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Post by wizardofoz on Feb 8, 2013 7:12:29 GMT -5
I think i see the problem...the white ribbon cable at the top right is not slotted in...or is this an old image?
This is the dc supply boards. The cables with the orange yellow blue black are probably from the toroidal transformer. It is not the power standby board that was in the xpa200 thread above
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Post by wizardofoz on Feb 8, 2013 7:15:00 GMT -5
I do have an xsp-1 too btw
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Post by richardrc on Feb 8, 2013 7:34:26 GMT -5
I think i see the problem...the white ribbon cable at the top right is not slotted in...or is this an old image? This is the dc supply boards. The cables with the orange yellow blue black are probably from the toroidal transformer. It is not the power standby board that was in the xpa200 thread above Beat me to it. Check your interconnects and reseat them if you know how. I just received a replacement part (not yet installed) with a loose IDC ribbon cable. Since it goes in a sub they should have been of the locking variety or glued(cheaper) .
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Post by spurious on Feb 8, 2013 8:38:03 GMT -5
Well spotted but this is the photo when I pulled it apart to check whether the same (or other) capacitor had a bulge in the top .
Unfortunately not.
Had to disconnect multiple cables to remove the internal cover.
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Post by spurious on Feb 8, 2013 9:41:44 GMT -5
I do have an xsp-1 too btw Had issues?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2013 9:46:48 GMT -5
If my XSP-1 kicks off from static one more time, it's gone for good.
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Post by creimes on Feb 8, 2013 9:59:58 GMT -5
Kicks off from static...?, is it shutting down
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2013 10:38:01 GMT -5
Kicks off from static...?, is it shutting down I was plugging in my usb cable on my ps3 to charge the controller and the sound cut out. Powered the XSP-1 off and it came back. I've even tried to repeat the sound cut out. Yup works every time. My rug is very shaggy and just moving around the floor makes a lot of static. Touch the chassis and bam! It doesn't do this on other Emo things i own. Tried it on my XDA-, XPA-1's and Mini X. Only works on the XSP-1. Kind of dumb
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Post by jmasterj on Feb 8, 2013 11:23:49 GMT -5
Hi guys,
So sorry to hear about the problems you're having with the XSP-1. I've been trying to decide if I wanted to purchase the USP-1 or spend twice as much to get the XSP-1. Really wondering is it twice as good for twice the price ? Well I think your misfortune has helped me to make up my mind. It's gonna be the USP-1 for me. I'm gonna keep it simple.
Please keep us informed. I am very interested in the outcome. If you'll ever get the units to operate properly. Or if you give up and decide to go in a different direction.
Good Luck J
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Post by creimes on Feb 8, 2013 11:27:35 GMT -5
Kicks off from static...?, is it shutting down I was plugging in my usb cable on my ps3 to charge the controller and the sound cut out. Powered the XSP-1 off and it came back. I've even tried to repeat the sound cut out. Yup works every time. My rug is very shaggy and just moving around the floor makes a lot of static. Touch the chassis and bam! It doesn't do this on other Emo things i own. Tried it on my XDA-, XPA-1's and Mini X. Only works on the XSP-1. Kind of dumb That is strange, I know my Yamaha receiver was bad for that as in if I had static charge on me I would always get a shock when touching the unit, is the XSP-1 grounded....? maybe you need an anti static mat and wristband haha.
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Post by creimes on Feb 8, 2013 11:32:10 GMT -5
Hi guys, So sorry to hear about the problems you're having with the XSP-1. I've been trying to decide if I wanted to purchase the USP-1 or spend twice as much to get the XSP-1. Really wondering is it twice as good for twice the price ? Well I think your misfortune has helped me to make up my mind. It's gonna be the USP-1 for me. I'm gonna keep it simple. Please keep us informed. I am very interested in the outcome. If you'll ever get the units to operate properly. Or if you give up and decide to go in a different direction. Good Luck J I wouldn't think that everyone is having issues with the XSP-1 so don't count it out just yet as from all the reviews is does outperform the USP-1, especially the Phono stage. I guess it depends mostly on your budget as well, I had the USP-1 and it is a great unit but most people here that had the USP-1 say the XSP-1 is a nice upgrade.
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Post by spurious on Feb 8, 2013 12:12:26 GMT -5
Hi guys, I've been trying to decide if I wanted to purchase the USP-1 or spend twice as much to get the XSP-1. Really wondering is it twice as good for twice the price ? Good Luck J I had a USP-1 and I think the XSP-1 is more than twice as good with well recorded vinyl (with CD I'm not too sure, I think no better no worse) and I'm missing it right now. The volume control is much better on the XSP-1 (that's an understatement) Mine has broken down twice since I bought it in November, my USP-1 had no problems for the almost 3 years I owned it (sold it for like $200 ). Maybe I bought the XSP too soon and now the bugs have been ironed out? Perhaps if you're in America you'll have no problems (or at least they'll be easier to solve)
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Post by franklavallee65 on Feb 8, 2013 12:14:26 GMT -5
Kicks off from static...?, is it shutting down I was plugging in my usb cable on my ps3 to charge the controller and the sound cut out. Powered the XSP-1 off and it came back. I've even tried to repeat the sound cut out. Yup works every time. My rug is very shaggy and just moving around the floor makes a lot of static. Touch the chassis and bam! It doesn't do this on other Emo things i own. Tried it on my XDA-, XPA-1's and Mini X. Only works on the XSP-1. Kind of dumb
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Post by franklavallee65 on Feb 8, 2013 12:21:19 GMT -5
Oops sorry about that post above. I just wanted to share I've had the same experience as Kraemer with the static issue. In my case I was taking a width measurement of another component in the chain and the xsp 1 went into some sort of protection mode. which by powering down and up restored operation. I was able to reproduce this again and then decided better leave well enough alone.
