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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 20:14:44 GMT -5
I've still not deployed my Pendragons. I've taken them out of the box but they're still in the plastic covering. I'm still waiting on Eric to send the damn grilles. I knew I would be the one that would have to wait forever to get them. I sent him a mail last week and no response. They better show up soon. I'm tired of waiting.
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Post by Boomzilla on May 3, 2017 11:14:10 GMT -5
Yeah - grills do take longer. Since they're all custom-made, Tekton makes them in batches (whenever they have enough orders to justify doing them). The wait will be worth it, though.
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Post by butchgo on May 3, 2017 12:37:45 GMT -5
I've still not deployed my Pendragons. I've taken them out of the box but they're still in the plastic covering. I'm still waiting on Eric to send the damn grilles. I knew I would be the one that would have to wait forever to get them. I sent him a mail last week and no response. They better show up soon. I'm tired of waiting. You are much more patient than I am. There is no way I could have those beauties in the house and not be listening to them!!!!!! |
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Post by butchgo on May 5, 2017 13:23:22 GMT -5
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Post by Boomzilla on May 5, 2017 13:40:11 GMT -5
Don't like this week's Tekton? Just wait - new models will be along soon enough. The man is a tinkerer...
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Post by sheetmetalworker on May 5, 2017 16:57:02 GMT -5
I am listening with the lore impulses. A speaker voiced for the dragon, 10" Pendragon transducer and one of the tweeters. It's been a great speaker and I'm looking at buying another model from tekton.
I think for the $$ he has some of the best speakers I've heard. There not fancy and they kinda look generic in away. I know you can get some of his beautiful colors but that's not what makes his 🔊 sound Awsome.
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Post by rossonero3 on May 8, 2017 7:34:10 GMT -5
I am listening with the lore impulses. A speaker voiced for the dragon, 10" Pendragon transducer and one of the tweeters. It's been a great speaker and I'm looking at buying another model from tekton. I think for the $$ he has some of the best speakers I've heard. There not fancy and they kinda look generic in away. I know you can get some of his beautiful colors but that's not what makes his 🔊 sound Awsome. I forget what the Impulse looked like....it's a single 10" transducer and single tweeter in the Lore configuration right? I agree with your sentiments about value and my lore reference are in the standard satin black which look just fine to me. I'd like to hear those new Uruz with the ribbon tweeter. |
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Post by Bonzo on May 8, 2017 11:22:10 GMT -5
Don't like this week's Tekton? Just wait - new models will be along soon enough. The man is a tinkerer... Yes, from what everyone is saying, how he comes across is how he is. And for my personality, the way I work, which is to say VERY different than you Boom, I don't find his fly by night constantly experimenting and constantly releasing system very comforting. I said it better in my first post a few pages ago. Again, I've not heard his speakers, so I can't comment on that at all. I've heard people say (and I've read where people) compare them to Wilsons, which would be amazing, because the best I've ever heard were Wilson's. But, on the flip side, there are people like you who have over the years loved Klipsch and Thiel, and those are two speaker brands I have not liked the sound of. So needless to say they certainly make me wonder. I'd like to hear them sometime. But unlike your house, where speakers typically last about 3 months, I'm in no hurry to replace mine even after 10+ years of service.  |
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Post by pedrocols on May 8, 2017 11:27:27 GMT -5
Don't like this week's Tekton? Just wait - new models will be along soon enough. The man is a tinkerer... Yes, from what everyone is saying, how he comes across is how he is. And for my personality, the way I work, which is to say VERY different than you Boom, I don't find his fly by night constantly experimenting and constantly releasing system very comforting. I said it better in my first post a few pages ago. Again, I've not heard his speakers, so I can't comment on that at all. I've heard people say (and I've read where people) compare them to Wilsons, which would be amazing, because the best I've ever heard were Wilson's. But, on the flip side, there are people like you who have over the years loved Klipsch and Thiel, and those are two speaker brands I have not liked the sound of. So needless to say they certainly make me wonder. I'd like to hear them sometime. But unlike your house, where speakers typically last about 3 months, I'm in no hurry to replace mine even after 10+ years of service. I am kind of on the same boat here than you. I just would like to know, aside from his patents, what is he doing differently about speaker design than the rest? The rest also have a list of engeneers which I don't think he is one. |
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Post by novisnick on May 8, 2017 11:40:50 GMT -5
