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Post by doc1963 on Jul 1, 2018 18:15:11 GMT -5
For what it's worth, DV is working perfectly for me thru my Oppo UDP-203 and Chromecast to my LG B6P. I have the updated firmware on the Oppo, and everything is set to default. Everything fine here except DirecTV which they know about. I was sending audio from the Oppo to the XMC-1 as LPCM... I thought it (the XMC-1) would still identify the format as Dolby Digital or DTS-MA, whatever. But all it says on the OSD is 'surround'. When I switch to bitstream from the Oppo everything gets identified properly by the OSD. It could be that's the way it always worked, but my memory has faded as to whether there is a change or not. Anyone have any observations? What you’re seeing is correct. If you have the source device (in your case, your 203) set to decode internally, it will send LPCM downstream. Your XMC-1 will see this and report “PCM x.1” (reported on the second line, center of the display) and engage your predetermined default decoding format (reported on the top line, center). If you have the 203 set to “Bitstream”, it will send the native audio format downstream and the XMC-1 will report that format in the second line, center. As with the above example, your choice (or the XMC-1’s own choice if you have “Auto” set as the default) of surround decoding format is always displayed on the top line, center. |
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Post by enricoclaudio on Jul 1, 2018 18:17:42 GMT -5
Very interesting and disturbing issues, Sage. Did you send an email to Lonnie detailing these two issues?
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Post by cawgijoe on Jul 1, 2018 19:26:51 GMT -5
Got mine in today. went smooth. No issues. Nice board.
Everything seems to be working.
Only issue I had was with Directv. Everytime I turned the system on, a message would pop up asking me to program the remote.
Then the next time I turned the system on, no sound. Either from the TV speakers or the XMC-1.
Both problems were solved by switching the back power switch off/on.
So far so good. Right now I'm very happy.
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Post by doc1963 on Jul 1, 2018 20:26:26 GMT -5
Interesting observation... tonight was the first time that I’ve gotten the chance to watch a full movie using my XMC-1 with the new board. Now, when I’m in full blown “movie mode”, all of the lights go out and my HT is dark other than for the blue illumination from my Emotiva components. I’ve never noticed this in my previous observations while the room is “normally” lit, but has anyone (especially all of you OLED owners) noticed that the “no input” screen is not totally black...? I can clearly see my screen glow (even above the blue ambient light) when no live signal is present at the XMC-1’s input. Anyone who owns an OLED knows that, on these sets, what should be black is BLACK. This may be meaningless, as “something” is needed to keep the connection live, but I don’t recall the original board outputting anything but absolute black on this same LG C6. This may be a “mountain... meet molehill” moment and if it’s nothing to worry about, that’s fine, but after the inconsistent and flaky things I’ve seen while using my ATV 4K (only when connected to the XMC-1) and then reading what sage discovered a few posts back makes me just a little bit concerned that “something” is doing something that it shouldn’t. |
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Post by New User on Jul 1, 2018 20:50:38 GMT -5
Thanks for the advice. I checked the firmware and it’s 5.1. I will update and see what I find.
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Post by sage on Jul 1, 2018 23:22:15 GMT -5
Interesting observation... tonight was the first time that I’ve gotten the chance to watch a full movie using my XMC-1 with the new board. Now, when I’m in full blown “movie mode”, all of the lights go out and my HT is dark other than for the blue illumination from my Emotiva components. I’ve never noticed this in my previous observations while the room is “normally” lit, but has anyone (especially all of you OLED owners) noticed that the “no input” screen is not totally black...? I can clearly see my screen glow (even above the blue ambient light) when no live signal is present at the XMC-1’s input. Anyone who owns an OLED knows that, on these sets, what should be black is BLACK. This may be meaningless, as “something” is needed to keep the connection live, but I don’t recall the original board outputting anything but absolute black on this same LG C6. This may be a “mountain... meet molehill” moment and if it’s nothing to worry about, that’s fine, but after the inconsistent and flaky things I’ve seen while using my ATV 4K (only when connected to the XMC-1) and then reading what sage discovered a few posts back makes me just a little bit concerned that “something” is doing something that it shouldn’t. Have you checked against a black test image for black clipping? (e.g. adjust your black levels) |
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Post by elmex on Jul 1, 2018 23:29:08 GMT -5
I just wanted to report my findings and I am sorry that it is a repeat or what others have posted but at least they are consistent. Dolby vision has always been solid with version 5.0/5.1 but the issue was HDR. The following settings are while watching Point Break 4k UHD with the Oppo 203 and with the ATV4K: FW 5.1 V: 2160/24 8 bit 4:4:4 SDR FW 5.1 OPPO 203: V 2160P/24 8 BIT 4:2:2 HDR I just upgraded the firmware to 5.1a ATV4K: FW 5.1a 2160P/60 12 bit Dolby Vision FW 5.1a Oppo 203: V 2160P/24 12 Bit 4:4:4 HDR. As you can see, this update fixed my HDR issues. It is my understanding that in order for it to be HDR it has to be at least 10 bit. My setup consists of the OLEDC7,OPPO 203, and XMC-1. The weird thing is that every movie that I have on my vudu app on the ATV is now dolby vision and it has the yellow OSD. When I watch the same movie on the oppo, it reports all the right HDR settings with the white OSD. I like the different color codes of the OSD that yellow is DV and white is HDR.