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Post by jmasterj on Feb 8, 2013 13:23:44 GMT -5
There seems to be a few bugs yet to be worked out with the XSP-1. That is understanable with a new unit. However, I don't use vinyl any more. Even if I did at some point decide to go back to it that would be on a very limited bases. With only an entry level turn table like the Pro-Ject Debut Carbon for $399.00 . I love the way my ERC-1 playes CD's. I believe I'd be content with the USP-1.
Yes I am in America, so chances are pretty good that I would not experience some of the problems you guys are having. If I did it would be easy for me to return it for service. Which I did have to do for my ERC-1 it's been 15 months since I had it serviced. The loader went bad. I've had no more problems with it.
It would be a strech for my budget to spend $899.00 on a preamp. I plan to mate it with the XPA-2. So I think for cheaper, and simpler is better.
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Post by KeithL on Feb 8, 2013 15:35:27 GMT -5
I just wanted to clear the air a bit here...
Overall, the XSP-1 is a very reliable product; in fact, we've had very FEW problems with them.
Yes, there were a very few XSP-1's with bad capacitors (it was one part).... it was only a few units and we've taken care of it.
Now, as for static.....
Virtually ALL modern electronic equipment is affected by static to some degree. When you walk across a rug and get that big SNAP! when you touch something grounded, you're actually hearing a discharge that can run to well over 10,000 volts. Poorly made equipment can actually be destroyed by a static discharge; well made equipment, like the XSP-1, is protected against such damage.
Even with that protection, however, it's possible that the XSP-1 may occasionally be slightly affected by an especially heavy duty zap. Rest assured that it won't cause any harm; at most, you may have to switch the XSP-1 off and on again to return things to normal. If you happen to have an environment that is very prone to static (maybe you have nylon couches with wool slip covers) and it really bugs you, you could try an anti-static carpet cleaner, or some of that anti-static laundry spray, or even anti-static rubber mats underneath your equipment.... but there's really no need to bother - or to worry about it - on our part.
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Post by KeithL on Feb 8, 2013 15:41:59 GMT -5
Just to set the record straight here..... When you get a static shock, it happens because YOU have acquired a static charge (usually because of an interaction between your shoes and the carpet, or your body and a chair). The "shock" is actually the charge in your body going TO ground. So there's no way that grounding the equipment or anything else will stop it. To prevent it, you need to have a conductive path to bleed the charge off of YOU gradually; this is what wrist straps and static spray do - they provide a high-resistance path to ground to bleed off the charge. ALL equipment is grounded as far as this sort of voltage is concerned - even equipment that is "floating" at normal voltages. For it not to be would be hazardous. (The black color in your car tires is carbon, put there so the tires conduct very slightly to ground, to avoid allowing a lethal charge to build up on the car chassis.) I was plugging in my usb cable on my ps3 to charge the controller and the sound cut out. Powered the XSP-1 off and it came back. I've even tried to repeat the sound cut out. Yup works every time. My rug is very shaggy and just moving around the floor makes a lot of static. Touch the chassis and bam! It doesn't do this on other Emo things i own. Tried it on my XDA-, XPA-1's and Mini X. Only works on the XSP-1. Kind of dumb That is strange, I know my Yamaha receiver was bad for that as in if I had static charge on me I would always get a shock when touching the unit, is the XSP-1 grounded....? maybe you need an anti static mat and wristband haha.
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Post by creimes on Feb 8, 2013 15:56:57 GMT -5
Oh yeah I understand, I'm just always nervous when physically touching my gear but I have never had any issues other then when I had my Yamaha Receiver...even then in the same environment I noticed static discharge on it but not on my other equipment. We have anti static mats and wristbands in our Central Offices where all our telecommunication equipment is.
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Post by roadrunner on Feb 8, 2013 18:22:32 GMT -5
Just running a humidifier in your listening room could eliminate the static problem. The home heating system, forced air heat, dries the air and makes you more susceptible, especially with plush carpeting.
I used to have some computer customers with severe static problems locking up their PCs and sometimes losing data. Putting in a little portable humidifier was often the option they chose to prevent further static problems. I offered to provide several different options and most of my customers selected either the humidifier or anti-static mats. The humidifiers also made the room feel more comfortable.
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Post by wizardofoz on Feb 8, 2013 21:23:35 GMT -5
My xsp is from the first shipment. But i got it from someone else basically new in the box as he changed to other gear in the wait for it. Havent had any issues with mu xsp, but the xpa-1's I am pairing it with are giving me some grief now...more testing required, but one of them is getting rather a lot warmer on one side and shutting down or going full red leds with amber power.
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