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Post by krauley on Jun 30, 2018 17:30:34 GMT -5
I also get a “reddish” OSD over a Dolby Vision signal. This has never changed for me and, since others have mentioned it, I would assume that it’s normal unless someone states otherwise. I mentioned in a post back a few pages that i was getting the Dolby Vision display in red or off-red color also. My picture while playing DV content looks to be right so maybe Lonnie or someone from Emotiva can comment on this to clarify if its an error or the red is the actual color to show that we are getting a DV signal. |
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Post by enricoclaudio on Jun 30, 2018 17:41:04 GMT -5
I haven't get DV neither from Oppo 203, nor from ATV 4K. The ATV 4K get to see DV in my Sony X930E and I can switch to DV but ATV 4K menu looks washed out and XMC-1 shows SDR. The X930E shows SDR as well but with brightness maxed out. I did try plugging my ATV 4K directly to the TV with 8' and 6' Monoprice Certified Premium and MediaBridge 15' HDMI Cable and with the three HDMI cables I get proper DV in my X930E.
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Post by doc1963 on Jun 30, 2018 17:41:15 GMT -5
Well then at least you have the problem isolated. The best advice would be to call Emotiva Monday morning and see if they can help you figure it out. Normally, I might suggest reflashing the XMC-1 firmware, but since we don’t have 5.1 in a complete file, I would not suggest attempting it without consulting them first. On a side note, I’m a big fan of Blue Jeans products and did use their HDMI cables exclusively, but I have had a couple of their certified BJC Series-FE (bonded pair) cables that didn’t live up to their specs. Replaced them with the Monoprice “Certified Premium” Cables of the same length and, surprisingly, worked. I’m not saying you have a bad cable, but with the current state of affairs surrounding this hobby, I also would not rule it out. I also get a “reddish” OSD over a Dolby Vision signal. This has never changed for me and, since others have mentioned it, I would assume that it’s normal unless someone states otherwise. Hope you get it sorted out... Thanks for the help. I swapped cables as well and it didn't solve the issue either. What I now notice is the xmc-1 tries to pass the Dolby vision content in RGB rather than ypbr. This is disconcerting that the xmc-1 is temperamental and it works for some and not others. Yes, it’s not as baked as it could have been, but I’ve survived much worse. Hang in there... we’ll all get there together. I do know geebo has the same setup (C7, 203 and XMC-1), but his HDMI upgrade hasn’t yet taken off. I’m sure we’ll hear from him once his is done. I’m curious to find out if anything was tweaked in this update to support DV@60Hz. I have a C6, so my set only supports DV@24Hz which “might” be why I have no problems with Dolby Vision after the update. |
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Post by enricoclaudio on Jun 30, 2018 17:45:39 GMT -5
Looks to me that DV is becoming the New "HDCP" of the HDMI world, I mean, in terms of issues  BTW, I found that HDR10 looks more colorful and rich compared to DV. So much for DV and I think I like HDR10 better. |
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Post by andyman on Jun 30, 2018 17:51:43 GMT -5
So....... I have my laptop connected into Xmc on USB cable and use “ USB Stream” for Tidal to that input. I have all surround modes with it. The USB key I received in the V3 HDMI board kit says V5.1. I followed the instructions provided which mentioned nothing about previous FW versions. I would hate for this to be the issue. Loonie did recommend you have the latest firmware before doing upgrade. Sounds more like it was recommended more than mandatory. ( page 3 of this thread ) |
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Post by doc1963 on Jun 30, 2018 17:52:27 GMT -5
Looks to me that DV is becoming the New "HDCP" of the HDMI world, I mean, in terms of issues BTW, I found that HDR10 looks more colorful and rich compared to DV. So much for DV and I think I like HDR10 better. That is certainly a very viable option. Set HDR to “Forced” in the 203 and set the ATV 4K to HDR 60 Hz (with “Match” settings off) and be done with it for now...  |
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Post by andyman on Jun 30, 2018 17:57:20 GMT -5
enricoclaudio Avatar 10 minutes ago enricoclaudio said: Looks to me that DV is becoming the New "HDCP" of the HDMI world, I mean, in terms of issues BTW, I found that HDR10 looks more colorful and rich compared to DV. So much for DV and I think I like HDR10 Yes HDR10 looks great ! |
