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Post by eclypse on Apr 14, 2016 14:26:55 GMT -5
Set them to 70hz earlier today and loved rhe sound. Gave my wife who was off of work a listen to 3 good sounding songs I have on the pc and didn't say anything to her.. she said it sounded good and I said it sounds like it's coming from the middle speaker right? She says yes. I pull the speaker cable from the center to show her it's just coming from the mains and she was shocked hehe.. it's just stereo and the whole center area here is where all the sounds are being projected from.  To say the lest she was impressed with the sound quality. Wish she could get I to it more so I won't have to bug much about a new subwoofer haha Free 30 day rental!!  www.powersoundaudio.comThanks but I was thinking of www.svsound.com/. Grab a sealed 2000 or reg pb12 plus since I could seal it for music and open for movies. |
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Apr 14, 2016 15:04:57 GMT -5
Post by klinemj on Apr 14, 2016 15:04:57 GMT -5
Go Rythmik!
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Apr 14, 2016 15:35:21 GMT -5
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Post by pedrocols on Apr 14, 2016 15:35:21 GMT -5
Despite the theoretical "benefits" of the crossover, I've had the best blend by just running my main speakers full range & using the low-pass crossover on the sub's plate amp to blend the sub. If you USE the crossover on the XSP-1, then both high and low pass are unbalanced (despite the fact that you can still use the XLR outputs). I think that the extra circuitry also flattens the dynamics of the sound. My (now previous) XSP-1 sounded better when not using the high-pass crossover. Boomzilla I had the same experience when I had the USP-1. Running the mains full range off the USP-1 seemed to convey a fuller sound. |
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Apr 14, 2016 15:53:54 GMT -5
Post by brutiarti on Apr 14, 2016 15:53:54 GMT -5
Despite the theoretical "benefits" of the crossover, I've had the best blend by just running my main speakers full range & using the low-pass crossover on the sub's plate amp to blend the sub. If you USE the crossover on the XSP-1, then both high and low pass are unbalanced (despite the fact that you can still use the XLR outputs). I think that the extra circuitry also flattens the dynamics of the sound. My (now previous) XSP-1 sounded better when not using the high-pass crossover. Boomzilla I had the same experience when I had the USP-1. Running the mains full range off the USP-1 seemed to convey a fuller sound. +1 for running the speakers full range for 2-ch and use the low pass in the subs |
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May 6, 2016 9:02:57 GMT -5
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Post by eclypse on May 6, 2016 9:02:57 GMT -5
Quick question..
Direct on or off?
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Post by novisnick on May 6, 2016 9:50:31 GMT -5
Quick question.. Direct on or off? Colored or uncolored? |
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Post by eclypse on May 6, 2016 10:34:27 GMT -5
Quick question.. Direct on or off? Colored or uncolored? Is that setting like on a reciever where if you don't want the reciever to chage the sound at all you select direct? I'm playing my music from a pc connected to the dc-1 out to the xsp-1. When direct is off on the xsp-1 it reports tone controls are on even though I have the hf/lf controls at 0. If I select direct on it just reports direct. Sounds much better with direct off but I don't really understand what that setting is doing? Am I hearing the xsp-1 do it's thing to the sound with direct off and with direct on I'm hearing the sound straight from the dc-1 un ultered? |
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May 6, 2016 10:48:53 GMT -5
Post by KeithL on May 6, 2016 10:48:53 GMT -5
Basically, with "direct off", the tone control circuitry is "in circuit" - even when it's set to flat; with "direct on", the tone control circuitry is totally bypassed. With direct off you're going through the equivalent of an extra buffer stage - which really shouldn't specifically improve anything. Is that setting like on a reciever where if you don't want the reciever to chage the sound at all you select direct? I'm playing my music from a pc connected to the dc-1 out to the xsp-1. When direct is off on the xsp-1 it reports tone controls are on even though I have the hf/lf controls at 0. If I select direct on it just reports direct. Sounds much better with direct off but I don't really understand what that setting is doing? Am I hearing the xsp-1 do it's thing to the sound with direct off and with direct on I'm hearing the sound straight from the dc-1 un ultered? |
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May 6, 2016 10:56:21 GMT -5
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Post by eclypse on May 6, 2016 10:56:21 GMT -5
Basically, with "direct off", the tone control circuitry is "in circuit" - even when it's set to flat; with "direct on", the tone control circuitry is totally bypassed. With direct off you're going through the equivalent of an extra buffer stage - which really shouldn't specifically improve anything. Is that setting like on a reciever where if you don't want the reciever to chage the sound at all you select direct? I'm playing my music from a pc connected to the dc-1 out to the xsp-1. When direct is off on the xsp-1 it reports tone controls are on even though I have the hf/lf controls at 0. If I select direct on it just reports direct. Sounds much better with direct off but I don't really understand what that setting is doing? Am I hearing the xsp-1 do it's thing to the sound with direct off and with direct on I'm hearing the sound straight from the dc-1 un ultered? So am I right with hearing the sound louder with direct off? Why would one want to use direct? |
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Post by doc1963 on May 6, 2016 12:55:20 GMT -5
