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Post by garbulky on May 12, 2017 15:48:08 GMT -5
I'm not doubting this speaker for a second. Having said that, I would use four XPA-1 gen 2's bi amped for the best control!
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Post by sebastianr on May 12, 2017 16:07:43 GMT -5
I don't know what you guys are talking about! This is a HELL YES! Sweet!!! (Needs more tweeters though)  Needs more cowbell. |
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Post by copperpipe on May 12, 2017 16:10:14 GMT -5
I'm willing to bet there is only 1 tweeter and woofer wired in and the rest are all for show I still had some respect for him when his prices were sane, but he has jumped way into "nuts" territory at this point. Dude couldn't design something attractive to save his life. At < $3000 you can forgive at lot in the looks dept, but I can think of much better speakers to drop that kind of coin on. |
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Post by mfeust on May 12, 2017 16:25:20 GMT -5
His speakers are becoming like cars. Worth more for parts.
Mark
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Post by monkumonku on May 12, 2017 16:32:05 GMT -5
I'm willing to bet there is only 1 tweeter and woofer wired in and the rest are all for show I still had some respect for him when his prices were sane, but he has jumped way into "nuts" territory at this point. Dude couldn't design something attractive to save his life. At < $3000 you can forgive at lot in the looks dept, but I can think of much better speakers to drop that kind of coin on. You mean they are all passive tweeters.  You'd think with all those tweeters in there that he might as well have thrown in MQA and Atmos, too. |
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Post by novisnick on May 12, 2017 17:04:07 GMT -5
Wait a second!
All of those tweeters are copying a classic design of Bose, think 901's but instead of mids they're tweets!
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Post by teaman on May 12, 2017 17:08:18 GMT -5
I'm not doubting this speaker for a second. Having said that, I would use four XPA-1 gen 2's bi amped for the best control! I think before anyone does anything near bi-amping with XPA-1's they need to find out what the hell is going on with a crossover in that mess. I mean, you could amp tweeters with 25 watts and the mids and woofers with 300 watts but it still makes no sense. Unless of course the upper half of each speaker is mirrored on the crossover with the bottom half. You couldn't give me those speakers for free. I think Alexander the great should sit down and think about what he designs next before putting forth something so peculiar and misguided....or maybe, stay focused and offer a handful of designs , then concentrate your efforts there. I agree with the earlier post that it looks like he was using up spare parts and sort of "frankensteined" everything together. |
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Post by garbulky on May 12, 2017 17:27:40 GMT -5
teaman : The only reason I'd worry about the quick turn out of products is for support later on. However, I haven't heard any bad reports about warranty service from Tekton. Having heard the Pendragons, which had what appeared to be a rather bad looking three tweeters right in the center, this guy knows what he's doing. Cuz yeah that huge tweeter array and woofers gelled together and rocked B'zilla's house with some dynamics that I did not hear there before. It looks like Eric is moving on with improved designs - when his previous designs were already quite good. Keep in mind that he is a small enterprise. Not quite the same as a larger mass market company that will ditch the customer in a heart beat when the design goes out of production. Also if you look at his new designs, they aren't exercises in cost cutting. You can tell the new generations of redesigns in some company which are coming out of cost cutting. I think the new gen 3 products are intelligent examples of cost and weight reductions. His designs are getting more ambitious. If this guy was some nobody who is cranking out ridiculous looking speakers without knowing what the heck he is doing, sure I would roll my eyes. But he's not. He was a talented known designer before he started and he's leveraging his speakers and ID tot produce some pretty epic speakers imo. You don't hear reports of his larger more eccentric ideas being a mess in sound quality - likely because they are not. Instead you read reviews of his 1812 speakers (probably the biggest ones he's made) being ridiculously good. His first designs involved much smaller open baffle speakers which also got good reviews. This guy knows what he is doing. It just looks strange because we just don't see these kind of BIG speakers sold at the prices he brings them out. Or really even sold at all. I give the guy props for going there.