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Post by bootman on Jun 30, 2018 19:28:09 GMT -5
I’m curious to find out if anything was tweaked in this update to support DV@60Hz. I have a C6, so my set only supports DV@24Hz which “might” be why I have no problems with Dolby Vision after the update. DV@60 requires 2x the BW over HDMI vs 24. These issues we see here are users pushing their cables to the max. |
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Post by bootman on Jun 30, 2018 19:42:57 GMT -5
Is 5.1a posted somewhere? Thanks The last post on page 17 of this thread, Ray has a link to 5.1a Can you put links to the files on the first page of this thread as they become available for users to easily find? |
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Post by enricoclaudio on Jun 30, 2018 21:22:06 GMT -5
Looks to me that DV is becoming the New "HDCP" of the HDMI world, I mean, in terms of issues BTW, I found that HDR10 looks more colorful and rich compared to DV. So much for DV and I think I like HDR10 better. That is certainly a very viable option. Set HDR to “Forced” in the 203 and set the ATV 4K to HDR 60 Hz (with “Match” settings off) and be done with it for now... You should keep "Frame Rate" matching turned on. That way movies will be shown in 24fps. |
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Post by New User on Jun 30, 2018 22:46:14 GMT -5
I just purchased an XMC-1 with the V3 HDMI board. The unit arrived with all the latest firmware updates. The sound quality is amazing and overall I am very happy. One thing I did notice is that the Xbox One X does not seem to think that the XMC is HDR capable. If I run the Xbox direct to my Samsung MU8000, I can enable HDR on the “Insects” demo. Going through the XMC-1, the diagnostic states my TV is not HDR capable. Any ideas?
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Post by suffolk112000 on Jul 1, 2018 0:26:56 GMT -5
Status update for me.
After talking with Emotiva, we decided to have them send me a new unit. So, hopefully it'll be here before the 4th of July.
I guess this time I will test the new one before putting it in my rack.
First world problems
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Post by wilburthegoose on Jul 1, 2018 6:40:03 GMT -5
For what it's worth, DV is working perfectly for me thru my Oppo UDP-203 and Chromecast to my LG B6P. I have the updated firmware on the Oppo, and everything is set to default.
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Post by donh50 on Jul 1, 2018 9:44:14 GMT -5
Look in the "Official V3" thread; lots of info there. Most likely you need to update the FW; they originally shipped with 5.0, then there was a (full) 5.1 update, and a smaller 5.1a update. Check your FW and if you have 5.0 install 5.1 then 5.1a (do not skip straight to 5.1a); if you have 5.1, install the 5.1a update.
Hopefully an official full FW update with all the patches will be released soon.
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Post by richb on Jul 1, 2018 10:15:01 GMT -5
For what it's worth, DV is working perfectly for me thru my Oppo UDP-203 and Chromecast to my LG B6P. I have the updated firmware on the Oppo, and everything is set to default. The 2016 OLEDs support DV at 30Hz. The new models support DV at 60hz where the problem lies. - Rich |
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Post by andyman on Jul 1, 2018 12:16:49 GMT -5
Turned on the system this morning to see how things are working. No Audio at all from any sources. 😩😩 Turned off rocker switch on back of Xmc and I have sound again. Are the majority of you guys in low power mode or video remains on ? Still only certain sound modes available to me , no DD or DTS . Turned on again this morning ( Sunday ) No audio no video. Turned off rocker switch audio and video returned but still only pcm 2.0. Does anyone recommend reflashing 5.1a or should I wait for Emos response from the email I sent yesterday ? |
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Post by klinemj on Jul 1, 2018 12:26:36 GMT -5
Turned on the system this morning to see how things are working. No Audio at all from any sources. 😩😩 Turned off rocker switch on back of Xmc and I have sound again. Are the majority of you guys in low power mode or video remains on ? Still only certain sound modes available to me , no DD or DTS . Turned on again this morning ( Sunday ) No audio no video. Turned off rocker switch audio and video returned but still only pcm 2.0. Does anyone recommend reflashing 5.1a or should I wait for Emos response from the email I sent yesterday ? I'd try a re-flash...seems easy/fast. And, it may just work. Mark |
