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Post by meldhache on Mar 19, 2019 19:00:51 GMT -5
Got my RMA for my unit for the loopback errors in Calgary Canada nice.
Thanks for the info doc
Mel
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Post by Gary Cook on Mar 21, 2019 0:53:48 GMT -5
I ordered the Denon X6500H and it should arrive by Thursday. I'll be feeding the XMC-1 Multichannel 7.1 analog inputs with the Denon 7.1 pre outs so I can run the Denon for 7.1.4 ATMOS and the XMC-1 for music. I won't be doing the ATMOS upgrade so I can keep my XMC-1 free of new bugs and still enjoying Dolby PLIIx Music mode which I like better than Dolby Surround up mixer. Maybe I'm missing something but doesn't that mean a digital to analogue conversion (in the X6500H), then an analogue to digital conversion (in the XMC-1) and then another digital to analogue conversion (also in the XMC-1)? Cheers Gary |
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Post by doc1963 on Mar 21, 2019 2:04:49 GMT -5
I ordered the Denon X6500H and it should arrive by Thursday. I'll be feeding the XMC-1 Multichannel 7.1 analog inputs with the Denon 7.1 pre outs so I can run the Denon for 7.1.4 ATMOS and the XMC-1 for music. I won't be doing the ATMOS upgrade so I can keep my XMC-1 free of new bugs and still enjoying Dolby PLIIx Music mode which I like better than Dolby Surround up mixer. Maybe I'm missing something but doesn't that mean a digital to analogue conversion (in the X6500H), then an analogue to digital conversion (in the XMC-1) and then another digital to analogue conversion (also in the XMC-1)? Cheers Gary Nope... the 7.1 analog input path of the XMC-1 bypasses all digital stages and remains in the analog domain straight through to the volume control...  |
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Post by Gary Cook on Mar 21, 2019 3:32:55 GMT -5
Maybe I'm missing something but doesn't that mean a digital to analogue conversion (in the X6500H), then an analogue to digital conversion (in the XMC-1) and then another digital to analogue conversion (also in the XMC-1)? Nope... the 7.1 analog input path of the XMC-1 bypasses all digital stages and remains in the analog domain straight through to the volume control... Yes, but he wants too use Dolby PLIIx Music mode which requires a digital signal to manipulate. Cheers Gary |
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Post by cwt on Mar 21, 2019 6:27:48 GMT -5
Nope... the 7.1 analog input path of the XMC-1 bypasses all digital stages and remains in the analog domain straight through to the volume control... Yes, but he wants too use Dolby PLIIx Music mode which requires a digital signal to manipulate. Cheers Gary Enrico will just plug his bluesound streamer into a digital input on the XMC1 and switch from the multi analogue input I imagine Gary |
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Post by doc1963 on Mar 21, 2019 6:55:44 GMT -5
Nope... the 7.1 analog input path of the XMC-1 bypasses all digital stages and remains in the analog domain straight through to the volume control... Yes, but he wants too use Dolby PLIIx Music mode which requires a digital signal to manipulate. Cheers Gary His plan is to use the Denon for HT (Atmos) and the XMC-1 for music. While watching movies, he’ll be using the XMC-1 in a pseudo “pass-through” mode by using the 7.1 analog inputs. Because he prefers Dirac, and likes to use the PLIix Music mode, he’ll use the XMC-1 for “music”. All he’ll need to do is to determine what volume level on the XMC-1 achieves unity gain with the Denon. |
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Post by enricoclaudio on Mar 21, 2019 11:13:48 GMT -5
Yes, but he wants too use Dolby PLIIx Music mode which requires a digital signal to manipulate. Cheers Gary His plan is to use the Denon for HT (Atmos) and the XMC-1 for music. While watching movies, he’ll be using the XMC-1 in a pseudo “pass-through” mode by using the 7.1 analog inputs. Because he prefers Dirac, and likes to use the PLIix Music mode, he’ll use the XMC-1 for “music”. All he’ll need to do is to determine what volume level on the XMC-1 achieves unity gain with the Denon. That is CORRECT!! When running dual receivers/processors, in my case I need to run Audyssey first using the pre outs directly to my external amps to get the system calibrated at 75dB. Then I send the 7.1 pre outs of the Denon to the 7.1 Analog Multichannel input on the XMC-1 and with the speaker trims from Preset 2 and main volume I would get unity gain at 75dB playing the same test tone from the Denon. There is no AD/DA conversion on the XMC-1 as the Multichannel analog input bypass all the processing. I'm getting the Denon tomorrow. I will post my findings during the weekend. |