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Post by novisnick on May 12, 2017 17:51:17 GMT -5
teaman : The only reason I'd worry about the quick turn out of products is for support later on. However, I haven't heard any bad reports about warranty service from Tekton. Having heard the Pendragons, which had what appeared to be a rather bad looking three tweeters right in the center, this guy knows what he's doing. Cuz yeah that huge tweeter array and woofers gelled together and rocked B'zilla's house with some dynamics that I did not hear there before. It looks like Eric is moving on with improved designs - when his previous designs were already quite good. Keep in mind that he is a small enterprise. Not quite the same as a larger mass market company that will ditch the customer in a heart beat when the design goes out of production. Also if you look at his new designs, they aren't exercises in cost cutting. You can tell the new generations of redesigns in some company which are coming out of cost cutting. I think the new gen 3 products are intelligent examples of cost and weight reductions. His designs are getting more ambitious. If this guy was some nobody who is cranking out ridiculous looking speakers without knowing what the heck he is doing, sure I would roll my eyes. But he's not. He was a talented known designer before he started and he's leveraging his speakers and ID tot produce some pretty epic speakers imo. You don't hear reports of his larger more eccentric ideas being a mess in sound quality - likely because they are not. Instead you read reviews of his 1812 speakers (probably the biggest ones he's made) being ridiculously good. His first designs involved much smaller open baffle speakers which also got good reviews. This guy knows what he is doing. It just looks strange because we just don't see these kind of BIG speakers sold at the prices he brings them out. Or really even sold at all. I give the guy props for going there. I agree in many ways with you! Perhaps if he rolled out a new speaker design every 8 months or so and asked five digits for them everyone wouod calm down,,,,,,,, maybe!  as this is about the norm for many manufacturers. Eyebrow raising? Maybe? But this guy is young and full of energy! I haven't heard of any problems with his products, has anybody? I do know that the Pendragons are a remarkable product and sound lovely, especially at their price point. Quirks? All speakers have their very own, the Dragons should have their tweeters ear level which is normal, the quirk if you want to call it that is that off axis with the tweeters and you know it. YMMV, this is but my opinion with what limited time I've spent with them. Tekton would be on my short list if I were in the market! The VERY hard part would be deciding which speaker to audition/purchase first. |
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Post by mountain on May 12, 2017 18:01:11 GMT -5
Hail to the original Advent Loudspeaker!
(I think I spelled that right)
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Post by gld3gld3 on May 12, 2017 18:20:27 GMT -5
It would be fun to hear what these sound like! Quirks aside, if they sound awesome that's what matters! His Pendragons have gotten great reviews and his Double Impacts seem to be gaining appreciation as well! If his designs work they work! Wish I could listen to some of his new releases. If I had the $$$$ I would try out his Electrons.
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Post by teaman on May 12, 2017 20:41:23 GMT -5
Garbulky, the 1812 set up is actually a new spin on a tried and true design. Carver, Infinity, McIntosh have all created a large tweeter and midrange array with a separate stand alone for the lower end. Going back nearly thirty years I was first taken aback when I auditioned a large McIntosh array with one of the first Yamaha DSP surround processors. With a stack of McIntosh amps in brilliant blue and green I can almost relive the Pink Floyd and Yes songs played for me that nearly took my breath away.
I simply do not understand a double flower of tweeters concentrically aligned where most of them seem to serve little to no purpose. To each his own.
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Post by pedrocols on May 12, 2017 20:42:54 GMT -5
So these new flavor of the week are 12K?...  |
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Post by garbulky on May 12, 2017 22:32:08 GMT -5
"I created Tekton Design 11 years ago to showcase my loudspeaker designs. You need to know that first and foremost, my passion is loudspeaker design and new product development. I’m driven to innovate and create. I’ve been at this passionately for over 30 years now"
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Post by snacker on May 13, 2017 2:37:36 GMT -5
I'd check em out if I had the cash.
I need a larger room.
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Post by Mr Perez on May 13, 2017 3:48:20 GMT -5
Hello Everyone!!