Yes, from what everyone is saying, how he comes across is how he is. And for my personality, the way I work, which is to say VERY different than you Boom, I don't find his fly by night constantly experimenting and constantly releasing system very comforting. I said it better in my first post a few pages ago. Again, I've not heard his speakers, so I can't comment on that at all. I've heard people say (and I've read where people) compare them to Wilsons, which would be amazing, because the best I've ever heard were Wilson's. But, on the flip side, there are people like you who have over the years loved Klipsch and Thiel, and those are two speaker brands I have not liked the sound of. So needless to say they certainly make me wonder. I'd like to hear them sometime. But unlike your house, where speakers typically last about 3 months, I'm in no hurry to replace mine even after 10+ years of service. I am kind of on the same boat here than you. I just would like to know, aside from his patents, what is he doing differently about speaker design than the rest? The rest also have a list of engeneers which I don't think he is one. Maybe,,,,,just maybe,,,,,,,, Basic knowledge + time + two ears can lead to something good/great! Maybe  |
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Post by Bonzo on May 8, 2017 11:51:15 GMT -5
I am kind of on the same boat here than you. I just would like to know, aside from his patents, what is he doing differently about speaker design than the rest? The rest also have a list of engeneers which I don't think he is one. Maybe,,,,,just maybe,,,,,,,, Basic knowledge + time + two ears can lead to something good/great! Maybe View AttachmentThat's not my issue as much as is his constant flip flopping and shifting of gears. There's no real cohesiveness to his train of thought. I describe my meaning a bit better in my original post. "My only similar comment is that it just comes across to me like the guy has no real idea what he's doing or where he's going. It's like he's just experimenting all the time, and it's all just hit or miss guessing with no actual science behind it. Too many models, models being added and changing out constantly, with no real consistency, pattern, or specified goals to anything he does. Except maybe that he just likes playing around with speakers. Wake up Tuesday and say, "hmmmmmm, what if I use 10 tweeters in a triangular pattern, and put one huge woofer firing backwards in the center." Then wake up Friday and say, "hmmmmmm, what if I use 1 tweeter on each side of the speaker with 3 woofers on each side and make them quad polar?" Then on the big day, Sunday, wake up and say, "what if I make speakers made from multiple speakers that all have over the top more than enough of everything.?" He's already done the Sunday one.....add more cones and it must be better approach.
Again, I've never heard them either, and I would like to. But the more and more as time goes by, the less interested I become in listening to them. The fire aim draw approach turns me away." |
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Post by simpleman68 on May 8, 2017 12:40:06 GMT -5
That's not my issue as much as is his constant flip flopping and shifting of gears. There's no real cohesiveness to his train of thought. I describe my meaning a bit better in my original post. "My only similar comment is that it just comes across to me like the guy has no real idea what he's doing or where he's going. It's like he's just experimenting all the time, and it's all just hit or miss guessing with no actual science behind it. Too many models, models being added and changing out constantly, with no real consistency, pattern, or specified goals to anything he does. Except maybe that he just likes playing around with speakers. Wake up Tuesday and say, "hmmmmmm, what if I use 10 tweeters in a triangular pattern, and put one huge woofer firing backwards in the center." Then wake up Friday and say, "hmmmmmm, what if I use 1 tweeter on each side of the speaker with 3 woofers on each side and make them quad polar?" Then on the big day, Sunday, wake up and say, "what if I make speakers made from multiple speakers that all have over the top more than enough of everything.?" He's already done the Sunday one.....add more cones and it must be better approach.
Again, I've never heard them either, and I would like to. But the more and more as time goes by, the less interested I become in listening to them. The fire aim draw approach turns me away." I understand where you're coming from. On the other hand, I know a renowned and respected amp builder that is the epitome of ADHD but he turns out some amazing pieces. I haven't heard the Tektons either but I'm looking forward to it. I don't expect they're going to best every speaker I've ever heard but I suspect they'll best some of them. Scott |
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Post by novisnick on May 8, 2017 12:56:43 GMT -5
Maybe,,,,,just maybe,,,,,,,, Basic knowledge + time + two ears can lead to something good/great! Maybe That's not my issue as much as is his constant flip flopping and shifting of gears. There's no real cohesiveness to his train of thought. I describe my meaning a bit better in my original post. "My only similar comment is that it just comes across to me like the guy has no real idea what he's doing or where he's going. It's like he's just experimenting all the time, and it's all just hit or miss guessing with no actual science behind it. Too many models, models being added and changing out constantly, with no real consistency, pattern, or specified goals to anything he does. Except maybe that he just likes playing around with speakers. Wake up Tuesday and say, "hmmmmmm, what if I use 10 tweeters in a triangular pattern, and put one huge woofer firing backwards in the center." Then wake up Friday and say, "hmmmmmm, what if I use 1 tweeter on each side of the speaker with 3 woofers on each side and make them quad polar?" Then on the big day, Sunday, wake up and say, "what if I make speakers made from multiple speakers that all have over the top more than enough of everything.?" He's already done the Sunday one.....add more cones and it must be better approach.
