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Post by Poodleluvr on Dec 31, 2012 13:32:20 GMT -5
I've held off from purchasing an XPR during the holiday sale due to waiting to review the Audio Precision Spec Test Data on these amplifiers.-- I prefer to make an informed decision when purchasing audio equipment.
When will this precision test data be posted on the Emotiva website so I can make a decision toward this purchase, and hopefully do so before the holiday sale ends?
Thank you!
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Post by Porscheguy on Dec 31, 2012 14:22:01 GMT -5
Not to be a wise guy, but do you not take the specs on their webpage as true? Do you think Emotiva would build these amps that do poorly in testing? What is it that you would be looking for so I might know? I'm considering these amps as well..
BTW, What other manufacturer posts this Audio Precision Spec Test Data? Does this mean that you won't buy amps from any manufacturer that doesn't post this information?
SPECIFICATIONS
Topology: Fully discrete, dual differential inputs on each channel, with high current, short signal path Class A/B amplification, and Optimized Class-Hâ„¢ power supply topology.
Number of Channels: 2
Power Output
(rated power; THD < 0.1%):
600 watts / channel (x2); both channels driven; into 8 Ohms.
1,000 watts / channel (x2); both channels driven; into 4 Ohms.
Rated Power Bandwidth (at rated power; 8 Ohm load): 20 Hz to 20 kHz + /- 0.1 dB.
Minimum Recommended Load Impedance (each channel): 4 Ohms (which equals one 4 Ohm load or two paralleled 8 Ohm loads per channel).
Frequency Response: 5 Hz to 80 kHz (+ 0 / - 3 dB).
THD + noise: < 0.0025%
Signal to Noise Ratio (8 Ohm load):
> 116 dB at rated power (A-weighted).
> 91 dB at 1 watt (A-weighted).
Damping Factor (8 Ohm load): > 1,000
Speaker Output Connections:
Super heavy-duty custom Emotiva speaker binding posts - with clear acrylic insulators and heavy duty gold plated contacts; designed to accept heavy-gauge bare cables, lugs, or banana plugs.
Power Supply:
2.5 kVA toroidal power transformer.
240,000 uF low ESR capacitor bank.
Input sensitivity (for rated power; 8 Ohm load): 2.6 V
Gain: 29 dB
Input Connections:
(2) RCA; unbalanced (audiophile quality, solid brass, machined, gold plated); one per channel.
(2) XLR; balanced; one per channel.
Input Impedance:
100k Ohms (unbalanced).
51k Ohms (balanced).
Trigger:
Trigger Input: 5 - 20 V (AC or DC); <10 mA input current required.
Trigger Output: 12 VDC; can drive any load up to 50 mA.
Power Requirements: 115 VAC or 230 VAC +/- 10% @ 50 / 60 Hz (user selectable).
The XPR-2 requires a 20 Amp circuit and standard IEC 20 Amp outlet (which is different than a 15 Amp outlet).If you don’t have a proper circuit and outlet, we recommend you have one installed by a qualified electrician. We recommend that the XPR-2 be plugged into its own dedicated 20 Amp circuit.
Protection: The XPR-2 is protected against excessive operating temperature, shorted speaker connections, ground faults, and other common fault conditions. If a fault occurs on one or more channels of the XPR-2, the LED above the Standby button, and the Channel Status LEDs and the LED Bargraph Meter LEDs associated with the channel that is reporting the fault will flash red. Returning the XPR-2 to Standby or switching off the AC Power will reset the protection circuitry.
Dimensions:
unboxed: 17" wide x 9.5" high x 19.5" deep (includes feet and binding posts; requires additional 3-4" of depth clearance to accomodate the power cord).
(double) boxed: 27" length x 25" width x 16" height
Weight: 100 lbs (net); 114 lbs (boxed
SPECIFICATIONS
Topology: Fully discrete, quad differential, fully balanced, high current, short signal path Class A/B Differential Reference power amplifier with Optimized Class-Hâ„¢ power supply topology.
Number of Channels: 1
Power Output
(rated power; THD < 0.1%):
1000 watts; into 8 Ohms.
1,750 watts into 4 Ohms.