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Post by bootman on Jul 1, 2018 15:20:09 GMT -5
Applying this firmware patch might help. emotivalounge.proboards.com/post/949779Download the file and make sure it is the only one on the USB drive. Back up your settings and apply the patch. (you should be running ver 5 on the XMC) Once it is finished I would manually power down the unit again and let it bootup then try the Xbox HDR test again. |
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Post by melm on Jul 1, 2018 16:10:59 GMT -5
For what it's worth, DV is working perfectly for me thru my Oppo UDP-203 and Chromecast to my LG B6P. I have the updated firmware on the Oppo, and everything is set to default. Everything fine here except DirecTV which they know about. I was sending audio from the Oppo to the XMC-1 as LPCM... I thought it (the XMC-1) would still identify the format as Dolby Digital or DTS-MA, whatever. But all it says on the OSD is 'surround'. When I switch to bitstream from the Oppo everything gets identified properly by the OSD. It could be that's the way it always worked, but my memory has faded as to whether there is a change or not. Anyone have any observations? |
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Post by sage on Jul 1, 2018 17:04:58 GMT -5
I am seeing two separate issues with my XMC-1. I’ll detail them both following, as well as the different (many) things I’ve done to test this out. Neither issue appears to be directly related to the other (I can verify the issues independently of each other). Quick note on chain: Oppo 203 w/ newest f/w, outputting to XMC-1 w/ the new board (and I’ve seen both issues with both 5.1 and the 5.1a f/w), outputting to a JVC RS-640. Both of the issues that follow were verified in multiple different cable configurations (short HDMI cable, long HDMI cable) with the control in each case being to remove the XMC-1 from the signal chain (output directly from the Oppo 203 to the JVC projector). The first issue: the XMC-1 never outputs YUV 12 when it’s outputting UHD. It will only output YUV 12 (per the projector) is when the Oppo is set to force 1080p output. Removing the XMC-1 from the chain causes the projector to correctly receive a UHD YUV 12 signal. As noted above, I tried several different HDMI cables including a 4’ run from the XMC-1 to the projector. The solutions are to either force the Oppo 203 to output 1080p, or to remove the XMC-1 from the signal chain. That’s the “easy” issue. The second issue: the XMC-1 introduces some really wonky greyscale / gamma errors into the signal path sometimes (detail follows). This is easily visible in real content (see the pink / green blobs in the Dunkirk sand in the attached photo), and it’s quite visible in test images. The Sony ‘7669’ ramps show it – note the sudden red / green variation in the steps of the ramp. Additionally, I’ve attached a close-up of the full ramp at the bottom of the test image. Note the alternating pink / green fringing in the image. For reference this projector is calibrated via 33 point autocal is tracking at ~2.2 dE across a 10 point range. When the issue is not occurring, the tracking is very good. Completely power cycling the XMC-1 (e.g. stand-by power is set to ‘lowest power) causes the issue to disappear completely temporarily. E.g: 1) display content 2) see the issue 3) power-cycle the XMC-1 without power cycling the projector or the Oppo: temporarily no issue. Grey scale tracking is fixed, and the pink green fringing is gone. Ejecting the disc, re-inserting it and returning to the image causes the issue to immediately return. It’s possible that it’s something else triggering the issue to return (race condition, an hdmi handshake, etc…) but the disc being re-introduced reproduces the issue. Changing the output mode of the Oppo 203 (including forcing 1080p, or forcing UHD @ 24hz, or forcing 8 bit color, or forcing 4:2:0, or forcing all of those in any combination) has no impact on the issue – it reproduces exactly as noted above. A short cable run does not fix the issue. Different XMC-1 output, different XMC-1 input, or using a different input on the project, or using a combination of both, does not fix the issue. The only thing that fixes the issue, and does so with 100% reliability, is by-passing the XMC-1. (Attachments show, in top to bottom order: close-up of 7669 ramp displaying issue, Dunkirk sand dunes from a few minutes in, lowest portion of the sony ramp, mid portion of the sony ramp). |
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BTW, I found that HDR10 looks more colorful and rich compared to DV. So much for DV and I think I like HDR10 better. 