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Post by enricoclaudio on Mar 21, 2019 11:17:23 GMT -5
Nope... the 7.1 analog input path of the XMC-1 bypasses all digital stages and remains in the analog domain straight through to the volume control... Yes, but he wants too use Dolby PLIIx Music mode which requires a digital signal to manipulate. Cheers Gary Gary, the Node 2 will be plugged into the XMC-1 only via Analog Input 1. When listening to music with the XMC-1, the Denon will be totally OFF. Basically I'll be using the XMC-1 Multichannel Analog input as a HTBypass the same way I was using the Parasound Halo P5 HTBypass with my old Marantz SR7008. |
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Post by enricoclaudio on Mar 23, 2019 17:21:43 GMT -5
Looking great and sounding even better!! Ran Audyssey and the Denon X6500 sounds really good, better than I thought it will. Still like the XMC-1 with Dirac better for music, though. Waiting for a HDfury Integral 2 to arrive to share my LG 4K HDR monitor with the two processors but everything else is done. I had to set the XMC-1 master volume at -20dB, Preset 2 speaker trims at +5dB for speakers and +3dB for subwoofer and Analog 7.1 trim to +9dB to match the calibration settings I got after Audyssey with the Denon X6500 plugged directly into the Emotiva amps. I haven't played any loud content but at moderate volume there is no clipping or distortion that I can hear coming out of the speakers. I was kinda worried because when you pass to the positive side of trims, you usually get clipping but not in my case.   |
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Post by garbulky on Mar 23, 2019 17:33:33 GMT -5
Looking great and sounding even better!! Ran Audyssey and the Denon X6500 sounds really good, better than I thought it will. Still like the XMC-1 with Dirac better for music, though. Waiting for a HDfury Integral 2 to arrive to share my LG 4K HDR monitor with the two processors but everything else is done. I had to set the XMC-1 master volume at -20dB, Preset 2 speaker trims at +5dB for speakers and +3dB for subwoofer and Analog 7.1 trim to +9dB to match the calibration settings I got after Audyssey with the Denon X6500 plugged directly into the Emotiva amps. I haven't played any loud content but at moderate volume there is no clipping or distortion that I can hear coming out of the speakers. I was kinda worried because when you pass to the positive side of trims, you usually get clipping but not in my case. View AttachmentView Attachment You got enough wires there buddy?  |
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Post by ÈlTwo on Mar 23, 2019 21:25:56 GMT -5
I want to see your wiring diagram.
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Post by enricoclaudio on Mar 24, 2019 9:33:20 GMT -5
I want to see your wiring diagram. Between the XMC-1 and the X6500 or the whole AV rack? I hope it’s only between the XMC-1 and X6500  |
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Post by ÈlTwo on Mar 24, 2019 11:24:20 GMT -5
I want to see your wiring diagram. Between the XMC-1 and the X6500 or the whole AV rack? I hope it’s only between the XMC-1 and X6500 Between the XMC-1 and the X6500, I don't think there are enough colors to color code every wire.  |
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Post by enricoclaudio on Mar 24, 2019 19:56:26 GMT -5
Between the XMC-1 and the X6500 or the whole AV rack? I hope it’s only between the XMC-1 and X6500 Between the XMC-1 and the X6500, I don't think there are enough colors to color code every wire. Here you go!! Speaker Layout:  Wiring diagram:  |
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Post by ttocs on Mar 24, 2019 20:08:34 GMT -5
^^^^
That diagram doesn't look like the photo. Maybe if you draw it to scale . . . .
