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Post by charlieeco on Jan 8, 2017 16:18:41 GMT -5
Agree. I was impressed when I saw this concept. Elegant. |
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Post by Axis on Jan 8, 2017 16:21:08 GMT -5
I'm an audiophile for over 35 years and I certainly listen and owned over the years a lot of very good and reputable brand name of speakers, that said, in 2011 I given a try on the complete Emotiva Reference series, with the ERT-8.3 , ERM-6.3 , ERM-6.2 , ERD-1 with keeping in mind that if it was not good enough compared to the hi-end speaker brand name on the market I was looking for at this moment, I will just have to send them back in the trial period for a refund, but guess what? 5 years later I still enjoying every seconds that I listen these speakers. They are in the same class of many big names of speakers only manufacturers. So to resume, Emotiva is already for me a good speaker manufacturer. charlieeco take the leap. You will not regret it. These new Airmotiv speakers sound awesome ! Get some of the Airmotiv powered monitors just because everyone should have some powered monitors and then report back here Sir.  |
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Post by Axis on Jan 8, 2017 16:22:37 GMT -5
Agree. I was impressed when I saw this concept. Elegant. Again, they were just a concept and there is no reason to wish for these. They are not for sale.  |
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Post by charlieeco on Jan 8, 2017 16:29:19 GMT -5
From the pictures on new speakers, are they 8" drivers? ?
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Post by Axis on Jan 8, 2017 16:30:51 GMT -5
From the pictures on new speakers, are they 8" drivers?? yes |
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Post by charlieeco on Jan 8, 2017 16:32:21 GMT -5
when are the prices and new specs for the new line of speakers appearing on the EMO webpage??
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Post by Axis on Jan 8, 2017 16:39:45 GMT -5
when are the prices and new specs for the new line of speakers appearing on the EMO webpage?? no one knows |
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Post by Axis on Jan 8, 2017 17:01:44 GMT -5
Bumping this post and picture. This is what is happening here. Here is another photo of the T2 Towers.  |
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Post by frenchyfranky on Jan 8, 2017 17:17:39 GMT -5
I'm an audiophile for over 35 years and I certainly listen and owned over the years a lot of very good and reputable brand name of speakers, that said, in 2011 I given a try on the complete Emotiva Reference series, with the ERT-8.3 , ERM-6.3 , ERM-6.2 , ERD-1 with keeping in mind that if it was not good enough compared to the hi-end speaker brand name on the market I was looking for at this moment, I will just have to send them back in the trial period for a refund, but guess what? 5 years later I still enjoying every seconds that I listen these speakers. They are in the same class of many big names of speakers only manufacturers. So to resume, Emotiva is already for me a good speaker manufacturer. No, my speakers hearing experience are about B&W, Kef, Paradigm, Snell Acoustic, Monitor Audio, Spendor, Castle, Linn, P.E. Leon, Thiel, Martin Logan, Magnepan, Mcintosh, Dunlavy, Dynaudio, Elipson, etc, etc, just to name a few, but sorry I never had the chance to heard Def Tech and to be honest since 5 years I'm so happy that I avoid listening session in stores or audio shows. I know, I'm starting to be lazy but I now prefer and enjoy listening music instead sounds. |
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Post by dust770 on Jan 9, 2017 2:39:59 GMT -5
So far we have been blowing people's minds with the T2 towers...especially when they hear them and know they can get a pair for 1K. The whole room that we have setup with the XMC, XPA7, T2, C2, E2, plus S12 subs is around 8K. You can put together a hell of a theater for less than a single pair of speakers down the hall. Seeing people's reactions to that is what makes shows like this really fun. You can see the lightbulbs go off in their heads like they just discovered the holy grail I need to get widdling away at the WAF lol, do we have the dimensions of theT2 and c2 yet? |
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Post by copperpipe on Jan 9, 2017 9:21:30 GMT -5
Agree. I was impressed when I saw this concept. Elegant. Maybe they can resurrect this for a new "reference" product line? I liked that design very much, for the following reasons: - teardrop (or curved) cabinet - no visible screws or plate bumps holding the speakers in place, just a completely flat baffle - speaker cones have no bumps in the center or ugly/busy stuff rising out of the cone That designed reminds me very much of the Kef R series, only even nicer than that since R is still boxy. But there is something very clean and classy about both the Emotiva concept above, and this R series. Both (would) have a high WAF:  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 9:43:01 GMT -5
The "design" in that picture was never manufactured. It was only a concept image generated by our graphic designer. It's nice, but would be substantially more expensive to manufacture, to the tune of 2.5x-3x the price of the Airmotiv towers. And to justify the more expensive cabinet, the drivers, crossover, hardware, etc. would need to become more expensive to match, which would probably bring the total multiplier to 4x-5x the cost of the Airmotiv speakers. So the feedback is appreciated, but what we have shown at CES is what the T2 product is going to be.
