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Post by ejn1111 on Feb 15, 2016 19:31:30 GMT -5
Just curious which 4k jvc projector u r referring to? Hi, I've ordered the new JVC DLA-RS400.... (this is the Pro version of the DLA-x550r which is identical). Should have it in a few days. It's not full native 4k like the Sony but I hear it comes extremely close with their eshift latest revision for 4K sources. |
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Post by ejn1111 on Feb 15, 2016 19:37:43 GMT -5
Just got an email from the Blue Jeans Cable guy saying no passive HDMI cable is likely to work at full 4k settings beyond 25 ft  I will try it first but has me thinking I might have to rethink my connections. I was wondering if that distance would make a difference. They're the experts so they're probably right (unless they're trying to sell you a new cable, haha). I have a cable that long that isn't rated for high speed, but pushed 3D fine, so you might as well give it a shot. -tm It's been great for all 1080P sources. It should also do 4k @ 30fps fine but will likely struggle with 4K60 with HDR when the new UHD players become available. I'm going to try the Monoprice Cabernet Active HDMI 18 Gbps cable. I've heard several have had good luck with it. |
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Post by qdtjni on Mar 16, 2016 18:05:50 GMT -5
Any news?
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Post by klinemj on Mar 16, 2016 19:32:19 GMT -5
Nothing in the latest podcast, even though they talked the Gen 3 amps, the new speakers, and the Emersa line. For those interested, maybe they could call Emotiva and inquire.
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Post by qdtjni on Mar 24, 2016 19:53:12 GMT -5
I mailed Emotiva and got an answer a few days back.
Here is what it said:
"I am sorry the HDMI board isn't ready just yet. I am sorry. Hopefully in the next month or 2 it will be available. We will email everyone when the HDMI board is ready."
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Post by number8 on Mar 28, 2016 12:09:09 GMT -5
Is this new board for all HDMI inputs or just one as I have read sometimes?
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Post by AudioHTIT on Mar 28, 2016 12:54:07 GMT -5
Is this new board for all HDMI inputs or just one as I have read sometimes? The first one available will be the one input / one output upgrade. |
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Post by number8 on Mar 29, 2016 9:20:11 GMT -5
Is this new board for all HDMI inputs or just one as I have read sometimes? The first one available will be the one input / one output upgrade. Thanks. Does this means that a second version is in the pipe as well? |
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Post by cwt on Mar 29, 2016 10:40:48 GMT -5
The first one available will be the one input / one output upgrade. Thanks. Does this means that a second version is in the pipe as well? Yes number8 ;Keith posted this recently  |
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Post by wfdtamar on May 4, 2016 16:45:20 GMT -5
My UMC-1 has just died. Considering an XMC-1 (with 40% discount), but wondering if I should wait for one of these boards to become available. I'm in Australia, so shipping it back for the upgrade is not a viable option. Currently my TV is a 1080p one so I'm really just planning for a future TV. Would an HDFury Integral be a way around this HDCP issue with the current XMC-1? www.hdfury.com/shop/splitters/integral-4k60-444-600mhz/HDfury Integral is a 4K60 4:4:4 600MHz 18Gbps HDMI2.0a Level A capable device built for system integrators and advanced users that will please everyone else as well. By supporting the max bandwidth and data transfer rate of the HDMI2.0a standard and by offering new appealing options and possibilities, HDfury Integral set another couple of World 1st features. Versatile by design, it is a kind of hybrid HDfury that you can operate, configure and control from your Android/Apple smartphone/tablet. HDfury Integral is capable of connecting any HDCP revision sources devices to any HDCP revision sink devices. GUARANTEED! If you ever saw the following statement: “this TV does not support HDCP 2.2. Make sure you have HDCP 2.2 capable TV” or a similar HDCP error message, make sure you never see it again with HDfury Integral! Featuring 2 inputs and 2 outputs, HDfury Integral can act as a Splitter, Infoframe and HDR metadata Injector and Extractor, HDCP Doctor, CEC Commander, Audio extractor, Audio replacement, HDMI Doctor, Matrix, EDID management and more… Discover the tomorrow’s hardware today! |
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Post by qdtjni on May 4, 2016 16:58:59 GMT -5
Not that I would loose any sleep over it, but is such a device legal?
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Post by thezone on May 4, 2016 17:03:27 GMT -5
For those running a HTPC or other device which supports separate hdmi outputs why not just send audio via hdmi to the XMC-1 and a 2nd hdmi directly to the TV? This takes the XMC-1 out of the video equation all together, its not like its doing any video processing anyway. I have been running this way for a while now and I also find it alleviates any hdmi handshake issues.
