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Post by junchoon on Apr 26, 2017 19:06:05 GMT -5
In that case just configure it as single channel (DR1M) and be done with it - if not then a DR3M will just be a souped up 3-channel amp.
It is called modular so whatever suits you, or however you wish to define monoblock.
That is all.
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Post by garbulky on Apr 26, 2017 19:35:34 GMT -5
In that case just configure it as single channel (DR1M) and be done with it - if not then a DR3M will just be a souped up 3-channel amp. It is called modular so whatever suits you, or however you wish to define monoblock. That is all. I think all those configurations are quite nice. You want a fully balanced front end including the center - here ya go! There's no denying that these modules and the amp is going to be fantastic! It was just the naming I objected to. It's not the end of the world. It's just a name, but an incorrect one which advertises itself as more than it is. "The new XPA DR3M is a balanced, fully differential monoblock amplifier in a three-channel configuration" It could read as "The new XPA DR3M is a balanced, fully differential amplifier in a three-channel configuration using modules designed for our DR1M monoblock amplifier." |
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Post by brubacca on Apr 26, 2017 19:43:48 GMT -5
I think that we give Big Dan grey hair.
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Post by junchoon on Apr 26, 2017 19:54:13 GMT -5
maybe something like this will be better? A modular design that allows u to have kick-behind monoblock config to really souped up (with Korean ginseng thrown in) 3 channels amp?  |
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Post by brutiarti on Apr 26, 2017 20:01:40 GMT -5
Regardless of the terminology used, the market for monoblocks is a niche one. Going for a classic approach of the description will be a better idea as the potential costumers can feel mislead even tough probably they are not.
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Post by garbulky on Apr 26, 2017 21:19:47 GMT -5
maybe something like this will be better? A modular design that allows u to have kick-behind monoblock config to really souped up (with Korean ginseng thrown in) 3 channels amp? Lol, I can actually get behind this one. Sorry for being such a stick in the mud. I really shouldn't have gone on and on. |
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Post by leonski on May 16, 2017 13:31:32 GMT -5
Will the new amp require a 20 amp service?
3 @600 watts is a lot of power, exceeding a 15 amp service continuous rating.
Crosstalk between channels is a red herring issue. Sure, when pressed, the 3 channels can cross-modulate. But this happens at the very
highest powers and should never be an issue in real life. Even @50 continueous watts with 500 watt peaks, you'll never HEAR it.
I'd be more concerned with dragging down a 15amp lines voltage when pushing the amp under the above conditions.
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Post by repeetavx on May 16, 2017 16:40:40 GMT -5
It's like...."are you married or are you living together?" They are not the same although many might disagree and use the terms interchangeably!!  Yes, but one usually has all, if not more, of the upside, while usually less of the downside. |
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Post by roadwar on Jun 2, 2017 11:49:18 GMT -5
 Sigh. No mention at all of the fabled 600 watt double wide module amps in the June 2 podcast.
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Post by garbulky on Jun 2, 2017 12:07:47 GMT -5
Will the new amp require a 20 amp service? 3 @600 watts is a lot of power, exceeding a 15 amp service continuous rating. Crosstalk between channels is a red herring issue. Sure, when pressed, the 3 channels can cross-modulate. But this happens at the very highest powers and should never be an issue in real life. Even @50 continueous watts with 500 watt peaks, you'll never HEAR it. I'd be more concerned with dragging down a 15amp lines voltage when pushing the amp under the above conditions. Well I don't know what it is but directly comparing the XPA-1 gen 2 and the XPA-2 gen 2....I find the XPA-1 gen 2 to be slightly more coherent in the soundstage. Now granted it's not just the lack of cross talk but TWICE the power supplies and control. But it has something that other stereo amps don't. |
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Post by Loop 7 on Jun 2, 2017 13:38:18 GMT -5
Sounds cool but I'm sure happy I bought my XPR-1's when I did. I don't own any XPR-2's but I think they were the pinnacle of Emotiva's industrial design. Just gorgeous looking amps. |
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Post by KeithL on Jun 2, 2017 14:20:52 GMT -5