And a hand-polished Piano Black finish doesn't come for free, either. So the question is, which do you prize more - looks or performance? And how much more are you really willing to pay?
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Post by kewlmunky on Jan 9, 2017 9:52:10 GMT -5
Comparing my stealth 8 to the T1/2 towers, I think people find the towers looking so awkward due to the partial angle design of it. Where as the Stealth 8s have the entire front angled.
I am much more concerned about functionality over form, so if this design gets me a lot more for my money I'm fine with it.
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Post by brutiarti on Jan 9, 2017 10:29:22 GMT -5
I wonder if the piano black finish would make the speakers look nicer. Probably people would pay $50-70 per speaker for a glossy finish, idk if it can be a possibility in the future
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Post by copperpipe on Jan 9, 2017 10:33:19 GMT -5
The "design" in that picture was never manufactured. It was only a concept image generated by our graphic designer. It's nice, but would be substantially more expensive to manufacture, to the tune of 2.5x-3x the price of the Airmotiv towers. And to justify the more expensive cabinet, the drivers, crossover, hardware, etc. would need to become more expensive to match, which would probably bring the total multiplier to 4x-5x the cost of the Airmotiv speakers. So the feedback is appreciated, but what we have shown at CES is what the T2 product is going to be. And a hand-polished Piano Black finish doesn't come for free, either. So the question is, which do you prize more - looks or performance? And how much more are you really willing to pay? I don't envy you guys sometimes; you develop a good product and yet it will be picked apart and gripes will be found Guilty of that myself. The biggest problem I have with the airmotiv passive line (t1/t2) is the (awkward) angles. They're very polarizing, seems like you either like it or strongly dislike it. Not trying to complain or dump all over your product; I'm willing to bet they sound "best in class" for the price. But just wanted to explain my opinion and give some feedback. Seems to me that looks become more and more important as the size of the speaker grows. A small bookshelf can be overlooked or still fade into the background. But if you have these massive towers in your room then it has to "look nice" in addition to sounding good. This is the problem I have with the Tekton speakers too. By all accounts they sound terrific, but they look very much "unfinished" or like a DIY speaker. I can't ignore looks once the speaker becomes dominant in the room. That said, I might swing by your Toronto dealer once he has them in stock to see what they look like in real life. Those wide angle shots are not doing the T2's any justice. |
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Post by Axis on Jan 9, 2017 10:44:48 GMT -5
Imagine that you can actually afford these speakers. Imagine that after they have been in your audio room for an hour, you are hugging them and love the looks of them and if anybody tries to get your speakers they will regret it. Those other speakers are an artist creating an illusion with graphics of only one view. You can not know what they would look like as a three dimensional object. Those drivers look very recessed and give the created graphic image a very appealing look that in reality may not work sonically. |
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Post by Axis on Jan 9, 2017 11:08:03 GMT -5
@roryb do the angles on the front of the Airmotiv speakers improve the Airmotiv speakers ? No top secret information needed.  |
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Post by Axis on Jan 9, 2017 11:53:38 GMT -5
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Post by Axis on Jan 9, 2017 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by jasona on Jan 9, 2017 12:10:32 GMT -5
@roryb do the angles on the front of the Airmotiv speakers improve the Airmotiv speakers ? No top secret information needed. Typically baffle edge treatments like facets or radiuses are intended to minimize the effects of baffle edge diffraction. In short, diffraction occurs when sound from the speaker cones transitions from half space (2pi) to full space (4pi). At low frequencies, the sound essentially is always operating in full space (think of it as wrapping all the way around the speaker), as the wavelengths are longer than the dimensions of the front baffle of the speaker. At higher frequencies, the wavelengths are shorter and operate in half space (they have the ability to bounce off the front of the speaker). At these higher frequencies, the abruptness of the transition from half space to full space can cause irregularities in the frequency response, most easily measurable directly on axis. If you can make the transition more gradual, and also if you can make it less symmetrical, you can reduce the magnitude of the effect. If you're interested in the deep details and want to make your brain melt out of your ears, here's some additional reading material: www.linkwitzlab.com/diffraction.htmwww.linkwitzlab.com/faq.htm#Q8 |
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