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Post by guzz46 on Aug 11, 2014 5:40:05 GMT -5
I have noticed that the Bongo prices have just had a massive price increase. Freight for an XPA-5 to down under will cost 360AUD. I checked the price a few months ago and it was 100AUD cheaper. Certainly takes the shine off your new purchase especially when you add local taxes. I think EMO will have to revisit their new shipper. EMO will have to realise that most, if not all, international clients will sacrifice shipping priority for price. Freight for the UPA-700 is 258AUD ($240US). XPA-5 delivery = $A360............hell, I'm sure mine was under $A200 back in FedEx days. Freight at close to 50% of the cost of the item is a big turn off. I might have to start arranging my own! Cheers Gary The cost of shipping 2 XPA-1's to NZ was $462 US dollars back in September 2011, now it's $576 US dollars.
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Post by jutta on Aug 11, 2014 5:47:55 GMT -5
I have noticed that the Bongo prices have just had a massive price increase. Freight for an XPA-5 to down under will cost 360AUD. I checked the price a few months ago and it was 100AUD cheaper. Certainly takes the shine off your new purchase especially when you add local taxes. I think EMO will have to revisit their new shipper. EMO will have to realise that most, if not all, international clients will sacrifice shipping priority for price. Freight for the UPA-700 is 258AUD ($240US). XPA-5 delivery = $A360............hell, I'm sure mine was under $A200 back in FedEx days. Freight at close to 50% of the cost of the item is a big turn off. I might have to start arranging my own! Cheers Gary Was $220 when I ordered mine Gary
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Post by jutta on Aug 11, 2014 5:51:32 GMT -5
I'm not sure why it's jumped so high. Is it Bongo?? I ship regularly around the world at my work. Small parcels daily and large (up to 2cbm) fortnightly and none if that has moved anything but marginally in recent times. I'm not sure if it's FedEx or Bongo are taking their own profit on the shipping charge too. What ever it is it makes it bloody hard to justify. Hopefully someone will jump on my USP/ERC/XPA-5 combo locally now!!
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Post by jutta on Aug 11, 2014 19:17:29 GMT -5
Then....... I go to order a couple of XPA-1L's this morning and now after many years of Emotiva purchases I am now according to BONGO outside of their delivery area and a further $28 shipping fee will need to be added before I can proceed any further with the order. So delivery for what was once approx $220AUD is now just shy of $400.......
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Post by richardrc on Aug 12, 2014 3:43:08 GMT -5
Checkout comgateway.com for a pricing comparison. I was surprised that they were US40 cheaper than bongo for an XPA-5 and that includes the free shipping to Oregon. We should be getting a better deal as an exclusive to Emo or perhaps their international sales just aren't that strong to demand better pricing.
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Post by robcs on Aug 12, 2014 4:56:55 GMT -5
XPA-5 delivery = $A360............hell, I'm sure mine was under $A200 back in FedEx days. Freight at close to 50% of the cost of the item is a big turn off. I might have to start arranging my own! Cheers Gary Was $220 when I ordered mine Gary Yeah. A UMC-1 plus XPA-5 cost $237.38 in November 2010 when I purchased, shipped to Australia. A XPA-1 and ERD-1 (pairs) cost $202.64 at about the same time. Dan , Cathy, Bongo is having lend of you guys and will put the wind up your international customers!! Can we please go back to FedEx? Their lcoal guys in Aus were just fantastic.
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Post by Topend on Aug 12, 2014 6:52:26 GMT -5
Was $220 when I ordered mine Gary Yeah. A UMC-1 plus XPA-5 cost $237.38 in November 2010 when I purchased, shipped to Australia. A XPA-1 and ERD-1 (pairs) cost $202.64 at about the same time. Dan , Cathy, Bongo is having lend of you guys and will put the wind up your international customers!! Can we please go back to FedEx? Their lcoal guys in Aus were just fantastic. I couldn't agree more. Go back to the way things were. Dave.
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Post by richardrc on Aug 12, 2014 22:41:13 GMT -5
Can we please go back to FedEx? Their lcoal guys in Aus were just fantastic. +1
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Post by autocrat on Aug 13, 2014 0:41:31 GMT -5
OK.
If I go onto the Bongo site, and use their shipping calculator, for the XPA-5 (exact weight and dimensions as per the product page), I get:
USD: $345.36
Seems similar to what people are being quoted, although if pressed their calculator converts to AUD at a rate of about 80c, hopefully this isn't what is happening with people's quotes. It seems like Emotiva are getting the bog-standard shipping rates.
I'm also in with their "1% of customers" who live in a "remote location". 45 minutes drive from the Sydney CBD, yeah right. I'm almost positive we can do better than this.