This is my first post in this forum. A friend told me to check it out since Ive actually owned tekton speakers before. I wanted to start by saying, YES, the ULFBERTHT looks like a crazy design......but I wanted to ask the ones bashing and making fun of these speakers ....have you owned tekton's before?I originally owned a pair of Tekton pendragon speakers. Two 10" woofers and 3 vertical tweeters? WTF!!! people said,,,,after searching and listening to many many speakers I decided to give these a try, guess what? They stayed home. I enjoyed these for about a year, until a personal situation forced me to sell them. Short after, I recovered from my situation and I was ready to place an order on another set of Pendrgons, but a friend in california invited me to listen to his new Double Impacts, so I decided to make a 4hr trip and listen to this new creation of Eric. two 10" two 6" and 7 tweeters.........hahaha you gotta be kidding me. I was not expecting to hear what I did, only Eric was able to create a speaker that was able to perform better than the pendragon's for less than $10,000. My friend loved them so much that he wanted to get another pair in an exotic color with a glossy finish , so guess who got a deal on his regular black satin finish? I took those babies and put them in my SUV and drove back home with a huge smile on my face. After setting these up in my house, I do not feel like Im missing on anything. Before I owned tekton I was never satisfied with any speaker, the " normal" home speaker layout was just not enought, some speakers where very musical but a disaster at loud volumes and other where good a loud volumes but not very musical. I like to hear very very LOUD music and very very clean at the same time and It took( like some people will say) a "weird" "crazy" "ridiculous" "non understandable" DIFFERENT design to achieve the sound reproduction that I wanted and spent so much time searching for. Yes....call Eric crazy and make fun of his designs, but make no mistake, that guy is the Albert Einstein of our era in speaker design and time will prove it. If anyone has any questions about the pendragons and DI performance I am more than happy to share a more detail description of their performance.
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Post by garbulky on May 13, 2017 9:45:55 GMT -5
Hello Everyone!! This is my first post in this forum. A friend told me to check it out since Ive actually owned tekton speakers before. I wanted to start by saying, YES, the ULFBERTHT looks like a crazy design......but I wanted to ask the ones bashing and making fun of these speakers ....have you owned tekton's before?I originally owned a pair of Tekton pendragon speakers. Two 10" woofers and 3 vertical tweeters? WTF!!! people said,,,,after searching and listening to many many speakers I decided to give these a try, guess what? They stayed home. I enjoyed these for about a year, until a personal situation forced me to sell them. Short after, I recovered from my situation and I was ready to place an order on another set of Pendrgons, but a friend in california invited me to listen to his new Double Impacts, so I decided to make a 4hr trip and listen to this new creation of Eric. two 10" two 6" and 7 tweeters.........hahaha you gotta be kidding me. I was not expecting to hear what I did, only Eric was able to create a speaker that was able to perform better than the pendragon's for less than $10,000. My friend loved them so much that he wanted to get another pair in an exotic color with a glossy finish , so guess who got a deal on his regular black satin finish? I took those babies and put them in my SUV and drove back home with a huge smile on my face. After setting these up in my house, I do not feel like Im missing on anything. Before I owned tekton I was never satisfied with any speaker, the " normal" home speaker layout was just not enought, some speakers where very musical but a disaster at loud volumes and other where good a loud volumes but not very musical. I like to hear very very LOUD music and very very clean at the same time and It took( like some people will say) a "weird" "crazy" "ridiculous" "non understandable" DIFFERENT design to achieve the sound reproduction that I wanted and spent so much time searching for. Yes....call Eric crazy and make fun of his designs, but make no mistake, that guy is the Albert Einstein of our era in speaker design and time will prove it. If anyone has any questions about the pendragons and DI performance I am more than happy to share a more detail description of their performance. I want to hear more. I'm very interested in the performance of the DI. I like my Axiom's tone but in loudness when you really want to crank it, the Pendragons run rings around the Axiom in terms of ease. Not that the Axiom's doesn't get very loud, simply that the Pendragons beat it in loud clean music.Also interestingly I wasn't thrilled at first by the Pendragon's tweeters in terms of tone. But over a long period of time, strangely it has settled down to be pretty good. |
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Post by pedrocols on May 13, 2017 11:10:56 GMT -5
I don't know about you guys but for me $10,000 on a pair of speakers is a lot of mula unless of course you can drive them to get to work...