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Post by ÈlTwo on Mar 24, 2019 22:49:38 GMT -5
I'm impressed.
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Post by enricoclaudio on Mar 26, 2019 18:09:02 GMT -5
Does anyone with V3 HDMI board upgrade has success with a HDFury Vertex or Integral 2? I got an Integral 2 to share my LG 4K HDR monitor with the Denon X6500 and he XMC-1 and everything works great with the Denon X6500H but with the XMC-1 I get black screens when selecting 4K sources like ATV 4K and Sony X700 blue ray player. Only Xfinity DVR works which is 1080p/60Hz. With the Denon the Integral 2 works great with any kind of source.
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Post by richb on Mar 26, 2019 19:58:53 GMT -5
Does anyone with V3 HDMI board upgrade has success with a HDFury Vertex or Integral 2? I got an Integral 2 to share my LG 4K HDR monitor with the Denon X6500 and he XMC-1 and everything works great with the Denon X6500H but with the XMC-1 I get black screens when selecting 4K sources like ATV 4K and Sony X700 blue ray player. Only Xfinity DVR works which is 1080p/60Hz. With the Denon the Integral 2 works great with any kind of source. I have this configuration: Oppo UDP-205 -> Vertex -> XMC-1 -> C7 I use it to override HDR10 static metadata to have better control of tone-mapping. The Vertex/Integral2 have lots of settings. You might try posting the connection path including cables and attach an export of the configuration. - Rich |
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Post by enricoclaudio on Mar 26, 2019 21:01:52 GMT -5
Does anyone with V3 HDMI board upgrade has success with a HDFury Vertex or Integral 2? I got an Integral 2 to share my LG 4K HDR monitor with the Denon X6500 and he XMC-1 and everything works great with the Denon X6500H but with the XMC-1 I get black screens when selecting 4K sources like ATV 4K and Sony X700 blue ray player. Only Xfinity DVR works which is 1080p/60Hz. With the Denon the Integral 2 works great with any kind of source. I have this configuration: Oppo UDP-205 -> Vertex -> XMC-1 -> C7 I use it to override HDR10 static metadata to have better control of tone-mapping. The Vertex/Integral2 have lots of settings. You might try posting the connection path including cables and attach an export of the configuration. - Rich Hi Rich, Here is my wiring diagram but I think I found a simple solution which consist in connecting the X6500H HDMI OUT 2 into the XMC-1 HDMI 5 input. That way I can select Analog 7.1 input with HDMI 5 Video and it works perfectly. I already asked Monoprice to process the the return. To be honest, I don't need the X6500H to be sending output to the LG monitor. I just wanted to have both processors sharing both displays but with the solution I found after the Integral 2 failed, it does what I was looking for. I would use the LG monitor with the Denon only during calibration, REW or diagnostics. Here with the Integral 2  Here with No Integral 2  |
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Post by richb on Mar 27, 2019 8:37:02 GMT -5
I have this configuration: Oppo UDP-205 -> Vertex -> XMC-1 -> C7 I use it to override HDR10 static metadata to have better control of tone-mapping. The Vertex/Integral2 have lots of settings. You might try posting the connection path including cables and attach an export of the configuration. - Rich Hi Rich, Here is my wiring diagram but I think I found a simple solution which consist in connecting the X6500H HDMI OUT 2 into the XMC-1 HDMI 5 input. That way I can select Analog 7.1 input with HDMI 5 Video and it works perfectly. I already asked Monoprice to process the the return. To be honest, I don't need the X6500H to be sending output to the LG monitor. I just wanted to have both processors sharing both displays but with the solution I found after the Integral 2 failed, it does what I was looking for. I would use the LG monitor with the Denon only during calibration, REW or diagnostics. Here with the Integral 2 View AttachmentHere with No Integral 2 View AttachmentI think you made the right move to return the Intergral2. There is no simple way to diagnose this type of problem. In past firmware, I have had failed handshakes (no image) with the Vertex2 feeding and XMC-1 input. Since these did not occur with the Vertex removed, I did not think it was worth pursuing. - Rich |
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