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Post by Gary Cook on Jan 10, 2014 1:17:12 GMT -5
Led Zeppelin Sydney Showground 27th February 1972, I can't even remember where I was standing, it's all blur of music and bodies.
Cheers
Gary
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2014 6:19:33 GMT -5
Yep been a fan since well da 70's. Here hit this Puff Puff cough cough.  |
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Post by Bonzo on Jan 10, 2014 9:29:22 GMT -5
Shoot I hope it's good, of all my favourite 60/70's bands the Zep stuff that I have and have heard is the worst quality. Pink Floyd, Deep Purple, Moody Blues, Cat Stevens, Jethro Tull, Chicago, Black Sabbath, Eagles, Blood Sweat and Tears, Santana, Creedence (John Fogarty) etc all have pretty good to great quality releases, many on SACD. In comparison the Zep stuff is just not good enough and as my equipment gets better they just sound worse. , and you an me both. You nailed it. I always find it amusing when people on Zep forums start talking about sound quality when it comes to Zep releases, and then proceed to act like you can judge audiophile quality on those recordings. Now Zep definitely has a sound, and for us Zep fans that sound is awesome. But, it's certainly not audiophile grade sound quality. My system has done exactly the same as yours. So now Zep actually sounds better on my boom box than it does on my stereo.  Many audiophile Zep fan has been sitting around waiting for these releases on pins and needles. Will they finally sound awesome, or will they follow the modern path of compression and loudness and ruin it? Will they leave the mixes alone or will they change levels of certain things to make them more or less prominent? Everyone is a bit nervous about it. Only time will tell. Either way I'm sure opinions will vary widely. The one thing I might say is that for Zep, a super clear concise sound might be a bit like a double edged sword. Part of the sound is like a fog, and I believe that's the way Jimmy intended it to be. If you take that layer of haze away, things might be as you expect, and that "sound" that made it so great might be disappointing. I sincerely hope not. I do know for sure that a few of the tracks have been changed slightly, in that they've added back the original unfiltered beginning or ending. A few of the tracks already released for iTunes a while back show this to be true. And then there's the additional unreleased material, so that could be worth it alone. Fingers crossed here..... Cheers --- Bonzo  |
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Post by Bonzo on Jan 10, 2014 9:37:15 GMT -5
Love the videos guys. Thank for the posts!
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Post by Bonzo on Jan 10, 2014 9:54:21 GMT -5
On a side note, Robert Plant has officially announced a European Tour for the summer, as well as one of his new albums finally coming out. I have it on good authority that he actually has 2 albums worth of material "in the can", but for some reason hasn't put either of them out. One was more with the Band Of Joy guys, and one was more with the SSS guys. I assume the one being released is the later since it appears that's who he is still touring with this summer. Looking forward to it either way. www.uncut.co.uk/robert-plant-announces-first-live-dates-for-2014-news |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2014 4:24:21 GMT -5
Bonzo - check this out. Slinnnnky!
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Post by Bonzo on Jan 13, 2014 9:38:30 GMT -5
Bonzo - check this out. Slinnnnky! Yes, I love this. I actually have this on DVD. It was broadcast on CMT. I saw them in concert in Louisville at the Palace Theater. Very cool place. It's Allison's favorite venue. Our show was supposed to be the opening show of the tour, but it sold out so fast that they put up another for the night before. I have to say I felt a bit pissed at the time. I'd never been to an opening show, so I was juiced. When places add shows, they should always do it for a night after the original date, not before. Anyway, the song of the night, no doubt, was Down To The River To Pray. Just amazing. louisvillepalace.com/photos-videos# |
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Post by badsarge on Jan 13, 2014 11:14:26 GMT -5
Saw that Jimmy Page turned 70 on 9January14. Utterly amazing to see him still kicking butt all these years!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2014 4:15:13 GMT -5
Saw that Jimmy Page turned 70 on 9January14. Utterly amazing to see him still kicking butt all these years! Yea - but the nurse has to hold his leg as he does it...  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2014 5:52:21 GMT -5
Yes, I love this. I actually have this on DVD. It was broadcast on CMT. What's CMT ? - also, what is the actual name of the concert - I'd like to get the DVD, thanks! |
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Post by bluemeanies on Jan 14, 2014 7:29:32 GMT -5
Chuck I am with you to be a teenager in the 60's was the best. 64-68 awesome time in music.