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Post by Mr Perez on May 13, 2017 14:16:20 GMT -5
Hello Everyone!! This is my first post in this forum. A friend told me to check it out since Ive actually owned tekton speakers before. I wanted to start by saying, YES, the ULFBERTHT looks like a crazy design......but I wanted to ask the ones bashing and making fun of these speakers ....have you owned tekton's before?I originally owned a pair of Tekton pendragon speakers. Two 10" woofers and 3 vertical tweeters? WTF!!! people said,,,,after searching and listening to many many speakers I decided to give these a try, guess what? They stayed home. I enjoyed these for about a year, until a personal situation forced me to sell them. Short after, I recovered from my situation and I was ready to place an order on another set of Pendrgons, but a friend in california invited me to listen to his new Double Impacts, so I decided to make a 4hr trip and listen to this new creation of Eric. two 10" two 6" and 7 tweeters.........hahaha you gotta be kidding me. I was not expecting to hear what I did, only Eric was able to create a speaker that was able to perform better than the pendragon's for less than $10,000. My friend loved them so much that he wanted to get another pair in an exotic color with a glossy finish , so guess who got a deal on his regular black satin finish? I took those babies and put them in my SUV and drove back home with a huge smile on my face. After setting these up in my house, I do not feel like Im missing on anything. Before I owned tekton I was never satisfied with any speaker, the " normal" home speaker layout was just not enought, some speakers where very musical but a disaster at loud volumes and other where good a loud volumes but not very musical. I like to hear very very LOUD music and very very clean at the same time and It took( like some people will say) a "weird" "crazy" "ridiculous" "non understandable" DIFFERENT design to achieve the sound reproduction that I wanted and spent so much time searching for. Yes....call Eric crazy and make fun of his designs, but make no mistake, that guy is the Albert Einstein of our era in speaker design and time will prove it. If anyone has any questions about the pendragons and DI performance I am more than happy to share a more detail description of their performance. I want to hear more. I'm very interested in the performance of the DI. I like my Axiom's tone but in loudness when you really want to crank it, the Pendragons run rings around the Axiom in terms of ease. Not that the Axiom's doesn't get very loud, simply that the Pendragons beat it in loud clean music.Also interestingly I wasn't thrilled at first by the Pendragon's tweeters in terms of tone. But over a long period of time, strangely it has settled down to be pretty good. Well...the performance of the DI is pretty much similar to the one of the pendragons,same clean, loud live performance you can feel!!!! When I heard the DI I wanted to compare them to the pendragons because the pens were the speaker I was set on getting again. At first the obvious improvement was the midbass,it was solid, something I didn't know I was missing with the pendragons but the DI showed me...let me clarify it was only very noticeable at very loud volume. In my opinion at normal listening volumes it would be hard to notice.After 15 min of listening I started to notice the bass was deeper but not as clean as the pens.after listening in my room the bass was more controlled and sounded very similar to the pens..Ive had the DI for a few months now and I think the highs are bit smoother than the pens. I think with the DI being 1k more expensive than the Pens, you get exactly what you are paying for,an improved version of the Pendragons. I don't think the DI are in a whole different class over the Pendragons but they are for sure a step up and provide better performance.FYI....all these comparisons where made using the speakers in 2ch music listening.If you have the Pendragons for home theater use, I do not recommend upgrading to the DI because in HT I think you get very little if any noticeable improvements. If you use them for double duty...getting a used pair of Pendragons for 1,500 or less is still the way to go IMO. I was just very lucky to get these DI at a discounted price |
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Post by snacker on May 13, 2017 14:37:55 GMT -5
I haven't had the chance to listen to Mr Perez DI yet. Hoping I get the chance someday.
He gave me great deal on his pens!
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as this is about the norm for many manufacturers. Eyebrow raising? Maybe? But this guy is young and full of energy! I haven't heard of any problems with his products, has anybody?
