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Post by The Mad Norseman on Jun 2, 2012 16:26:19 GMT -5
A few random thoughts on the coming XPR series of amps... 1) Odd that an Emo moderator started this (now long!) thread, but I can't see where ANY moderator has participated since! 2) Wonder why there's no XPR-3 in the mix? The "cure" for the 'low-power AVR' idea is an excellent one IMO! And a three channel amp is just the ticket. 3) I hope Emo's XPR amps utilize an adjustable gain feature for each channel - just like the new Parasound A31 (3 x 250w), and Parasound 5250v.2 (5 x 250w) do. This is an astute recognition that MANY of us use AVRs as surround pre-pros and is a great market to take advantage of (me included!  ). 4) Adjustable gain (say, +/- 6db from the THX standard of 29db would be perfect. This would satisfy the 'AVR as a pre-pro', and the 'I don't like high gain amps' crowds both! (Also see No. 4 above). 5) I'm waiting to see what this XPR line comes out to be, specs, dimensions, weights, rear panel connectivity, gain options, and most of all - all of those initial user reviews!...in the meantime I'm planning and designing, plotting & scheming... Excited about it all? Yup. ;D |
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Post by barbcue on Jun 10, 2012 18:27:36 GMT -5
please gives us the XPR-7 !... waiting with cash in hand..
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Post by jlafrenz on Jun 10, 2012 18:46:15 GMT -5
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Post by solidstate on Jun 10, 2012 18:55:32 GMT -5
I'd also like to see the gain set to 28/29 not 32 for these new amps.
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Post by bootman on Jun 11, 2012 7:59:57 GMT -5
A few random thoughts on the coming XPR series of amps... 1) Odd that an Emo moderator started this (now long!) thread, but I can't see where ANY moderator has participated since! Emotiva employees do not actively participate in the forums on a daily basis. So if you have a specific question you will need to call them. This forum is really for the members and we know as much as you do. |
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Post by hemster on Jun 11, 2012 23:49:21 GMT -5
^ +1. And moderators know no more about the upcoming products than anyone else here.
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Post by Darksky on Jun 12, 2012 0:08:18 GMT -5
Hemster, you don't have to pretend...
He already has:
XMC-1
XPR-7
ERC-3
Xref-15
and that's just in his garage
How's that for odd? -cue X files soundtrack
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Post by roadrunner on Jun 12, 2012 11:40:35 GMT -5
Hemster, you don't have to pretend... He already has: XMC-1 XPR-7 ERC-3 Xref-15 and that's just in his garage How's that for odd? -cue X files soundtrack Hmmm. That's strange. They sent me the RMC-1 (XMC-1's big brother), XPR-1 x 2, XPR-5, XDA-2, XSP-1, ERC-3, and XRef-15. ;D ;D |
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Post by GS on Jun 12, 2012 13:05:28 GMT -5
Hemster, you don't have to pretend... He already has: XMC-1 XPR-7 ERC-3 Xref-15 and that's just in his garage How's that for odd? -cue X files soundtrack Hmmm. That's strange. They sent me the RMC-1 (XMC-1's big brother), XPR-1 x 2, XPR-5, XDA-2, XSP-1, ERC-3, and XRef-15. ;D ;D You have really received these emotiva gear? Jerry |
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Post by Pauly on Jun 12, 2012 13:10:54 GMT -5
Uhhh, no.
