learn"
You will be prompted to connect the remote to the computer and go through the learn process. Wait till the first of your inputs appears in the box. In my Harmony 900 I only kept HDMI 1, 2 and 3 for this test. The learn screen prompted me to teach Input HDMI 1 and when successful a prompt for Input HDMI 2 appeared followed by Input HDMI 3. I taught XMC Button 1 to HDMI 1, Button 2 to HDMI 2 and Input Button 3 to HDMI 3. After all are learned choose:
"Next"
Select "Done"
Select "Done" again
Update the remote.Now when you set up an activity using the XMC you will be able to choose from the inputs you had just set up. In my case I had:
HDMI 1HDMI 2HDMI 3to choose from.All you need to do now is assign Input Button 1 of the XMC to HDMI 1 in the XMC setup screens and any others you want will also have to be assigned to a button. In my case above, I assigned HDMI 2 to Button 2 and HDMI 3 to Button 3. Now Input Button 1 is essentially HDMI 1, Input Button 2 is HDMI 2 etc.One more important thing. If you are not using video standby mode (like me) you will have to set the Power On Delay of the XMC device in the Harmony to a value that will allow the XMC to boot up before attempting to change inputs. I use 47,500 ms (47.5 seconds.) Hope this helps.
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Post by ÈlTwo on Oct 16, 2014 20:12:01 GMT -5
I'd still love for Emotiva to publish the codes
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Post by cawgijoe on Oct 16, 2014 21:49:34 GMT -5
Geebo.....thanks very much! Extremely helpful to me and hopefully others.
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