Rated Power Bandwidth (at rated power; 8 Ohm load): 20 Hz to 20 kHz + /- 0.1 dB.
Minimum Recommended Load Impedance: 4 Ohms.
Frequency Response: 5 Hz to 80 kHz (+ 0 / - 3 dB).
THD + noise: < 0.0025%
Signal to Noise Ratio (8 Ohm load):
> 118 dB at rated power (A-weighted).
> 93 dB at 1 watt (A-weighted).
Damping Factor (8 Ohm load): > 1,000
Speaker Output Connections:
Super heavy-duty custom Emotiva speaker binding posts - with clear acrylic insulators and heavy duty gold plated contacts; designed to accept heavy-gauge bare cables, lugs, or banana plugs.
Power Supply:
2.5 kVA toroidal power transformer.
240,000 uF low ESR capacitor bank.
Input sensitivity (for rated power; 8 Ohm load): 3.5 V
Gain: 29 dB
Input Connections:
(1) RCA; unbalanced (audiophile quality, solid brass, machined, gold plated)
Balanced (XLR); one per channel.
(1) XLR; balanced
Input Impedance:
100k Ohms (unbalanced).
51k Ohms (balanced).
Trigger:
Trigger Input: 5 - 20 V (AC or DC); <10 mA input current required.
Trigger Output: 12 VDC; can drive any load up to 50 mA.
Power Requirements: 115 VAC or 230 VAC +/- 10% @ 50 / 60 Hz (user selectable).
The XPR-1 requires a 20 Amp circuit and standard IEC 20 Amp outlet (which is different than a 15 Amp outlet). If you don’t have a proper circuit and outlet. We recommend you have one installed by a qualified electrician. We recommend that the XPR-1 be plugged into its own dedicated 20 Amp circuit.
Protection: The XPR-1 is protected against excessive operating temperature, shorted speaker connections, ground faults, and other common fault conditions. If a fault occurs the LED above the Standby button, and the Channel Status LED and the LED Bargraph Meter LEDs will flash red. Returning the XPR-1 to Standby or switching off the AC Power will reset the protection circuitry.
Dimensions:
unboxed: 17" wide x 9.5" high x 19.5" deep (includes feet and binding posts; requires additional 3-4" of depth clearance to accomodate the power cord).
(double) boxed: 27" length x 25" width x 16" height
Weight: 99 lbs (net); 113 lbs (boxed)
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Post by Poodleluvr on Dec 31, 2012 14:41:32 GMT -5
Well, first, you may not cIaim to be a "wise guy" but I'm not blind and I find your posting action as otherwise.
Second, I'm an Emotiva customer and I'm contemplating on spending my money, not yours.
Third, I prefer to make informed decisions as best possible.
Fourth, in the past, Emotiva normally has the test data posted within a few days of offering a new product for sale on their website i.e., XPR-5 & XSP-1.
Fifth, there has been "talk " about the XPR-1 delivering 2k or more ohms into a 4 ohm load. I'd like to see it.
Sixth, as you, I own XPA-1s.-- I would like to compare the new XPR-1 test data to the former XPA-1 test data. Once again, it's my money, I'm the customer, and I would appreciate the opportunity to compare the test data.
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Post by Porscheguy on Dec 31, 2012 15:02:14 GMT -5
Wow, having a bad day? All I asked is what you would be looking for? It seems that they have supplied all the pertinent specs and certainly more than most other manufacturer's.
So, you do not believe the published data on the website? Do you expect the test data to show otherwise? I'm just asking thats all. :-)
I'm not trying to pick a fight, I'm just curious..... If it is posted, what should I look for?
Thanks!
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Post by Poodleluvr on Dec 31, 2012 15:19:36 GMT -5
Nope, sorry, I'm actually having a good day, thank you!
I just don't put up with BS, and this sort of BS from you.
Seventh, I have a degree in electronics and why I personally desire to review the data is none of your business. Once again, I've requested this info (twice today), I'm the customer, and it's my money, and my choice to make the best informed decision as possible.
I owe you no other explanation.
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Post by Porscheguy on Dec 31, 2012 15:28:29 GMT -5
Well, what was the point of even posting this here? The forum members have no control over what Emotiva posts on their website. You should be asking them for this information, not end users...