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Post by Bonzo on Jun 12, 2012 13:24:38 GMT -5
Long time gone from this forum, but I've been lurking back in to see what's going on lately. Sorry for being out of it and seeming stupid here. I was finally planning to make the jump this summer on a XPA-2 when they go on sale. Until today I was really starting to get excited. Now I read there are new versions of amps coming out that trump the old ones. But I've read this entire thread and I don't get much but pics and speculation. The gist I get is this: More power. Old XPA-5 is 200x5 while the new XPR-5 might be 350x5. The old XPA is Class AB correct? So are all these new XPR amps class H like the Sherbourn? If so, what does that mean exactly? More blingy looking with blue mood lights. We know this for sure from the pics. Subjective. More $$$$$, like over twice as much as the comparable XPA. Speculated as to what the "more" will be, but it will be more. Then everything else seems to be subjective or wishful thinking. The big question is, will they sound that much better as to justify the higher prices? It would certainly be nice to get at least a preliminary report as to what they are shooting for with these, along with preliminary pricing. I was drawn to Emotiva because of the price to performance ratio being off the chart. Since it's taken me this long to get in the realm of the $799 XPA-2, I can't say I want to be now spending $2000. That puts me back up in with the other expensive amps I've never been able to buy.  Now I feel like I'm sort of in a bad spot. Do I stay the course and get the XPA-2, or do I wait even longer? Are these new amps just a new level, like say Lexus to Toyota, or will they be replacing the XPA line? Now I'm back to being frustrated and confused, and funny, but I feel a bit pissed off at the moment too. Not Emotiva's fault for sure, but just human frustration getting the better of me I guess. Any help you can off would be great. Thanks ---- Bonzo |
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Post by tchaik on Jun 12, 2012 14:23:17 GMT -5
Long time gone from this forum, but I've been lurking back in to see what's going on lately. Sorry for being out of it and seeming stupid here. I was finally planning to make the jump this summer on a XPA-2 when they go on sale. Until today I was really starting to get excited. Now I read there are new versions of amps coming out that trump the old ones. But I've read this entire thread and I don't get much but pics and speculation. The gist I get is this: More power. Old XPA-5 is 200x5 while the new XPR-5 might be 350x5. The old XPA is Class AB correct? So are all these new XPR amps class H like the Sherbourn? If so, what does that mean exactly? More blingy looking with blue mood lights. We know this for sure from the pics. Subjective. More $$$$$, like over twice as much as the comparable XPA. Speculated as to what the "more" will be, but it will be more. Then everything else seems to be subjective or wishful thinking. The big question is, will they sound that much better as to justify the higher prices? It would certainly be nice to get at least a preliminary report as to what they are shooting for with these, along with preliminary pricing. I was drawn to Emotiva because of the price to performance ratio being off the chart. Since it's taken me this long to get in the realm of the $799 XPA-2, I can't say I want to be now spending $2000. That puts me back up in with the other expensive amps I've never been able to buy. Now I feel like I'm sort of in a bad spot. Do I stay the course and get the XPA-2, or do I wait even longer? Are these new amps just a new level, like say Lexus to Toyota, or will they be replacing the XPA line? Now I'm back to being frustrated and confused, and funny, but I feel a bit pissed off at the moment too. Not Emotiva's fault for sure, but just human frustration getting the better of me I guess. Any help you can off would be great. Thanks ---- Bonzo i would still go with the xpa-2. its sound will not change no matter what else shows up later. it is a great amp. tchaik.......... |
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Post by Topend on Jun 12, 2012 14:25:29 GMT -5