Yes, they ARE still on the way, and will be here shortly. Also, for monoblock fans, note that you will be able to put one, two, or three of these in a chassis. So, IF YOU BUY TWO CHASSIS, AND PUT ONE 600 WATT MODULE IN EACH, THEN YOU'LL HAVE A PAIR OF MONOBLOCKS. Sigh. No mention at all of the fabled 600 watt double wide module amps in the June 2 podcast. |
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Post by Jim on Jun 2, 2017 15:27:35 GMT -5
Yes, they ARE still on the way, and will be here shortly. Also, for monoblock fans, note that you will be able to put one, two, or three of these in a chassis. So, IF YOU BUY TWO CHASSIS, AND PUT ONE 600 WATT MODULE IN EACH, THEN YOU'LL HAVE A PAIR OF MONOBLOCKS. Sigh. No mention at all of the fabled 600 watt double wide module amps in the June 2 podcast. How are they monoblocks if they share the same power supply, again? It sounds a lot like a 1 2 or 3 channel amp. |
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Post by klinemj on Jun 2, 2017 16:06:30 GMT -5
Yes, they ARE still on the way, and will be here shortly. Also, for monoblock fans, note that you will be able to put one, two, or three of these in a chassis. So, IF YOU BUY TWO CHASSIS, AND PUT ONE 600 WATT MODULE IN EACH, THEN YOU'LL HAVE A PAIR OF MONOBLOCKS. How are they monoblocks if they share the same power supply, again? It sounds a lot like a 1 2 or 3 channel amp. Well, if you have 1 of the blades in 1 chassis, that is clearly a monoblock. If you put 2 into 1 chassis and 2 into another, and use each "block/chassis" to power 1 speaker (bi-amped), I guess that could be called a monoblock bi-amped setup. And if 3 per chassis and 1 chassis per speaker...then "monoblock tri-amped setup". But, as soon as you have 1 chassis feeding >1 speaker...that's not a monoblock to me. Mark |
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Post by novisnick on Jun 2, 2017 16:11:28 GMT -5
How are they monoblocks if they share the same power supply, again? It sounds a lot like a 1 2 or 3 channel amp. Well, if you have 1 of the blades in 1 chassis, that is clearly a monoblock. If you put 2 into 1 chassis and 2 into another, and use each "block/chassis" to power 1 speaker (bi-amped), I guess that could be called a monoblock bi-amped setup. And if 3 per chassis and 1 chassis per speaker...then "monoblock tri-amped setup". But, as soon as you have 1 chassis feeding >1 speaker...that's not a monoblock to me. Mark
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Post by leonski on Jun 2, 2017 16:15:29 GMT -5
Proud and wrong.
3 mono amps in one chassis is a 3-channel amp.
2 mono amps is what we used to call 'stereo'.
Are my 2 x 2 channel stereo amps, one behind EACH speaker now to be considered some version of mono block?
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Post by novisnick on Jun 2, 2017 16:34:20 GMT -5
Sounds cool but I'm sure happy I bought my XPR-1's when I did. Nick I think the monoblock society needs to meet privately about this...😎 I have NO idea What you're talking about!  |
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Post by Axis on Jun 2, 2017 16:40:18 GMT -5
Mono 1. one; alone; single. •with an extreme, singular character to the point of dominance or exclusion. Technically monoblocks are one power supply and one channel. Each channel module is a mono channel and used with a single chassis power supply is a monoblock. If you use more than one of the mono channel modules with the same single chassis power supply then novisnick will not let you be a member of his Monoblock society. I say screw Nick and load your chassis with three 600 watt mono channel modules and feed three power hungry speakers with it. Tell everyone you have a space saving single chassis amplifier that has three powerful 600 watt channels that rocks and call it a XPA Modular Power Amplifier. |
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Post by novisnick on Jun 2, 2017 16:54:31 GMT -5
Mono 1. one; alone; single. •with an extreme, singular character to the point of dominance or exclusion. Technically monoblocks are one power supply and one channel. Each channel module is a mono channel and used with a single chassis power supply is a monoblock. If you use more than one of the mono channel modules with the same single chassis power supply then novisnick will not let you be a member of his Monoblock society. I say screw Nick and load your chassis with three 600 watt mono channel modules and feed three power hungry speakers with it. Tell everyone you have a space saving single chassis amplifier that has three powerful 600 watt channels that rocks and call it a XPA Modular Power Amplifier. Rules be da rules! As voted on by " The Society "
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Sigh. No mention at all of the fabled 600 watt double wide module amps in the June 2 podcast. 