And to be honest, the tenor of your question was taken (at least by me) that you don't believe the data on their their website, and you want the "real facts" to back it up.
Geez Louise..... I gotta get me a new hobby :-)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2012 15:45:54 GMT -5
Happy new year  I'm sure an email to lonnie@emotiva.com would help you out. Good luck friend! |
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Post by Porscheguy on Dec 31, 2012 15:50:05 GMT -5
Happy new year I'm sure an email to lonnie@emotiva.com would help you out. Good luck friend! +1 Matt |
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Post by Jessica on Dec 31, 2012 16:09:19 GMT -5
I've held off from purchasing an XPR during the holiday sale due to waiting to review the Audio Precision Spec Test Data on these amplifiers.-- I prefer to make an informed decision when purchasing audio equipment. When will this precision test data be posted on the Emotiva website so I can make a decision toward this purchase, and hopefully do so before the holiday sale ends? Thank you! The tests will be posted in the new year. The team is busy working on getting the tests up on the site, but there are a few other projects in the pipeline that have us occupied at the moment.Thank you for your patience. |
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Post by garbulky on Dec 31, 2012 16:18:34 GMT -5
Poodlluvr. You asked a polite simple question. Not sure what the issue is. Anyway, sometimes, emotiva takes their time posting the AP spec data. I remember it happened with their recent releases. Most likely they've got caught up in the holiday rush but I assume it will be up within the next two weeks. I too agree about the AP test data. I remember when it came out I saw that the SNR for one of the baby XPA's was hitting in the 50's for 4 ohms.  Yikes! Luckily they said there was some error with the testing which caused bad SNR's. However, how they fixed it was errr....to remove the SNR figure and they didn't post a re-test  So yes, I would like to see those data if I was making a purchase. Every once in a while I also see that the specs don't quite match up with the AP data and it's helpful to see it from a generated test report. But they almost always post it so it shouldn't be too long. |
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Post by Porscheguy on Dec 31, 2012 16:52:02 GMT -5
I'll apologize if I came off as a wise ass. I guess I'm very defensive about Emo stuff and I just couldn't imagine them not being what they are portrayed to be. Especially after talking to 3-4 guys who have them...
Happy New Year..!
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Post by Lonnie on Dec 31, 2012 17:01:23 GMT -5
I've held off from purchasing an XPR during the holiday sale due to waiting to review the Audio Precision Spec Test Data on these amplifiers.-- I prefer to make an informed decision when purchasing audio equipment. When will this precision test data be posted on the Emotiva website so I can make a decision toward this purchase, and hopefully do so before the holiday sale ends? Thank you! Hello and welcome, To be honest the reason we haven't posted the AP test data is because the XPR-1 and XPR-2 blew up several of our load banks. We have small signal data, but the full signal test I can't run right now and give you accurate data. I have ordered 100) 1000W 8 ohm non-inductive load banks and we are just waiting for them to arrive. Once here, it will take a couple of days to rebuild the test system and get the AP connected to it, but then we will be able to run the full set of test even at full power. I hope to have them very soon and we will get the data up as quickly as possible. Lonnie |
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Post by bulldozer on Dec 31, 2012 17:40:01 GMT -5
I've held off from purchasing an XPR during the holiday sale due to waiting to review the Audio Precision Spec Test Data on these amplifiers.-- I prefer to make an informed decision when purchasing audio equipment. When will this precision test data be posted on the Emotiva website so I can make a decision toward this purchase, and hopefully do so before the holiday sale ends? Thank you! Hello and welcome, To be honest the reason we haven't posted the AP test data is because the XPR-1 and XPR-2 blew up several of our load banks. We have small signal data, but the full signal test I can't run right now and give you accurate data. I have ordered 100) 1000W 8 ohm non-inductive load banks and we are just waiting for them to arrive. Once here, it will take a couple of days to rebuild the test system and get the AP connected to it, but then we will be able to run the full set of test even at full power. I hope to have them very soon and we will get the data up as quickly as possible. Lonnie Wow! blew up your load banks!Now i've got to have them! |
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Post by Poodleluvr on Dec 31, 2012 18:41:02 GMT -5