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Post by zarthaz on Jul 2, 2018 0:37:58 GMT -5
Ok, received my board and fitted. Not working 100% yet it seems. The USB stick supplied was marked as 5.1 but when I check firmware installed it says 5.0 and dated as 18/06/18, so I am not sure if i am running 5.0 or 5.1.
Size is 9.00 MB (9,437,188 bytes)
Size on disk 9.03 MB (9,469,952 bytes)
I downloaded the versions that are posted in this thread when they appeared and size of that is.
15.0 MB (15,728,644 bytes) for 5.1
And 7.00 MB (7,340,036 bytes) for the 5.1A update.
So I think that even though the stick says 5.1 it seems to be 5.0.
When I stuck a 4K disk in there was no HDR, player is a Panasonic DMP-UB400 and display is a Panasonic EZ950 65" Oled. Says 2160P SDR
Using the HDMI out on the left side marked as ARC.
What steps to take?
Load the 15 MB firmware?
Curious though why the supplied stick says 5.1 but the sizes are are different and the 15MB is dated the 21/6/18.
Update
Some weird stuff going on, I decided to reload the firmware that is supplied on the USB stick. Had a 4K disc in the player sitting at the front page , the big screen that says Universal.
My display had actually gone missing prior to reloading the supplied firmware and, had no output anymore.
While the firmware was loading the screen came back up and displayed HDR. However after the firmware fully loaded and unit shut down and i turned it off fully and restarted the unit (still set on low power) the display came back up and again in HDR, but when the unit was fully loaded and turned on it has reverted back to SDR but XMC-1 is displaying HDR.....
Loading the 5.1 that comes in at 15 MB now, that 5.0 does not seem to work well, here is hoping
Not getting output from my PS4 either, just a normal PS4, not Pro, it not displaying
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Post by sage on Jul 2, 2018 1:08:51 GMT -5
Very interesting and disturbing issues, Sage. Did you send an email to Lonnie detailing these two issues? I don't have his email address, but I will call emotiva tomorrow. |
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Post by doc1963 on Jul 2, 2018 1:15:06 GMT -5
Ok, received my board and fitted. Not working 100% yet it seems. The USB stick supplied was marked as 5.1 but when I check firmware installed it says 5.0 and dated as 18/06/18, so I am not sure if i am running 5.0 or 5.1. Size is 9.00 MB (9,437,188 bytes) Size on disk 9.03 MB (9,469,952 bytes) I downloaded the versions that are posted in this thread when they appeared and size of that is. 15.0 MB (15,728,644 bytes) for 5.1 And 7.00 MB (7,340,036 bytes) for the 5.1A update. So I think that even though the stick says 5.1 it seems to be 5.0. When I stuck a 4K disk in there was no HDR, player is a Panasonic DMP-UB400 and display is a Panasonic EZ950 65" Oled. Says 2160P SDR Using the HDMI out on the left side marked as ARC. What steps to take? Load the 15 MB firmware? Curious though why the supplied stick says 5.1 but the sizes are are different and the 15MB is dated the 21/6/18. Just to add some clarification, the file for 5.1 A is only “ part” of the firmware package and should only be flashed over top of a full 5.1 install. If you want to upgrade 5.1A, make sure you install 5.1 first. |
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Post by zarthaz on Jul 2, 2018 1:22:27 GMT -5
Ok, received my board and fitted. Not working 100% yet it seems. The USB stick supplied was marked as 5.1 but when I check firmware installed it says 5.0 and dated as 18/06/18, so I am not sure if i am running 5.0 or 5.1. Size is 9.00 MB (9,437,188 bytes) Size on disk 9.03 MB (9,469,952 bytes) I downloaded the versions that are posted in this thread when they appeared and size of that is. 15.0 MB (15,728,644 bytes) for 5.1 And 7.00 MB (7,340,036 bytes) for the 5.1A update. So I think that even though the stick says 5.1 it seems to be 5.0. When I stuck a 4K disk in there was no HDR, player is a Panasonic DMP-UB400 and display is a Panasonic EZ950 65" Oled. Says 2160P SDR Using the HDMI out on the left side marked as ARC. What steps to take? Load the 15 MB firmware? Curious though why the supplied stick says 5.1 but the sizes are are different and the 15MB is dated the 21/6/18. Just to add some clarification, the file for 5.1 A is only “ part” of the firmware package and should only be flashed over top of a full 5.1 install. If you want to upgrade 5.1A, make sure you install 5.1 first. Yep, doing that right now |
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Post by doc1963 on Jul 2, 2018 1:38:22 GMT -5
