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Post by Hair Nick on May 27, 2016 13:13:38 GMT -5
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Post by MusicHead on May 27, 2016 13:17:00 GMT -5
Great!!!!!!!!!! Now we need at least one of the new pre-pro to go with them. I know, I know, we are never happy  |
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Post by KeithL on May 27, 2016 15:07:39 GMT -5
It's coming... It's coming...  Great!!!!!!!!!! Now we need at least one of the new pre-pro to go with them. I know, I know, we are never happy |
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Post by Axis on May 27, 2016 16:20:22 GMT -5
About Time ! |
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Post by vneal on May 27, 2016 16:23:40 GMT -5
They all look like GREAT VALUES
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Post by teaman on May 27, 2016 16:34:35 GMT -5
Silly to not offer the same five year warranty.
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Post by Dan Laufman on May 27, 2016 16:45:24 GMT -5
Silly to not offer the same five year warranty. I believe this is a very strong warranty. Same as Marantz... better than Oppo... |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2016 17:51:10 GMT -5
Silly to not offer the same five year warranty. I believe this is a very strong warranty. Same as Marantz... better than Oppo... But if you know your products are quality and won't hardly ever be serviced. 5 years shouldn't be a problem for you. Why not keep it at five years. |
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Post by sycraft on May 28, 2016 3:09:19 GMT -5
I believe this is a very strong warranty. Same as Marantz... better than Oppo... But if you know your products are quality and won't hardly ever be serviced. 5 years shouldn't be a problem for you. Why not keep it at five years. Two main reasons I imagine: 1) Primarily an actuarial cost decision. The longer you warranty something, the more risk you take on. So you have to limit that based on price. If something is cheap, and particularly if it is low margin, you can only assume so much risk. At a certain point, you want to be able to remove the liability from your books, say "This is no longer something that could cost us money." That's why so very little carries lifetime warranties, even things that really are likely to last that long. Insurers, particularly insurers that deal in extended warranties have massive tables of this kind of stuff. Now this is compounded with consumer electronics when you aren't going to keep making the same part for decades. Every few years you are likely to replace your lineup. Sometimes you'll discontinue a line. Well that means if a warranty is too long, you can wind up not having the ability to replace a unit with the same unit, and maybe not even a similar one because maybe you don't make those anymore. 2) To provide another differentiating factor between budget and premium lines. If everything carries the same warranty, that is one less benefit to purchasing the premium line. A company wants to give people as many reasons as possible to want to buy higher end products since those make them more money per unit sold. I'll again use computer PSUs as an example: PSUs generally last a really long time, they usually outlast the useful life of a computer. However, warranties vary based on cost even from the same manufacturer. If you buy Seasonic's ECO 430, which is a budget PSU they'll give you a 3 year warranty. Get a G-450, a midrange unit they'll do 5. A high end Platinum 660, they'll do 7. All will likely last you 10+ years, but the more you spend, the more they are willing to warranty. This is extremely common across all PSU manufacturers. Also if you desire a longer warranty, buy one. Those insurers I mentioned will sell you one. Squaretrade is probably the best known. Based on the kind of equipment, the price, the length of warranty and the nature of it they can come up with a figure. |
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Post by Dan Laufman on May 28, 2016 6:47:02 GMT -5
But if you know your products are quality and won't hardly ever be serviced. 5 years shouldn't be a problem for you. Why not keep it at five years. Two main reasons I imagine: 1) Primarily an actuarial cost decision. The longer you warranty something, the more risk you take on. So you have to limit that based on price. If something is cheap, and particularly if it is low margin, you can only assume so much risk. At a certain point, you want to be able to remove the liability from your books, say "This is no longer something that could cost us money." That's why so very little carries lifetime warranties, even things that really are likely to last that long. Insurers, particularly insurers that deal in extended warranties have massive tables of this kind of stuff. Now this is compounded with consumer electronics when you aren't going to keep making the same part for decades. Every few years you are likely to replace your lineup. Sometimes you'll discontinue a line. Well that means if a warranty is too long, you can wind up not having the ability to replace a unit with the same unit, and maybe not even a similar one because maybe you don't make those anymore. 2) To provide another differentiating factor between budget and premium lines. If everything carries the same warranty, that is one less benefit to purchasing the premium line. A company wants to give people as many reasons as possible to want to buy higher end products since those make them more money per unit sold. I'll again use computer PSUs as an example: PSUs generally last a really long time, they usually outlast the useful life of a computer. However, warranties vary based on cost even from the same manufacturer. If you buy Seasonic's ECO 430, which is a budget PSU they'll give you a 3 year warranty. Get a G-450, a midrange unit they'll do 5. A high end Platinum 660, they'll do 7. All will likely last you 10+ years, but the more you spend, the more they are willing to warranty. This is extremely common across all PSU manufacturers. Also if you desire a longer warranty, buy one. Those insurers I mentioned will sell you one. Squaretrade is probably the best known. Based on the kind of equipment, the price, the length of warranty and the nature of it they can come up with a figure. Thank you for an adult analysis of the situation. Cheers, Dan |
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Post by Porscheguy on May 28, 2016 14:35:38 GMT -5
So you buy a $2500.00 preamp and drive it with a $600.00 amp? Huh? Something else has to be on the way...
