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Post by malba2366 on Mar 27, 2018 12:37:08 GMT -5
Based on this, I guess I’ll be waiting a while. I don’t mind waiting though - being that it’s almost April. Expecting it to be released in 2018 may be a long shot. If so, I may as wait until HDMI 2.1 is available for this unit. 😊 LOL...you'll be waiting a while. Marantz has promised a HDMI 2.1 update for their new processor, and they don't anticipate being able to provide that until 2020. |
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Post by tailsawaggin on Mar 27, 2018 15:50:29 GMT -5
I don't know if this will help quell the fire or just pour more fuel on it, but when I called last week to check the warranty status on my UMC, word was that the XMC-1 would be available for sale at the end of April or beginning of May.
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Post by richb on Mar 27, 2018 15:51:16 GMT -5
I don't know if this will help quell the fire or just pour more fuel on it, but when I called last week to check the warranty status on my UMC, word was that the XMC-1 would be available for sale at the end of April or beginning of May. Which gen? - Rich |
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Post by tailsawaggin on Mar 27, 2018 15:53:47 GMT -5
Said RMC-1 and XMC-1 both at that time, so I inferred Gen 3.
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Post by Lsc on Mar 28, 2018 10:11:40 GMT -5
Based on this, I guess I’ll be waiting a while. I don’t mind waiting though - being that it’s almost April. Expecting it to be released in 2018 may be a long shot. If so, I may as wait until HDMI 2.1 is available for this unit. 😊 LOL...you'll be waiting a while. Marantz has promised a HDMI 2.1 update for their new processor, and they don't anticipate being able to provide that until 2020. Haha. Well maybe I won’t wait that long then. Then my backup plan is to stay with 2.0 for a while 😊. |
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Post by Lsc on Mar 28, 2018 10:12:50 GMT -5
I don't know if this will help quell the fire or just pour more fuel on it, but when I called last week to check the warranty status on my UMC, word was that the XMC-1 would be available for sale at the end of April or beginning of May. Did they confirm that they were talking about 2018? 😬 |
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Post by enricoclaudio on Mar 28, 2018 23:17:46 GMT -5
Big Dan just posted an update on the V3 HDMI Board thread. Looks like we will be getting the boards in just a couple of weeks.
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Post by jhurst on Apr 1, 2018 3:46:12 GMT -5
I am curious as to what a person who bought 1 of these would use as a 7.1 analog input which it seems they would have to believe provided a better sound than the dac in the xmc? Per my post above, someone who spent the extra coin to buy an Oppo 95, 105 or 205. That's potentially a lot of people. I find it interesting that this feature has mostly been considered a higher end thing that only expensive receivers and processors possess. When it was in a lower priced model, those models were highly praised. It's been this way for as many years as I can remember. Now here on the Emotiva forum in the last 2+ years it's become deemed unnecessary. Well, not for me. IMO, its more inexpensive products like the MC-700 and the yet to come Emersa Processor that should lack connections, as their price point reflects. But when you start using words like "flagship" and "high end" and "monster" and things start costing $2500+, they better deliver those goods. For me that means connecting the kitchen sink so to speak. What's next 3 years from now, a $7500 flagship processor that only has 12 HDMI inputs? Maybe, but I won't be buying it. I spoke with oppo regarding this very question on my xmc 1 and oppo 105. Should I run digital outs, analog outs , hdmi, all, combo of 2, etc. they said hdmi ONLY. That’s best quality with these 2. |
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Post by pachieh on Apr 7, 2018 12:35:35 GMT -5
Axpona starts this week.. Chances we'll get some detailed specs on Gen 3?
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Post by pachieh on Apr 17, 2018 18:14:25 GMT -5
Emo team? Looks like v3 boards are shipping very soon, Gen 3 was on display at Axpona, any updates on specs and estimated ship date?
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Post by Gary Cook on Apr 17, 2018 18:21:07 GMT -5
Emo team? Looks like v3 boards are shipping very soon, Gen 3 was on display at Axpona, any updates on specs and estimated ship date? From the now closed Expona thread, "summer" was mentioned for the XMC-1 Gen 3, in the northern hemisphere that's June to September. Cheers Gary |
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Post by Gary Cook on Apr 17, 2018 18:25:07 GMT -5
Emo team? Looks like v3 boards are shipping very soon, Gen 3 was on display at Axpona, any updates on specs and estimated ship date? From the closed and then reopened Expona thread, "fall/winter" was mentioned for the XMC-1 Gen 3. Cheers Gary |
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Post by edrummereasye on Apr 17, 2018 19:21:00 GMT -5
Emo team? Looks like v3 boards are shipping very soon, Gen 3 was on display at Axpona, any updates on specs and estimated ship date? From the closed and then reopened Expona thread, "fall/winter" was mentioned for the XMC-1 Gen 3. Cheers Gary Wait, what the hell is an XMR-1? I thought that was like a long-discarded name for the RMC-1....  |
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Post by richb on Apr 17, 2018 19:26:00 GMT -5
From the closed and then reopened Expona thread, "fall/winter" was mentioned for the XMC-1 Gen 3. Cheers Gary Wait, what the hell is an XMR-1? I thought that was like a long-discarded name for the RMC-1.... Using Spock's colorful metaphors, it the hell is a receiver with 200 WPC Pascal amp modules. Google it. - Rich |
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Post by Gary Cook on Apr 17, 2018 19:27:19 GMT -5
Wait, what the hell is an XMR-1? I thought that was like a long-discarded name for the RMC-1.... R = Receiver Cheers Gary |
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Post by Lsc on Apr 18, 2018 21:23:36 GMT -5