Yes I am a Zeppelin Fan. Have ninety percent of their music. So baby "squeeze my lemon". Haha.
A little something some people might not know.
On the Led Zeppelin's album cover,
The Who's Keith Moon and John Entwistle were discussing the idea of forming a group, Moon joked, "It would probably go over like a lead balloon", and Entwistle allegedly replied, "...a lead zeppelin!"
Perhaps the best blues, heavy metal band
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Post by indyscammer on Jan 14, 2014 8:21:11 GMT -5
Yes, I love this. I actually have this on DVD. It was broadcast on CMT. What's CMT ? - also, what is the actual name of the concert - I'd like to get the DVD, thanks! CMT = Country Music Television. The episode is from their Crossroads series which pairs a "Rock" star with a "Country" star for a performance where they perform songs from both artists. I watch that a lot as there are some really good pairings. They also stretch the definitions of "Rock" sometimes (Jimmy Buffet appeared with Zac Brown as the "rock" guy in one episode). |
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Post by Bonzo on Jan 14, 2014 9:34:23 GMT -5
What's CMT ? - also, what is the actual name of the concert - I'd like to get the DVD, thanks! CMT = Country Music Television. The episode is from their Crossroads series which pairs a "Rock" star with a "Country" star for a performance where they perform songs from both artists. I watch that a lot as there are some really good pairings. They also stretch the definitions of "Rock" sometimes (Jimmy Buffet appeared with Zac Brown as the "rock" guy in one episode). Thank you for answering this. You are 100% correct. My DVD is "home burnt" from the HD broadcast, not an official release. |
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Post by novisnick on Jan 22, 2014 21:46:03 GMT -5
Quick Zep question,
I'm wondering about the quality of the Mothership box set?
Is it worth the price,,,,$60.00,,,,,, of admition? I grew up with Zep and have plenty of LPs, well listened to, is the refresh of this set worth it?
I've heard that the re asters are not up to par at all. I don't want to waste my money if the quality just isn't there.
Thanks in advance.
Nick
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Post by Darksky on Jan 22, 2014 23:31:56 GMT -5
Great question Nick.
I Am curious about the same type of thing. I know. That the majority of the Zep recordings are pretty rough. Which of them, including the new remasters are the cleanest, best collection. Isn't there something new coming down the pipe as well?
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Post by Bonzo on Jan 23, 2014 9:32:43 GMT -5
The main 2 groups of people who should buy Mothership are casual fans who have no Led Zeppelin in their collection (to get sort of a greatest hits), and collectors who need everything just because (that's me).
Mothership was basically made to answer the calling from the industry for Zep to have iTunes 128 mp3 friendly tracks available. To do this levels were boosted and compression added, which, means loudness. No one I know of "in the know" considers it the best. Song wise, Mothership is almost an exact rehashing of previous 2 CD sets, the early 90's era "Remasters" (released in different countries under different guises around the same time as the 4 CD Boxed set) and the 2000 era "Early and Later Years" CD's.
You might note that this thread was basically started to discuss the upcoming re-releases. Yes, upcoming. Jimmy Page has yet again gone through everything, and supposedly used modern mastering equipment and techniques to come up with what he is basically saying is the creme de la creme of Zep releases, the piece de resistance. These releases will also contain extra bonus material, to include alternate takes and perhaps even a few unheard gems. It's all speculation until we see it. Per Jimmy's website on New Years, the first batch will include the first 3 albums. What we don't know is if they will be available separately, or if it's a Boxed Set containing all 3, or both. They will be available in 2014.