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Post by Porscheguy on May 28, 2016 14:36:33 GMT -5
Remember, this never ends. Invent, reinvent, renew, revamp. Marketing 101. |
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Post by Dan Laufman on May 28, 2016 14:41:24 GMT -5
We've already announced the new BasX MC-700 pre-pro. It's coming in the late summer. $599.00.
Details will be posted in the next couple of weeks.
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Post by Dan Laufman on May 28, 2016 14:42:55 GMT -5
31 new products in the hopper now... You'll see new products being released all summer and into the fall...  |
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Post by lehighvalleyjeff on May 28, 2016 14:45:13 GMT -5
We've already announced the new BasX MC-700 pre-pro. It's coming in the late summer. $599.00. Details will be posted in the next couple of weeks. $599 for a pre/pro seems like an awesome value! |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 15:19:13 GMT -5
Two main reasons I imagine: 1) Primarily an actuarial cost decision. The longer you warranty something, the more risk you take on. So you have to limit that based on price. If something is cheap, and particularly if it is low margin, you can only assume so much risk. At a certain point, you want to be able to remove the liability from your books, say "This is no longer something that could cost us money." That's why so very little carries lifetime warranties, even things that really are likely to last that long. Insurers, particularly insurers that deal in extended warranties have massive tables of this kind of stuff. Now this is compounded with consumer electronics when you aren't going to keep making the same part for decades. Every few years you are likely to replace your lineup. Sometimes you'll discontinue a line. Well that means if a warranty is too long, you can wind up not having the ability to replace a unit with the same unit, and maybe not even a similar one because maybe you don't make those anymore. 2) To provide another differentiating factor between budget and premium lines. If everything carries the same warranty, that is one less benefit to purchasing the premium line. A company wants to give people as many reasons as possible to want to buy higher end products since those make them more money per unit sold. I'll again use computer PSUs as an example: PSUs generally last a really long time, they usually outlast the useful life of a computer. However, warranties vary based on cost even from the same manufacturer. If you buy Seasonic's ECO 430, which is a budget PSU they'll give you a 3 year warranty. Get a G-450, a midrange unit they'll do 5. A high end Platinum 660, they'll do 7. All will likely last you 10+ years, but the more you spend, the more they are willing to warranty. This is extremely common across all PSU manufacturers. Also if you desire a longer warranty, buy one. Those insurers I mentioned will sell you one. Squaretrade is probably the best known. Based on the kind of equipment, the price, the length of warranty and the nature of it they can come up with a figure. Thank you for an adult analysis of the situation. Cheers, Dan And thank you for once again confirming how terrible you are at tact with your customers. You basically claim anyone saying going from 5 years to 3 years is questionable is not being an adult. Shame on you Dan |
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Post by Dan Laufman on May 28, 2016 15:57:09 GMT -5
Thank you for an adult analysis of the situation. Cheers, Dan And thank you for once again confirming how terrible you are at tact with your customers. You basically claim anyone saying going from 5 years to 3 years is questionable is not being an adult. Shame on you Dan Dude, I was NOT being sarcastic when I thanked you for a thoughtful response. What the heck is going on today? Is it a full moon? I liked your reasoned reply and thanked you. Nothing more. There was no insult intended. Peace, Dan |
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Post by HTfanHungary on May 28, 2016 16:24:39 GMT -5
And thank you for once again confirming how terrible you are at tact with your customers. You basically claim anyone saying going from 5 years to 3 years is questionable is not being an adult. Shame on you Dan Dude, I was NOT being sarcastic when I thanked you for a thoughtful response. What the heck is going on today? Is it a full moon? I liked your reasoned reply and thanked you. Nothing more. There was no insult intended. Peace, Dan Respect, Big Dan. |
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Post by monkumonku on May 28, 2016 18:38:47 GMT -5
Thank you for an adult analysis of the situation. Cheers, Dan And thank you for once again confirming how terrible you are at tact with your customers. You basically claim anyone saying going from 5 years to 3 years is questionable is not being an adult. Shame on you Dan What's with the boulder on your shoulders? Lighten up, eh? |
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Post by creimes on May 28, 2016 23:46:45 GMT -5
31 new products in the hopper now... You'll see new products being released all summer and into the fall... Emersa launching soon ? |
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