From the closed and then reopened Expona thread, "fall/winter" was mentioned for the XMC-1 Gen 3. Cheers Gary Wait, what the hell is an XMR-1? I thought that was like a long-discarded name for the RMC-1.... It was but they repurposed the name. Makes sense since they registered it. The 200 watts appear to be 200 watts into 4 channels. |
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Post by ronkuper on Apr 30, 2018 12:28:40 GMT -5
As a sidebar, it seems some of this thread is a creative way to grind the proverbial axe under the guise of an XMC-1 "discussion" This not coming from an Emo fan-boy, just not the way I would handle personal disagreements with a manufacturer. Understood, and I agree that's what it's become in short order. Mainly because I seem to be the only one that's up for discussion today. I was and am still hoping for more. I guess we'll see. My intent was't / isn't / hasn't ever been to beat Emotiva down and totally bash what they make (they make some great bang for the buck products for sure), but to voice my disappointments, what I'd like to see changed, the reasonings why, and then hope my comments lead to products that get produced with things I'm looking for (and others too). I do not have a lemming sort of personality - I don't follow along just because. I'm willing to "fight" for what I want or believe in. (Not to sound more important important than I am, but without me and about 5 others getting a bit rough, Emotiva was never going to upgrade the XMC-1 Gen 2 for Atmos). That's something Emotiva allows us to do here that goes above and beyond the normal electronics companies, and whether it shows or not, I do appreciate it. It's a big reason to be here. I only wish I was a better writer to help get my points across in a more....more.....let's just say better manner. That's my bad. I've voiced my inputs/outputs issues enough. I'll leave it be unless someone wants more.  Thanks for calling me out so politely. I'm only sick of the Emotiva processor Merry-Go-Round. Believe it or not, there are plenty of people and discussions here I respect, enjoy, and learn from. You are most certainly on that list. Hi Bonzo, Just started to read the thread and thought I'd risk a quote to this early post before finishing the other 18 pages My message - +1 on your position, e.g. one room, one system for music and A/V. My use case: 1. All media from HTPC directly connected to a UMC-200, the PC running Roon (audio) and JRiver (video). Also casually browsing the web sometimes while listening to music  1.5 PS4 Pro is also connected to the UMC-200 2. UMC-200 is connected to an XPA-5 3. Being a firm supporter of the Speakers > Room > Electronics camp (re: Importance for Sound Quality) I allocated most of my budget at the time for the front speakers and Sub. Any money saved on future electronics upgrades will also probably go to the next speakers upgrade. 4. I manage everything in software so that I'm not limited to the hardware: Decoding (JRiver, Roon), Room Correction (Dirac Live), Bass Management (JRiver, Roon, lately EqualizerAPO with VoiceMeeter). For me having a consolidated entertainment system worked very well, the functional convenience trumped the theoretical sonic benefit of "not having the TV next to the system" kind of arguments... Digital Room Correction with Sub integration trumped the theoretical sonic benefit of a better stereo DAC (I tried several) and the cost saving for not buying redundant electronics allowed me to buy more *functional* audio stuff like a nice head-fi setup and another system in the bedroom. If money was no object I would invested in a dedicated treated room, but would still want every form of media available on the same system and would still prefer PC software over closed form DSP+Software from vendors. Where our views diverge is with inputs... I would actually like the unit to be as small as possible, taking advantage of my consolidated "source" strategy Would love to have a unit like the UMC-200, but with DACs and analog stages quality of the big boys. Would love it even better if in addition to HDMI it had a multi-channel USB input to get the audio from the PC with less Jitter than HDMI. Would convert my religion if all the savings from license fees (Dirac, Dolby, etc) for stuff I already own independently and perpetually (think - why pay for them with each processor upgrade?) would translate into substantial cost savings. Multi-channel analog inputs (like the UMC-200) is a plus since it leaves room to connect a different multi-channel DAC/Player. Hope the world would listen ^_^ (I would even be cocky and say that I believe this is the inevitable future. Who needs a closed DSP when CPUs + Software these days give us all we need and more) |
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Post by andyman on Apr 30, 2018 21:52:59 GMT -5
Whada ya think Bozno ? 😂
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Post by Chris on May 5, 2018 11:11:17 GMT -5
Hi,
I haven't been following all the updates on future XMC-1 and update boards. I do know that the update boards are late and still in the works. I also see that there are new versions of the XMC-1 in the works (Gen3?). Since I use my XMC-1 everyday, it would be a hardship to send it back to Emotiva for an update. Also, since I went to 4K close to two years ago, I have made my workarounds and don't route video through my XMC-1 anymore. While I thought I would install the 4k update board when it was available, I am losing interest due possible cost and long development time.
I wonder if a better strategy for Emotiva at this point is to finalize and start producing the XMC-1 Gen3 or whatever it is called and then offer a trade in deal to existing XMC-1 owners to swap out their unit? Emotiva could retrofit the traded in XMC-1 to Gen2 or Gen 3 status and sell as B-Stock of even new if that's allowed? If Emotiva could offer a swap plus maybe $1k paid by the owner I think it could be successful? Maybe a dumb idea?
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Post by graphic on May 5, 2018 11:31:28 GMT -5
That is a great idea!
Gets the new Gen 3 in circulation, and Emo can upgrade the ‘trade-ins’ more or less at their leisure!
Likely producing Gen 3s is more efficient and can be pushed out quicker than the time and effort needed to update incoming Current machines.
Excelsior!
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Thanks for calling me out so politely.
