RMC-1

[Erwin.BE]

emotivalounge.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=ht&thread=10224&page=4#444235

Above is a report on the first meeting with the acoustician.

[cwt]

Sept 17, 2012 15:32:01 GMT -5 GreenKiwi said:

That's a really cool idea. You'd have to have a good "link" between them, so that inputs would only have to be plugged into one place, for instance, the "video" processor would have all the HDMI inputs and simply pass the currently selected inputs audio stream down to the audio processor. The audio processor might pass some OSD information back... you could then have them separately upgradable.

I wonder whether the thinking is that by the time you want to upgrade one part or the other, both parts would be out of date, so why have the added cost and complexity.

Its a great idea and what cary had in mind for a long time but was a dead end because cary changed hdmi versions midstream . The cinema 11 had a digilink input to accept lpcm from a video processor that had lossless decoders in it.

That idea went south when the hdmi1.3 11a was released. The 11v when it came out was redundant not being hdmi 1.4 even though the new cary 12 was and the 11a had an option

I run a duo with the 11a but it just isnt as flexible as having a matrix switcher thats built in to the one component. With hdmi versions changing all the time [ had to upgrade from hdmi 1.3 to 1.3a at one stage because 'a' was more stable ;nuff said] it complicates things

The hdmi version and the possibility of extra channel configurability and upgrades may throw it in the too hard basket ? If 4k gets legs I would be happy with a good CMS to keep it simple . Not that 4k interests me ; dont sit that close

[jerrin]

New things are afoot! Perhaps that 9.3 will be used sooner than we might think.... Maybe we do need that 11.3.


www.avsforum.com/t/1433599/first-blu-ray-disc-to-get-neo-x-optimized-soundtrack

[Vermont99]

Sent an e-mail to Emotive asking which would be better in 2 channel RMC-1 or XMC-1 or would you not be able to tell the difference. Most of my critical lessening is in 2 channel and I was not that concerned with 9.1 or 11.1 channel but I want to get this purchase correct, their reply was.

A reference series processor has been considered but nothing has been confirmed as of this point.

[jamrock]

The XMC-1 will have separate reference quality stereo XLR & RCA inputs. According to Emotiva, nothing is spared in the designing this input section. Even the most critical audiophile should find them exceptional!

[jerrin]

Oct 13, 2012 9:19:08 GMT -5 Vermont99 said:

Sent an e-mail to Emotive asking which would be better in 2 channel RMC-1 or XMC-1 or would you not be able to tell the difference. Most of my critical lessening is in 2 channel and I was not that concerned with 9.1 or 11.1 channel but I want to get this purchase correct, their reply was.

A reference series processor has been considered but nothing has been confirmed as of this point.

I agree with Jamrock that the XMC will likely sound great.

However, based on many conversations with the brass at Emo, I'm going to get a RMC.

If you already have a processor that does a good job, you could always get a XSP for your critical music listening. But, if you need a pre/pro and can only buy one, get the RMC.

[Vermont99]

From the e-mail it sounded like they are just thinking about a RMC and have not made the dissension to build it. I can wait for a while my UMC-1 works great but if it’s going to be a couple of years before its out I will get the XMC.

[jamrock]

I would think that Emotiva would have to wait until the XMC-1 is complete with TacT installed and operating as intended before giving serious consideration to the RMC-1. They will have to make sure that the RMC-1 is more than just an upgraded XMC-1. It just can't be an XMC-1 with 2 more surround channels. That won't fly for a speculated $1,000.00 more.

[jerrin]

I don't know exactly what was said by who in your email, but barring a disaster, I'm very sure the top-end processor is coming.

[Nemesis.ie]

Especially as mention was made of the XMC-1 boards having spaces left for additional components for extra channels and such.

[Vermont99]

I would like to wait for the RMC I'm not getting any younger and this very well be my last I really want to get this purchase correct. If Emo is going to come out with the RMC like to know some kind of time line but with Emo who knows.

Like I said if the XMC will sound as good as the RMC I will be happy with the XMC as I will not be using 9.1 or 11.1.

[muzicianx]

With all due respect, the XMC-1 is not out yet (and will only be complete sometime next spring), and the RMC-1 is vaporware at this point with nothing confirmed, so I'm not sure how you are going to make a 'correct' purchase if you feel like time is limited.

This industry is constantly evolving, and there's no way a purchase or decision today will make it in anyway future proof. The decision to be future proof is to live with what you have today, and enjoy listening as much as possible.