Again, I've never heard them either, and I would like to. But the more and more as time goes by, the less interested I become in listening to them. The fire aim draw approach turns me away." Find a chance to hear a set of Dragons,,,,,that is all  |
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Post by brubacca on May 8, 2017 21:19:18 GMT -5
Opinions on the Lore Reference? Any owners here?
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Post by rossonero3 on May 9, 2017 12:21:44 GMT -5
Opinions on the Lore Reference? Any owners here? Owner here. In fact I just noticed that Eric is using my speakers and living room pic on his product page for the lore reference (mine are the black ones, not the aqua green). I love my lore reference, but unfortunately i can't compare them to any other Tektons, this is my first pair. They replaced a pair of B&W 684 S2's which the Tektons are easily better than IMHO. The few things that stand out for me are the transparency, the 'live' sound, and bass response. In regards to transparency, it's been said about many of the Tekton designs that they clearly show, whether good or bad, the attributes of upstream components and the quality of your source material. I like to say the that these speakers have a 'live' sound because to me, they are not too laid back or 'polite', they are not harsh either or too forward, but are just fun to listen to and I find that with good quality live music that you really feel like you are right there in the room. My wife made a comment the other night that it was 'freaking her out' how 'real' the music sounded, (we were listening to some live Grateful Dead and Jerry's voice was so alive and right in front of us it seemed). In my room, which is only roughly 200sf or 13'6" x 13 x 8'6" with an additional bay window area on one end, the bass response is plenty low enough to use without a subwoofer for music, I do use one for movies of course. Unless you are total bass freak, in the proper room these will put out satisfying bass response. To me they seem to blend really through the frequency range, which may be because the 8" transducer is handling all but the highest frequencies. Overall i'm very satisfied, they are certainly not a perfect speaker or an end all be all, hell they are only $750 x pair! I would really love to hear some of the other designs to compare to these, particularly ones that are closer to the lore reference like the slightly larger lores (which are only $250 more) or the new Uruz. hope that helps. Mark |
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Post by Percussionista on May 9, 2017 15:29:44 GMT -5
Opinions on the Lore Reference? Any owners here? Owner here.... Overall i'm very satisfied, they are certainly not a perfect speaker or an end all be all, hell they are only $750 x pair! I would really love to hear some of the other designs to compare to these, ... Seems like that price point would be perfect to compare to a set of Emo T1's. |
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Post by foggy1956 on May 9, 2017 15:37:36 GMT -5
Owner here.... Overall i'm very satisfied, they are certainly not a perfect speaker or an end all be all, hell they are only $750 x pair! I would really love to hear some of the other designs to compare to these, ... Seems like that price point would be perfect to compare to a set of Emo T1's. I own the lore reference, m-lores, and Enzo's. I notice no difference between the 2 lores, the Enzo's are in a different league |
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Post by brutiarti on May 9, 2017 19:32:38 GMT -5
That's not my issue as much as is his constant flip flopping and shifting of gears. There's no real cohesiveness to his train of thought. I describe my meaning a bit better in my original post. "My only similar comment is that it just comes across to me like the guy has no real idea what he's doing or where he's going. It's like he's just experimenting all the time, and it's all just hit or miss guessing with no actual science behind it. Too many models, models being added and changing out constantly, with no real consistency, pattern, or specified goals to anything he does. Except maybe that he just likes playing around with speakers. Wake up Tuesday and say, "hmmmmmm, what if I use 10 tweeters in a triangular pattern, and put one huge woofer firing backwards in the center." Then wake up Friday and say, "hmmmmmm, what if I use 1 tweeter on each side of the speaker with 3 woofers on each side and make them quad polar?" Then on the big day, Sunday, wake up and say, "what if I make speakers made from multiple speakers that all have over the top more than enough of everything.?" He's already done the Sunday one.....add more cones and it must be better approach.
Again, I've never heard them either, and I would like to. But the more and more as time goes by, the less interested I become in listening to them. The fire aim draw approach turns me away." I also don't understand his line of products. Pretty much you have to choose based on how the speaker looks because some have similar specs and price. |
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Post by brubacca on May 9, 2017 20:46:07 GMT -5
I don't understand his approach, but for many models he hits an affordable price point and a full range sound. I am very tempted by the Lore, Lore Reference and URUZ, but I have no money. Maybe I'll put some gear up for sale so I can try. If I could get one of these high efficient speakers I wouldn't need my XPA-100 Gen 2 anymore.
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Post by rossonero3 on May 10, 2017 7:14:25 GMT -5
I don't understand his approach, but for many models he hits an affordable price point and a full range sound. I am very tempted by the Lore, Lore Reference and URUZ, but I have no money. Maybe I'll put some gear up for sale so I can try. If I could get one of these high efficient speakers I wouldn't need my XPA-100 Gen 2 anymore. If you wouldn't need your XPA-100 anymore, what are planning to use? |
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