Basically, with "direct off", the tone control circuitry is "in circuit" - even when it's set to flat; with "direct on", the tone control circuitry is totally bypassed. With direct off you're going through the equivalent of an extra buffer stage - which really shouldn't specifically improve anything. So am I right with hearing the sound louder with direct off? Why would one want to use direct? The only function of the "Direct" mode on the XSP-1 is to take the "tone" contour circuitry (hi/low frequency > boost/cut) in or out of the signal path. In the "Direct On" mode, you have no tone controls in the path, "Direct Off", you do. So, yes, in the "Direct Off" mode with both the hi and low frequency boosts maxed out, it might seem a bit louder, but only at the frequencies affected by the tone control circuitry. Why would anyone want to use the "Direct" mode...  Why wouldn't you? The only time you should need to use the frequency trims is to tame an occasional bright recording or boost one that's a little light on bass (or possibly the other way around). Other than for those reasons, you should "want" to keep the signal path as clean and short as possible. Hope this helps...  |
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May 6, 2016 13:03:12 GMT -5
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Post by eclypse on May 6, 2016 13:03:12 GMT -5
So am I right with hearing the sound louder with direct off? Why would one want to use direct? The only function of the "Direct" mode on the XSP-1 is to take the "tone" contour circuitry (hi/low frequency > boost/cut) in or out of the signal path. In the "Direct On" mode, you have no tone controls in the path, "Direct Off", you do. So, yes, in the "Direct Off" mode with both the hi and low frequency boosts maxed out, it might seem a bit louder, but only at the frequencies affected by the tone control circuitry. Why would anyone want to use the "Direct" mode... Why wouldn't you? The only time you should need to use the frequency trims is to tame an occasional bright recording or boost one that's a little light on bass (or possibly the other way around). Other than for those reasons, you should "want" to keep the signal path as clean and short as possible. Hope this helps... Ok thanks doc! I guess i need to take another listen to it when I get a chance. Though I did say it sounded louder with direct mode off and the tone controls at 0 bit who knows at 15 feet away I might of had them active and didn't know. |
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Post by novisnick on May 6, 2016 13:05:34 GMT -5
Is that setting like on a reciever where if you don't want the reciever to chage the sound at all you select direct? I'm playing my music from a pc connected to the dc-1 out to the xsp-1. When direct is off on the xsp-1 it reports tone controls are on even though I have the hf/lf controls at 0. If I select direct on it just reports direct. Sounds much better with direct off but I don't really understand what that setting is doing? Am I hearing the xsp-1 do it's thing to the sound with direct off and with direct on I'm hearing the sound straight from the dc-1 un ultered? Unaltered, yes. To the best of my knowledge. |
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May 6, 2016 14:19:40 GMT -5
Post by jackpine on May 6, 2016 14:19:40 GMT -5
My brother reports the same thing he likes the sound better with direct off and tone controls at zero. I'll have to try it again with mine. I tried before but don't remember what I thought. My brothers system is more resolving than mine.
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May 6, 2016 14:49:17 GMT -5
Post by mgbpuff on May 6, 2016 14:49:17 GMT -5
If you are using the balanced outputs and wish to keep full quad differential circuitry from balanced signal input to balanced output, then you must set direct mode on.
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May 6, 2016 16:03:57 GMT -5
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Post by eclypse on May 6, 2016 16:03:57 GMT -5
If you are using the balanced outputs and wish to keep full quad differential circuitry from balanced signal input to balanced output, then you must set direct mode on. Am I getting balanced mode if I'm using balanced in from the dc-1 and balanced out to the amps? |
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May 6, 2016 16:04:33 GMT -5
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Post by eclypse on May 6, 2016 16:04:33 GMT -5
My brother reports the same thing he likes the sound better with direct off and tone controls at zero. I'll have to try it again with mine. I tried before but don't remember what I thought. My brothers system is more resolving than mine. Thanks for the info. Let me know if you can tell any difference with your setup. |
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Post by garbulky on May 6, 2016 16:08:46 GMT -5
If you are using the balanced outputs and wish to keep full quad differential circuitry from balanced signal input to balanced output, then you must set direct mode on. Am I getting balanced mode if I'm using balanced in from the dc-1 and balanced out to the amps? Yes if bass management is not engaged. |
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May 6, 2016 16:19:51 GMT -5
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Post by eclypse on May 6, 2016 16:19:51 GMT -5
Am I getting balanced mode if I'm using balanced in from the dc-1 and balanced out to the amps? Yes if bass management is not engaged. Thanks! |
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Post by garbulky on May 6, 2016 17:24:41 GMT -5
Yes if bass management is not engaged. Thanks! But you should know the XPA-2 and XPA-3 are not fully balanced. |
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Post by eclypse on May 6, 2016 19:45:37 GMT -5
But you should know the XPA-2 and XPA-3 are not fully balanced. So say I can buy another amp or 2.. which ones are? Oe whats best to bi amp these with? I've got a pair of xpa-1L runing the top of the polk audio lsim 705s and xpa-2 gen 1 runing the low end of the speakers in bi amp. |
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Why wouldn't you? The only time you should need to use the frequency trims is to tame an occasional bright recording or boost one that's a little light on bass (or possibly the other way around). Other than for those reasons, you should "want" to keep the signal path as clean and short as possible.