There is great trepidation for these upcoming releases. The recent release of Celebration Day brings that fear to the forefront, because the sound mix on those releases ranges from okay to down right crappy. And of course everyone thinks they want audiophile recordings of Led Zeppelin. But many are also worried that these new releases may ruin what the Led Zep sound was all about. Either too clear, remixed, too loud, edited etc. I happen to think that the clouded foggy roughness is part of the Zep sound, and to remove that veil will change things for the worse. But I am remaining positive until I hear it. I sincerely hope it's awesome, but we'll see. I'll be buying it all regardless.
I've said this many times before and I'll say it again; it always cracks me up when audiophile people start discussing the sound of Zep. What I can say with 100% certainty, in my opinion of course, is that Led Zep is not audiophile perfection anything. There is nothing perfect to it. But you see, that's part of what makes it what it is. It's where the genuine honesty lives. Dave Lewis' fanzine sums the Zep sound up best for me with the name "Tight But Loose."
As for which releases to buy now, that depends on who you ask. Do you want a greatest hits, just the best albums, or do you want all of it?
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Post by drtrey3 on Jan 23, 2014 10:06:26 GMT -5
Hey Bonzo, were the same masters used for the vinyl Mothership? My vinyl version of Since I Been Loving You is better than my British vinyl, so I am surprised and confused (it is a little too early in the morning for dazed) to read about the set being done for iTunes!
Trey
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Post by chaosrv on Jan 23, 2014 11:08:03 GMT -5
There is great trepidation for these upcoming releases. The recent release of Celebration Day brings that fear to the forefront, because the sound mix on those releases ranges from okay to down right crappy. And of course everyone thinks they want audiophile recordings of Led Zeppelin. But many are also worried that these new releases may ruin what the Led Zep sound was all about. Either too clear, remixed, too loud, edited etc. I happen to think that the clouded foggy roughness is part of the Zep sound, and to remove that veil will change things for the worse. But I am remaining positive until I hear it. I sincerely hope it's awesome, but we'll see. I'll be buying it all regardless. I've said this many times before and I'll say it again; it always cracks me up when audiophile people start discussing the sound of Zep. What I can say with 100% certainty, in my opinion of course, is that Led Zep is not audiophile perfection anything. There is nothing perfect to it. But you see, that's part of what makes it what it is. It's where the genuine honesty lives. Dave Lewis' fanzine sums the Zep sound up best for me with the name "Tight But Loose." Led Zep is one of my all time favorites and I have to agree with your comments about "audiophile" Zep music. That would be akin to an audiophile version of anything by The Sex Pistols or The Ramones. By cleaning this up you are going to lose half of what makes their sound theirs. |
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Post by Bonzo on Jan 23, 2014 13:42:01 GMT -5
Hey Bonzo, were the same masters used for the vinyl Mothership? My vinyl version of Since I Been Loving You is better than my British vinyl, so I am surprised and confused (it is a little too early in the morning for dazed) to read about the set being done for iTunes! Trey Well I own both but you know, come to think of it, I don't know. I've never cracked open my vinyl. I know a guy who will know so let me get back with you. |
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Post by Bonzo on Jan 23, 2014 13:55:32 GMT -5
That would be akin to an audiophile version of anything by The Sex Pistols or The Ramones. By cleaning this up you are going to lose half of what makes their sound theirs. Good way to put it. Exactly what I'm hoping doesn't happen. I wouldn't mind a little of the old tape hiss going away, but I'm not keen on the rest. A year or 2 ago one of the craziest bootlegs of all time came out. It's a 4 CD set that contains the original track masters for 4 songs from Zep II. It just really shows how truly rough the original recordings are. It answered a lot of reasons of how why things sounded weird etc. Like how some sounds bleed through, and the cross talk between channels. It's there because it's clearly in the individual takes. |
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