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Post by enricoclaudio on Feb 3, 2018 1:10:16 GMT -5
Nothing more secure than BNC connectors. Unfortunately bandwidth is not enough for 4K at 4:4:4/60p not even using dual 6G-SDI (12G-SDI). Another option is to use HDMI cables with locking screws. Those are not for commercial applications, though. I have seen those only when purchase Extron and Gefen HDMI switchers and extenders.
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Post by Casey Leedom on Feb 3, 2018 1:21:10 GMT -5
Yeah, I once suggested that Emotiva develop or resale an HDMI Cable "Lock" and put in matching Machined Screw Holes above each of their HDMI ports. I still think this would be a winning idea.
Casey
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Post by Gary Cook on Feb 3, 2018 2:28:12 GMT -5
I just don't understand why some people have an issue with HDMI connectors, I've never had problem. In fact I don't know anyone personally who has, and I know a whole lot of people with HDMI connections.
Cheers Gary
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Post by Nemesis.ie on Feb 3, 2018 5:42:22 GMT -5
That looks lovely Dan. Although grammatically, I think "OSD transparency" would be correct versus "OSD transparent"? (The latter also sounds a bit like that TV series). Something for the beta testers to check.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Feb 3, 2018 8:53:39 GMT -5
I just don't understand why some people have an issue with HDMI connectors, I've never had problem. In fact I don't know anyone personally who has, and I know a whole lot of people with HDMI connections. Cheers Gary I’ve broken a couple HDMI connectors, but they were older long cables that were very thick and heavy, just moving your gear with one of them connected could snap a connector. The ‘secure’ connector that Casey Leedom mentions would solve this. I’ve also used active cables which are much lighter, I wonder if they might be a solution for some of the very high speed (ultra) cable needs?
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Post by Casey Leedom on Feb 3, 2018 10:59:37 GMT -5
I work with 10Gb/s (SFP+), 25Gb/s (SFP28), 40Gb/s (QSFP+), and 100Gb/s (QSFP28) High-Speed Ethernet and if our connectors were as horrible as the HDMI ones we’d be in crisis continually. And the problem is that HDMI is dealing with about the same data rates. The HDMI connectors were designed by morons.
Casey
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Post by wilburthegoose on Feb 3, 2018 11:00:51 GMT -5
^^^^ +1000
We need HDMI over ethernet!
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Post by garbulky on Feb 3, 2018 11:24:43 GMT -5
I just don't understand why some people have an issue with HDMI connectors, I've never had problem. In fact I don't know anyone personally who has, and I know a whole lot of people with HDMI connections. Cheers Gary I don't understand the whole HDMI connector issue either. I would be more wary of a locking connector personally. I prefer that if something is going to come out that it will come out rather than tug on the wire.
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Post by cawgijoe on Feb 3, 2018 13:55:31 GMT -5
I’ve had zero problems with HDMI cables.
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Post by jnelsonyoung on Feb 3, 2018 14:48:50 GMT -5
Anyone remember s-video? Now that was a pita. Never had a problem with hdmi, even the cheapo monoprice takes.
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Post by wilburthegoose on Feb 3, 2018 16:12:06 GMT -5
I had a Monoprice HDMI cable from my Oppo Blu Ray player get stuck in my XMC-1. I needed needle nosed pliers to get it out.
Monoprice makes great cables - I blame the concept more than the cable.
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Post by broncsrule21 on Feb 3, 2018 22:12:29 GMT -5
I haven't had problems with the connecter....but I have had handshake issues....mainly with the Fusion 8100....
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Post by ausman on Feb 3, 2018 22:46:24 GMT -5
Dan does this new board have HDR support on pass through??
I'm annoyed with companies stocking your products in Australia bloody markup
I pretty much think in time we will either go to 10gb ethernet as transport or fiber optic as the applicable medium for audio and video as I think and know that we are at the limits of a copper based transport medium if we want medium pushing 10gb I believe we have stretched the boundaries of what a cat-6a cable can do over a short distance I can see a shift to fiber optic transports before long because we are at the limit 10gb ethernet on 4k, with 8k-16 k becoming relevant within the next 10-15 years I suspect we can see conversion happening at some point within the future because we are already at the stage the 10gb is bottle necking the data limits..
4k as a faux dvd standard works 4k as brd standard becomes a bottle of service requirement given you start looking at 2.5gb as minimum spec on data transport to between 7.5-10gb data throughput..
base min of 4kdvd 100mb-2.5gb depending on disc content..
4kbrd 1gb-2.5gb depending on disc content
to be honest I've been waiting to see when the migration will start to a new connection format for data use, because i know that HDMI had been at its data limits for quite sometime now and i know 10gb ethernet is at its limits aswell..
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Post by socketman on Feb 3, 2018 23:00:03 GMT -5
Dan have any changes been made to the the code or the board as far as ARC is concerned. At the moment my ARC works flawlessly and i would really hate for that to change
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Post by Gary Cook on Feb 4, 2018 1:23:49 GMT -5
Dan does this new board have HDR support on pass through?? Yes Aren't we all Re HDMI data transfer - I make no claims to being a a date transfer expert, but from what I have seen the HDMI 2.1 specification (ie; Ultra High Speed) supports 48 Gbit/s. Which from what my simple maths tells me means that it's capable of up to 10K at 120 Hz. That seems fast enough for me for quite some time. Or am I missing something? Cheers Gary
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Post by mcg on Feb 4, 2018 3:34:55 GMT -5
I live in Calgary. Will the facility here have the new boards in stock and ready to install when the time comes? Or should I order and ship it and install it myself?
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Post by cwt on Feb 4, 2018 4:49:25 GMT -5
I’ve broken a couple HDMI connectors, but they were older long cables that were very thick and heavy, just moving your gear with one of them connected could snap a connector. The ‘secure’ connector that Casey Leedom mentions would solve this. I’ve also used active cables which are much lighter, I wonder if they might be a solution for some of the very high speed (ultra) cable needs? Its understandable ; dexterity sometimes isn't enough when you have how many tiny pins to bend ? " There are 19 pins, with bandwidth to carry all SDTV, EDTV, HDTV, UHD, and 4K modes"' Something like fibre optic is the best available now and isn't a heavy awg like hdmi2.1 requires ;this one handles 4k'60p no worries -
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Post by ausman on Feb 4, 2018 9:46:24 GMT -5
theory of maximum is a dicey subject, claims vs reality is 2 different things unless there is more copper in the cable the last spec update which I believe uses cat6a density which the last i checked had a max distance of 65 meters or less to provide 10gb at original specification..
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Post by socketman on Feb 4, 2018 15:34:54 GMT -5
Redmere cables, they never pull out , flexible and lite.
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Post by solidstate on Feb 4, 2018 17:28:38 GMT -5
I think e-arc is part of HDMI spec 2.1, no? Both source an TV will have be 2.1 compliant. E-arc is backwards compatible but the new HDMI cable will be called Ultra high speed. No more lip synch issues! Yeah!! Any HDMI cable that has the ethernet pair can do eARC as it uses those pins.
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