Interesting observation... tonight was the first time that I’ve gotten the chance to watch a full movie using my XMC-1 with the new board. Now, when I’m in full blown “movie mode”, all of the lights go out and my HT is dark other than for the blue illumination from my Emotiva components. I’ve never noticed this in my previous observations while the room is “normally” lit, but has anyone (especially all of you OLED owners) noticed that the “no input” screen is not totally black...? I can clearly see my screen glow (even above the blue ambient light) when no live signal is present at the XMC-1’s input. Anyone who owns an OLED knows that, on these sets, what should be black is BLACK. This may be meaningless, as “something” is needed to keep the connection live, but I don’t recall the original board outputting anything but absolute black on this same LG C6. This may be a “mountain... meet molehill” moment and if it’s nothing to worry about, that’s fine, but after the inconsistent and flaky things I’ve seen while using my ATV 4K (only when connected to the XMC-1) and then reading what sage discovered a few posts back makes me just a little bit concerned that “something” is doing something that it shouldn’t. Have you checked against a black test image for black clipping? (e.g. adjust your black levels) Yes and no... my set has been calibrated and has very good grayscale results with as little black crush as I could spare without the appearance of the gorgeous “perfect black” of an OLED being compromised. But no, I have not revisited any of that with the XMC-1 back in the chain because the XMC-1 should not have any impact. My point was more to the effect of never being able to clearly “see” the shape of my screen in a dark room with no signal present except for what the XMC-1 is generating to keep the TV’s input “active”. As I said, maybe this is a non-issue because the signal being sent by the XMC-1 to hold the link maybe isn’t, itself, pure black. I just don’t remember seeing this from the original board. My Marantz, on the other hand, put up a splash screen when the link to an input source dropped. |
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Post by doc1963 on Jul 2, 2018 1:52:53 GMT -5
Very interesting and disturbing issues, Sage. Did you send an email to Lonnie detailing these two issues? I don't have his email address, but I will call emotiva tomorrow. The “quick” route for reporting issues without needing to call is “v3support@emotiva.com”. Lonnie, himself, has been responding directly to what I have submitted thus far. |
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Post by zarthaz on Jul 2, 2018 1:53:08 GMT -5
Update after installing 5.1
The HDR seems to be working ok now, it tells me 2160P/24 YCbCr 4:2:2 HDR.
When I switch to the HDMI input where the PS4 is plugged into there is no display and when switching back to HDMI 1 where the 4K BluRay is plugged into that does not display anymore either till a total power down , then it's back.
I guess here comes 5.1A lol
Ok, after 5.1A install it displays on the XMC now as 2160P/24 12 bits YCbCr 4:4:4 HDR
Audio now dispaying properly as well after the 5.1A update, was only doing PCM , but now its Tru HD.
Did notice that before, had me puzzled, but was going to look at that after the picture issues were resolved.
One thing at the time.
Testing PS4 input now, and see if that gets a picture on the screen now
No go on PS4, first time after switching back from PS4 to Bluray picture it came up, but when i went back to PS4 input and then back to Bluray input it did not come up and needed to restart the XMC-1 again
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Post by doc1963 on Jul 2, 2018 2:09:09 GMT -5
Update after installing 5.1 The HDR seems to be working ok now, it tells me 2160P/24 YCbCr 4:2:2 HDR. When I switch to the HDMI input where the PS4 is plugged into there is no display and when switching back to HDMI 1 where the 4K BluRay is plugged into that does not display anymore either till a total power down , then it's back. I guess here comes 5.1A lol Ok, after 5.1A install it displays on the XMC now as 2160P/24 12 bits YCbCr 4:4:4 HDR Those results are as expected and are also what I see after 5.1A. FWIW, I always do a full factory reset and a full power down cycle (main switch fully off) after every firmware update. |
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Post by mick on Jul 2, 2018 2:16:38 GMT -5
Can someone post all the Firmware files to a page please including 4.1a
cheers
This would be helpful for me.