I've held off from purchasing an XPR during the holiday sale due to waiting to review the Audio Precision Spec Test Data on these amplifiers.-- I prefer to make an informed decision when purchasing audio equipment. When will this precision test data be posted on the Emotiva website so I can make a decision toward this purchase, and hopefully do so before the holiday sale ends? Thank you! Hello and welcome, To be honest the reason we haven't posted the AP test data is because the XPR-1 and XPR-2 blew up several of our load banks. We have small signal data, but the full signal test I can't run right now and give you accurate data. I have ordered 100) 1000W 8 ohm non-inductive load banks and we are just waiting for them to arrive. Once here, it will take a couple of days to rebuild the test system and get the AP connected to it, but then we will be able to run the full set of test even at full power. I hope to have them very soon and we will get the data up as quickly as possible. Lonnie Thanks Mr. Lonnie for your explanation on behalf of Emotiva Audio Corp. Please note that I made a phone call inquiring about this information prior to my posting, left my phone number, but was not called back. Well, my wife just placed my order for a pair of XPR-1s, totaling $2558.00 using her Paypal account.-- We wanted to take advantage of the Paypal "Bill Me Later" program since it appears that this offer ends today 12/31/2012. In addition, yesterday, I placed an order for a CMX-2 on my CC of which I received shipment notification. Thank you. As you are aware, the XPR-1s are currently out-of-stock; therefore, backordered with a tentative shipment date of 01/10/2013. In closing, I would still like to review the AP test data as soon as possible. Thank you for your personal attention to this matter. Poodleluvr |
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Post by danr on Dec 31, 2012 19:35:29 GMT -5
Not sure what you expect Lonnie to "personally do" other than run the tests and have Jessica post them. They've both already posted here as to the status.
Congrats on the XPR-1 purchase. Let us know your thoughts on how they stack up against your XPA-1s.
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Post by Dan Laufman on Dec 31, 2012 21:25:18 GMT -5
OK gentlemen... enough picking on each other. Let's not let the Lounge turn into a mean spirited extension of the rest of the world. Everyone has their reasons for wanting advice, and it doesn't have to make sense to someone else. We do publish extensive written specifications, but you all have become used to AP data, which interestingly enough is NOT supplied by makers of much more expensive equipment... hmmmm. We'll have it up soon, but Lonnie is not kidding; we blew up several expensive load banks trying to get them to last long enough for full power AP testing! Like I said before, we'll go head to head with anyone out here. We've got nothing to hide. Happy New Year! Big Dan |
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Post by tchaik on Dec 31, 2012 23:32:45 GMT -5
blowing up the test equipment by the amps being tested is priceless. if that isn't enough power i don't know what is. thank you dan and lonnie for making the best kick-ass amps on the market. the xpr's will be the amps by which all others will be judged. is it even possible without building your own power plant to run 7 mono blocks with more power than the xpr-1? imagine trying to power those in a 7-channel surround system. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by traider79 on Jan 1, 2013 0:31:16 GMT -5
Man I wish I could have a pair of these in my rack. Couple more months of saving up
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Post by KeithL on Jan 1, 2013 1:36:09 GMT -5
And, if everybody plays nice, maybe we'll post some pictures of the new load resistors when they come in.  OK gentlemen... enough picking on each other. Let's not let the Lounge turn into a mean spirited extension of the rest of the world. Everyone has their reasons for wanting advice, and it doesn't have to make sense to someone else. We do publish extensive written specifications, but you all have become used to AP data, which interestingly enough is NOT supplied by makers of much more expensive equipment... hmmmm. We'll have it up soon, but Lonnie is not kidding; we blew up several expensive load banks trying to get them to last long enough for full power AP testing! Like I said before, we'll go head to head with anyone out here. We've got nothing to hide. Happy New Year! Big Dan |
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Post by Dark Ranger on Jan 1, 2013 1:46:02 GMT -5
And, if everybody plays nice, maybe we'll post some pictures of the new load resistors when they come in. I'd like to see those! Actually, I'd love to see the blown up load banks! This is what real power looks like, gentlemen.  |
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Yikes! Luckily they said there was some error with the testing which caused bad SNR's. However, how they fixed it was errr....to remove the SNR figure and they didn't post a re-test 