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Post by cwt on May 5, 2016 7:45:07 GMT -5
For those running a HTPC or other device which supports separate hdmi outputs why not just send audio via hdmi to the XMC-1 and a 2nd hdmi directly to the TV? This takes the XMC-1 out of the video equation all together, its not like its doing any video processing anyway. I have been running this way for a while now and I also find it alleviates any hdmi handshake issues. Always an option though you do lose the xmc1 osd as a consequence and doing adjustments on the fly [ if you like to] and switching is complicated with more sources to switch . Good option for those with older hdmi version avr's but then again hdmi handshaking is no fun when edids have to be read and some sources sometimes arent compliant ; like htcp's anecdotally  |
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Post by dwaleke on May 5, 2016 16:12:47 GMT -5
For those running a HTPC or other device which supports separate hdmi outputs why not just send audio via hdmi to the XMC-1 and a 2nd hdmi directly to the TV? This takes the XMC-1 out of the video equation all together, its not like its doing any video processing anyway. I have been running this way for a while now and I also find it alleviates any hdmi handshake issues. Always an option though you do lose the xmc1 osd as a consequence and doing adjustments on the fly [ if you like to] and switching is complicated with more sources to switch . Good option for those with older hdmi version avr's but then again hdmi handshaking is no fun when edids have to be read and some sources sometimes arent compliant ; like htcp's anecdotally This defeats the purpose of the AVR altogether. The HTPC can do everything the AVR can do except HDMI switching. If you are going to bypass that feature there is no reason for the AVR (except to decode Atmos and DTS:X but the XMC-1 cannot do that today anyway). |
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Post by sycraft on May 5, 2016 21:09:56 GMT -5
Not that I would loose any sleep over it, but is such a device legal? Probably. There may be a loophole in the HDMI licensing or something. Keith weighed in and said he didn't think it would be (it would be a violation of the HDMI licensing terms). However despite the media industry whining about the HDFury device, it continues to be sold. Also Monoprice recently introduced a similar device in their Blackbird line and they are a pretty major company, I can't imagine they are doing it if they don't think they can get away with it. So I dunno the details, but it doesn't seem like there is a legal issue. |
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Post by Gary Cook on May 5, 2016 21:18:29 GMT -5
Considering an XMC-1 (with 40% discount), but wondering if I should wait for one of these boards to become available. I'm in Australia, so shipping it back for the upgrade is not a viable option. Currently my TV is a 1080p one so I'm really just planning for a future TV. +1 I'm waiting on the 4K/HDMI/HDCP/Atmos/DTS-X upgrades to be included. Cheers Gary |
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Post by bootman on May 6, 2016 5:19:03 GMT -5
Just got an email from the Blue Jeans Cable guy saying no passive HDMI cable is likely to work at full 4k settings beyond 25 ft I will try it first but has me thinking I might have to rethink my connections. I was wondering if that distance would make a difference. They're the experts so they're probably right (unless they're trying to sell you a new cable, haha). I have a cable that long that isn't rated for high speed, but pushed 3D fine, so you might as well give it a shot. -tm Too short may also cause issues with reflections at that rate. So stick to 6 feet min within your cabinet or go all active. 4k60 will reveal all sorts of cheap cable defects.  |
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Post by qdtjni on May 6, 2016 5:57:27 GMT -5
4k60 will reveal all sorts of cheap cable defects. As well as expensive cable defects. |
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Post by qdtjni on May 6, 2016 6:01:06 GMT -5
Not that I would loose any sleep over it, but is such a device legal? Probably. There may be a loophole in the HDMI licensing or something. Keith weighed in and said he didn't think it would be (it would be a violation of the HDMI licensing terms). However despite the media industry whining about the HDFury device, it continues to be sold. Also Monoprice recently introduced a similar device in their Blackbird line and they are a pretty major company, I can't imagine they are doing it if they don't think they can get away with it. So I dunno the details, but it doesn't seem like there is a legal issue. At least for producing, sleeping and owning the devices but maybe by using it.for bypassing HDCP? |
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Post by KeithL on May 6, 2016 9:50:11 GMT -5
As far as I know, at least certain of the HDFury boxes are produced overseas, and cannot be legally sold in the US (although I haven't done extensive research on what all their boxes do individually). And, on any such device, you have to read the details very carefully. (Do they actually say that they give you an UNALTERED FULL QUALITY DIGITAL AUDIO STREAM?) I can tell you that the legal limitations forbid an HDMI device from "stripping out and passing on the full quality digital audio stream". There have been in the past, and still are, devices which decode the digital audio to analog, then RE-ENCODE it into digital again. I can also tell you that a Toslink connection doesn't have enough bandwidth to output a high-res multi-channel digital audio stream. However, it does have enough bandwidth to output a Dolby Digital "core" stream, which is lossy, and is all the Monoprice extractor device claims to support. (I assume that the HDMI license doesn't object to their delivering you that reduced-quality audio stream.) Also note that Monoprice's "4k Series 7.1 HDMI audio extractor" supports 4k video - but NOT HDMI 2.0 or HDCP 2.2 (like the original XMC-1 HDMI board). And, as I mentioned above, it only outputs analog audio and Toslink audio (which limits it to lossy Dolby Digital, but doesn't support the high-res multi-channel formats). Not that I would loose any sleep over it, but is such a device legal? Probably. There may be a loophole in the HDMI licensing or something. Keith weighed in and said he didn't think it would be (it would be a violation of the HDMI licensing terms). However despite the media industry whining about the HDFury device, it continues to be sold. Also Monoprice recently introduced a similar device in their Blackbird line and they are a pretty major company, I can't imagine they are doing it if they don't think they can get away with it. So I dunno the details, but it doesn't seem like there is a legal issue. |
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