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Post by zarthaz on Jul 2, 2018 2:18:17 GMT -5
Update after installing 5.1 The HDR seems to be working ok now, it tells me 2160P/24 YCbCr 4:2:2 HDR. When I switch to the HDMI input where the PS4 is plugged into there is no display and when switching back to HDMI 1 where the 4K BluRay is plugged into that does not display anymore either till a total power down , then it's back. I guess here comes 5.1A lol Ok, after 5.1A install it displays on the XMC now as 2160P/24 12 bits YCbCr 4:4:4 HDR Those results are as expected and are also what I see after 5.1A. FWIW, I always do a full factory reset and a full power down cycle (main switch fully off) after every firmware update. Haven't done factory resets, but have done total power downs after each firmware upgrade. Having issues with the PS4 still though. and have not hooked up my HT computer yet, gotta dig up another HDMI cable first. Plugged PS4 directly into TV for the moment, and will run an optical out i guess for the time being. I cannot say this has been an enjoyable experience sofar lol |
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Post by zarthaz on Jul 2, 2018 3:14:15 GMT -5
Nother update, computer hooked up, got a couple of rips that are HDR and they are displaying in HDR, but they are displayed on the XMC screen in 2160P/60Hz and 8 bits YCbCr 4:4:4 SDR. On the tv it is HDR 2160/60 HDR(PQ), that only works in full screen though, it drops out of HDR when making the player not full screen(Potplayer I use for that) Sound working fine now over HDMI, before i had computer directly into tv and optical out to XMC, but needed to reboot the XMC for that work correctly again. Just the PS4 needs to be working properly over the XMC now, but I dunno what the problem with it is  |
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Post by geebo on Jul 2, 2018 6:47:54 GMT -5
Interesting observation... tonight was the first time that I’ve gotten the chance to watch a full movie using my XMC-1 with the new board. Now, when I’m in full blown “movie mode”, all of the lights go out and my HT is dark other than for the blue illumination from my Emotiva components. I’ve never noticed this in my previous observations while the room is “normally” lit, but has anyone (especially all of you OLED owners) noticed that the “no input” screen is not totally black...? I can clearly see my screen glow (even above the blue ambient light) when no live signal is present at the XMC-1’s input. Anyone who owns an OLED knows that, on these sets, what should be black is BLACK. This may be meaningless, as “something” is needed to keep the connection live, but I don’t recall the original board outputting anything but absolute black on this same LG C6. This may be a “mountain... meet molehill” moment and if it’s nothing to worry about, that’s fine, but after the inconsistent and flaky things I’ve seen while using my ATV 4K (only when connected to the XMC-1) and then reading what sage discovered a few posts back makes me just a little bit concerned that “something” is doing something that it shouldn’t. What if you switch to an unused input on the XMC-1? |
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Post by doc1963 on Jul 2, 2018 7:23:40 GMT -5
Interesting observation... tonight was the first time that I’ve gotten the chance to watch a full movie using my XMC-1 with the new board. Now, when I’m in full blown “movie mode”, all of the lights go out and my HT is dark other than for the blue illumination from my Emotiva components. I’ve never noticed this in my previous observations while the room is “normally” lit, but has anyone (especially all of you OLED owners) noticed that the “no input” screen is not totally black...? I can clearly see my screen glow (even above the blue ambient light) when no live signal is present at the XMC-1’s input. Anyone who owns an OLED knows that, on these sets, what should be black is BLACK. This may be meaningless, as “something” is needed to keep the connection live, but I don’t recall the original board outputting anything but absolute black on this same LG C6. This may be a “mountain... meet molehill” moment and if it’s nothing to worry about, that’s fine, but after the inconsistent and flaky things I’ve seen while using my ATV 4K (only when connected to the XMC-1) and then reading what sage discovered a few posts back makes me just a little bit concerned that “something” is doing something that it shouldn’t. What if you switch to an unused input on the XMC-1? I’ll check tonight... 😉 |
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