Long time gone from this forum, but I've been lurking back in to see what's going on lately. Sorry for being out of it and seeming stupid here. I was finally planning to make the jump this summer on a XPA-2 when they go on sale. Until today I was really starting to get excited. Now I read there are new versions of amps coming out that trump the old ones. But I've read this entire thread and I don't get much but pics and speculation. The gist I get is this: More power. Old XPA-5 is 200x5 while the new XPR-5 might be 350x5. The old XPA is Class AB correct? So are all these new XPR amps class H like the Sherbourn? If so, what does that mean exactly? More blingy looking with blue mood lights. We know this for sure from the pics. Subjective. More $$$$$, like over twice as much as the comparable XPA. Speculated as to what the "more" will be, but it will be more. Then everything else seems to be subjective or wishful thinking. The big question is, will they sound that much better as to justify the higher prices? It would certainly be nice to get at least a preliminary report as to what they are shooting for with these, along with preliminary pricing. I was drawn to Emotiva because of the price to performance ratio being off the chart. Since it's taken me this long to get in the realm of the $799 XPA-2, I can't say I want to be now spending $2000. That puts me back up in with the other expensive amps I've never been able to buy. Now I feel like I'm sort of in a bad spot. Do I stay the course and get the XPA-2, or do I wait even longer? Are these new amps just a new level, like say Lexus to Toyota, or will they be replacing the XPA line? Now I'm back to being frustrated and confused, and funny, but I feel a bit pissed off at the moment too. Not Emotiva's fault for sure, but just human frustration getting the better of me I guess. Any help you can off would be great. Thanks ---- Bonzo Get the XPA amp. Most likely the only "more" in the XPR amps that will be noticeable will be the weight. Dave. |
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Post by roadrunner on Jun 12, 2012 16:54:19 GMT -5
Bonzo
The new XPR amps will be coming later this year. The first will probably be up for sale in the next month. No information is available on the timing of when the other XPR Series amps are released. These amps are H topology and will have mucho more power than the XPA Series. The sound quality between the two lines is going to be very similar.
If the XPA-2 has all the power you need, then go ahead and buy it. You are not likely to notice any difference in sound quality; and, if you do, it will be a very subtle difference. More power, more headroom, and cooler running are the primary advantages of the XPR amps. They will be built with transformers having nearly 3 times the capacity of the of the XPA-2.
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Post by Entity on Jun 12, 2012 17:10:46 GMT -5
They are a different series with a higher price point. They aren't replacing the XPA's.
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Post by LCSeminole on Jun 12, 2012 17:47:35 GMT -5
Long time gone from this forum, but I've been lurking back in to see what's going on lately. Sorry for being out of it and seeming stupid here. I was finally planning to make the jump this summer on a XPA-2 when they go on sale. Until today I was really starting to get excited. Now I read there are new versions of amps coming out that trump the old ones. But I've read this entire thread and I don't get much but pics and speculation. The gist I get is this: More power. Old XPA-5 is 200x5 while the new XPR-5 might be 350x5. The old XPA is Class AB correct? So are all these new XPR amps class H like the Sherbourn? If so, what does that mean exactly? More blingy looking with blue mood lights. We know this for sure from the pics. Subjective. More $$$$$, like over twice as much as the comparable XPA. Speculated as to what the "more" will be, but it will be more. Then everything else seems to be subjective or wishful thinking. The big question is, will they sound that much better as to justify the higher prices? It would certainly be nice to get at least a preliminary report as to what they are shooting for with these, along with preliminary pricing. I was drawn to Emotiva because of the price to performance ratio being off the chart. Since it's taken me this long to get in the realm of the $799 XPA-2, I can't say I want to be now spending $2000. That puts me back up in with the other expensive amps I've never been able to buy. Now I feel like I'm sort of in a bad spot. Do I stay the course and get the XPA-2, or do I wait even longer? Are these new amps just a new level, like say Lexus to Toyota, or will they be replacing the XPA line? Now I'm back to being frustrated and confused, and funny, but I feel a bit pissed off at the moment too. Not Emotiva's fault for sure, but just human frustration getting the better of me I guess. Any help you can off would be great. Thanks ---- Bonzo Bonzo, The following was posted by Big Dan a couple of weeks ago, and hopefully this clears up any and all of your questions. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Hi guys, The XPA-1 is the only Differential Reference amplifier in the line for now. It is designed to complement our other Differential Reference components, such as the ERC-2, the the XSP-1,etc. All of these components features truly balanced circuit topologies (not just balanced connectors). We are working on a baby brother for the XPA-1 but it's not something to think about until next year. Now as far as lines are concerned, the XPA Series is not being replaced by the XPR series. They are two distinct lines. X is our core line. This is the heart and soul of Emotiva. It will also be our largest line of products. Ultra is our value line, designed to bring high performance audio to you at prices that make great sound affordable to anyone. X Reference is our "no holds barred line", and as a general rule, it will all also feature very high power amplifiers! (You can never have too much power) It is the designed to be the biggest and the baddest. We'll put XPR up against anything out there. There are no plans at present for an XPA-700, however we are working on an new XPA-7, as has been previously noted elsewhere. Hope this helps, Cheers, Dan " |
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Post by The Mad Norseman on Jun 12, 2012 17:59:40 GMT -5
A few random thoughts on the coming XPR series of amps... 1) Odd that an Emo moderator started this (now long!) thread, but I can't see where ANY moderator has participated since! Emotiva employees do not actively participate in the forums on a daily basis. So if you have a specific question you will need to call them. This forum is really for the members and we know as much as you do. Ha! - See? I complain a little and not one but TWO moderators show up! ;D I really appreciate the updates too. The first XPR coming out in a month or so? That's GREAT news! Really looking forward to seeing these XPRs and hearing the first feedback from this amp thirsty crowd (and I count myself among them!). I hope they've got adjustable gain for each channel and not just set at 29db, or 32db... I think the XPR line might be the one for me(?). Using class H technology like the Arcam upper end AVRs I hear too - interesting stuff to be sure! |
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Post by mmoist on Jun 12, 2012 18:09:20 GMT -5
I have a large great room 20' x 30' with a listening area of 20 x 20. The ceilings are 12' high. This room chews up power!
Here is what I have for existing equipment.
I have an Integra DHC 80.2 preamp
4 Godenear Triton two’s and their center channel.
I am looking for an amp.
I have been considering 2 XPA-2's for the 4 Triton two’s and an XPA-1 for the center (really do not see another choice for the center channel).
With this setup should I be waiting for the XPR series coming out this summer. Our is that going to be over the top. It would be nice to have a 5 channel amp instead of three separate amps. I do not know if that will be available in the XPR series or if the price will be out of the question.
There are those who believe the XPA-5 is adequate however with my room size and pension for big sound, I have serious doubts.
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Post by jamrock on Jun 12, 2012 18:27:32 GMT -5
Unless you are running full range on all your channels, any XPA amp would be more than an adequate power supply. And that would also be dependent on the size of your room. If you are using powered subs, any XPA amp would be more than adequate power for your needs for a similar room.
The XPR amps are not going to have a night & day difference in sound compared to the XPA line. Those who would consider buying an XPR amp are looking for something esoteric. Most likely bragging rights - Having the very best available. Do you really need a Corvette ZR1, Nissan GTR or Porsche 911 Turbo to drive to work. No! But style dictates that it is not just getting there. It is how you get there that matters ;D
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Post by Bonzo on Jun 13, 2012 10:02:23 GMT -5
Hey, wow, thanks everybody!  Got all my questions answered, and quickly at that. Awesome. THANKS. I feel better now. So I think I have my answer, which is to stick to the plan. Perfect. XPA-2 here I come. ;D Oh, and thanks to jamrock for summing it up best for me in particular. You said, "Do you really need a Corvette ZR1, Nissan GTR or Porsche 911 Turbo to drive to work?" And my own personal answer to that is, "can't afford it", so I'll buy the next best thing I really like; the best bang for the buck. Which is exactly what I finally did last year after years of wanting and waiting, I got myself a new 2012 Nissan 370Z Sport model. For the $34,500 I paid, it's the best bang for the buck 2 seat sports car around. There were others to choose from , but none matched looks, style, comfort and performance as well as the Z for me. I love it. Sounds like an Emotiva XPA-2 to me. Thanks again everyone!!!! Cheers --- Bonzo ;D |
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Got all my questions answered, and quickly at that. Awesome. THANKS. I feel better now. So I think I have my answer, which is to stick to the plan. Perfect. XPA-2 here I come. ;D