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Post by Gary Cook on Aug 13, 2014 0:50:31 GMT -5
OK. If I go onto the Bongo site, and use their shipping calculator, for the XPA-5 (exact weight and dimensions as per the product page), I get: USD: $345.36 Seems similar to what people are being quoted, although if pressed their calculator converts to AUD at a rate of about 80c, hopefully this isn't what is happening with people's quotes. It seems like Emotiva are getting the bog-standard shipping rates. I'm also in with their "1% of customers" who live in a "remote location". 45 minutes drive from the Sydney CBD, yeah right. I'm almost positive we can do better than this. It's actually worse than that as I have been assured several times that Emotiva deducts the usual US freight, which they don't charge for US customers. Hence international customers should pay only the "additional cost", the net, not the gross. Cheers Gary
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Post by jutta on Aug 13, 2014 2:51:27 GMT -5
OK. If I go onto the Bongo site, and use their shipping calculator, for the XPA-5 (exact weight and dimensions as per the product page), I get: USD: $345.36 Seems similar to what people are being quoted, although if pressed their calculator converts to AUD at a rate of about 80c, hopefully this isn't what is happening with people's quotes. It seems like Emotiva are getting the bog-standard shipping rates. I'm also in with their "1% of customers" who live in a "remote location". 45 minutes drive from the Sydney CBD, yeah right. I'm almost positive we can do better than this. It's actually worse than that as I have been assured several times that Emotiva deducts the usual US freight, which they don't charge for US customers. Hence international customers should pay only the "additional cost", the net, not the gross. Cheers Gary Mate, I'm a 5 minute drive literally from the CBD here. It's nuts. I'm not paying double the freight I did last order. I refuse to. Was upgrading, shouldn't have sold first!! And $0.80 conversion rate!! It's $0.93 almost...... that's an extra 10% there too. This Bongo mob will be raking the $$$$ in.
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Post by dragonV on Aug 13, 2014 5:33:16 GMT -5
What a pity my emotiva buying days look like they are over with this new shipping. The shipping was always pretty reasonable until now Quote to Canberra Australia for one XPA-2 Gen2......ouuuuuuch Under the old freight use to arrive as per the express below and I am sure was less than half the price? International Economy (9-10 day transit) 356.81 AUD International Express (5-7 day transit) 461.73 AUD
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Post by saarg on Aug 13, 2014 10:31:17 GMT -5
Isn't there any shipping forwarders you can use in Australia that are cheaper than Bongo? At least here in Norway there is shipping forwarders that are cheaper than what Emotiva was before and now with Bongo. If I'm going to buy from Emotiva again, it's going to be sent through a shipping forwarder.
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Post by robmeul on Aug 13, 2014 14:03:11 GMT -5
Hi Cathy Good news indeed for those of us abroad (UK for me), although when I've ordered things in the past, the sales teams have always been super helpful and have always sorted things out with a quick email exchange. Whilst on the international front, was the any more news on the proposed European warehouse? Thanks pete S Hi Pete, Shipping direct and using Bongo for our checkout saves our customers money in conversion, warehousing and fulfillment fees. Also, it would only serve the EU nations, so after searching and considering several solutions, this was the best for our customers by far . Pricing is awesome, hope you all check it out. Enjoy! Pricing is awesome yeah, awesomely high! I vot for FEDEX!
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Post by Erwin.BE on Aug 13, 2014 17:40:42 GMT -5
Hi Pete, Shipping direct and using Bongo for our checkout saves our customers money in conversion, warehousing and fulfillment fees. Also, it would only serve the EU nations, so after searching and considering several solutions, this was the best for our customers by far . Pricing is awesome, hope you all check it out. Enjoy! Pricing is awesome yeah, awesomely high! I vot for FEDEX! Well, it seems that Emotiva got greatly reduced prices from FedEx. There is a nice XPR-2 on sale in the Emporium. I asked FedEx for a quote for shipping from USA to BE, EU. It would have been €547 excl duties!. I payed Emotiva $251 excl VAT and duties 2 years ago for shipping my XPR-5... If you have an account with FedEx and ship regularly, you get 45% off easily. It seems Bongo is keeping some of that profit...
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Post by Gary Cook on Aug 13, 2014 19:28:13 GMT -5
I've checked my original Emotiva invoices and compared them to online quotes as at today; An XPA-5 to Sydney was $275 (FedEx) now $355 (Bongo), that's a ~30% price increase. A UMC-200 to Sydney was $118 (FedEx) now $162 (Bongo), that's a ~37% price increase.
As a comparison, original Amazon invoices over the last 2 years; 10 BD's to Sydney in Dec 2012 was $22 while in the same sized box 11 BD's to Sydney in May 2014 was $19, that's a ~20% price decrease.
I have ignored exchange rate changes for the above comparisons, they are all based on the same $US to $A rate.
I don't think I actually need to say anything, the numbers speak for themselves.
Cheers Gary
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Post by bootman on Aug 13, 2014 19:32:12 GMT -5
Can you guys buy the Emotiva gear say via Amazon and not use this service? (newbie question here since I have no clue either way)
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Post by autocrat on Aug 13, 2014 20:04:05 GMT -5
I have a question - are the quotes you guys are getting in USD or AUD?
Thanks
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Post by richardrc on Aug 13, 2014 21:07:18 GMT -5
No. A great many amazon sellers will not ship internationally, which is why I use comgateway. Emotiva is doing themselves no favours by not reviewing their association with bongo. There have been no major increases in anything to justify the exorbitant price increase. Bongo also force you (as far as I can tell) to use their exchange rates, where as I like to purchase in $US and receive a more favourable rate from my bank. Hey Gary, almost time for a LCL shipment, what do you think? Jutta, I think you gave the XPA-5 away. Current replacement cost would be $1800AUD landed for a gen2 and the difference between them as far as I can tell is mostly cosmetic. Can you guys buy the Emotiva gear say via Amazon and not use this service? (newbie question here since I have no clue either way)
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Post by Gary Cook on Aug 13, 2014 21:43:04 GMT -5
Can you guys buy the Emotiva gear say via Amazon and not use this service? (newbie question here since I have no clue either way) UMC-200 on Amazon.com We're sorry. This item can't be shipped to your selected destination. You may either change the shipping address or delete the item from your order.
Cheers Gary
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