Sounds like to me you enjoy 2-channel the most, so an XSP-1 integrated with your UMC-1 (using HT bypass) would probably give you the best sound quality you are looking for if you want to stay with Emotiva, and don't really care much for additional surround sound.

My guess (since we're all speculating anyway) is that any type of reference processor is probably a couple years out, if not more.

[jerrin]

Oct 15, 2012 9:18:25 GMT -5 muzicianx said:

With all due respect, the XMC-1 is not out yet (and will only be complete sometime next spring), and the RMC-1 is vaporware at this point with nothing confirmed, so I'm not sure how you are going to make a 'correct' purchase if you feel like time is limited.

This industry is constantly evolving, and there's no way a purchase or decision today will make it in anyway future proof. The decision to be future proof is to live with what you have today, and enjoy listening as much as possible.

Sounds like to me you enjoy 2-channel the most, so an XSP-1 integrated with your UMC-1 (using HT bypass) would probably give you the best sound quality you are looking for if you want to stay with Emotiva, and don't really care much for additional surround sound.

My guess (since we're all speculating anyway) is that any type of reference processor is probably a couple years out, if not more.

I agree with your basic analysis regarding the XSP, but I have to differ on the vaporware and date estimate. The RMC is coming and the estimated release date is Summer of next year.

That said, I wouldn't bet that will be the ultimate date of release. That will likely be pushed back at least a bit.

[billmac]

Oct 15, 2012 9:18:25 GMT -5 muzicianx said:

With all due respect, the XMC-1 is not out yet (and will only be complete sometime next spring), and the RMC-1 is vaporware at this point with nothing confirmed, so I'm not sure how you are going to make a 'correct' purchase if you feel like time is limited.

I agree. The XMC-1 has not even been released yet and some are talking about a 2013 release of the RMC-1. I think the chances of the RMC-1 being released in 2013 are very slim. Emotiva has discussed other hi-end prepros in the past complete with mock up drawings. None of those have made it to production so I will wait to see actual RMC-1 units before I would consider it to be anything but vaporware.

Bill

[emovac]

Oct 15, 2012 12:27:57 GMT -5 billmac said:

Oct 15, 2012 9:18:25 GMT -5 muzicianx said:

With all due respect, the XMC-1 is not out yet (and will only be complete sometime next spring), and the RMC-1 is vaporware at this point with nothing confirmed, so I'm not sure how you are going to make a 'correct' purchase if you feel like time is limited.

I agree. The XMC-1 has not even been released yet and some are talking about a 2013 release of the RMC-1. I think the chances of the RMC-1 being released in 2013 are very slim. Emotiva has discussed other hi-end prepros in the past complete with mock up drawings. None of those have made it to production so I will wait to see actual RMC-1 units before I would consider it to be anything but vaporware.

Bill

You are both on target. The RMC-1 is a nice idea, but first things first.

[emovac]

Oct 15, 2012 11:39:46 GMT -5 jerrin said:

Oct 15, 2012 9:18:25 GMT -5 muzicianx said:

With all due respect, the XMC-1 is not out yet (and will only be complete sometime next spring), and the RMC-1 is vaporware at this point with nothing confirmed, so I'm not sure how you are going to make a 'correct' purchase if you feel like time is limited.

This industry is constantly evolving, and there's no way a purchase or decision today will make it in anyway future proof. The decision to be future proof is to live with what you have today, and enjoy listening as much as possible.

Sounds like to me you enjoy 2-channel the most, so an XSP-1 integrated with your UMC-1 (using HT bypass) would probably give you the best sound quality you are looking for if you want to stay with Emotiva, and don't really care much for additional surround sound.

My guess (since we're all speculating anyway) is that any type of reference processor is probably a couple years out, if not more.

I agree with your basic analysis regarding the XSP, but I have to differ on the vaporware and date estimate. The RMC is coming and the estimated release date is Summer of next year.

That said, I wouldn't bet that will be the ultimate date of release. That will likely be pushed back at least a bit.

Please define NEXT year? Once the XMC is out, Emo can switch gears to the RMC. Until then, the XMC should consume their production efforts.

[danr]

Do we have any idea how tall this RMC-1 may be?

[garbulky]

I don't expect an RMC-1 for a few years if it's going to be significantly different.

[danr]

I expect it to be a "supercharged" XMC-1 with the styling of the Reference Series. So, I think once they get the XMC-1 out, they'll quickly crank out the RMC-1. Do I think it will be Summer 2013? No, but maybe let 2013 or early 2014.

[jamrock]

I would not look for the RMC-1 until the XMC-1 is declared to be matured. Therefore, the less problems with the XMC-1, the earlier will be the RMC-1.