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Post by elmex on Jun 21, 2018 23:55:28 GMT -5
Rollin in 5.0. With my ragtop down so my hair can blow. All is well with the update and no other issues at this time. I just need to figure out how to add pictures so I can post them to help others. I mainly use my iPhone for this thread.
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Post by socketman on Jun 22, 2018 0:13:59 GMT -5
I suggested this 4 hours ago, you coulda been 5 beer in by now LOLZ . glad your up and running.
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Post by doc1963 on Jun 22, 2018 0:35:50 GMT -5
Well... I was just about to post "my" list of issues and see that most of them are very similar to what has already been posted in the last few hours.
FWIW, the installation went smoothly (I didn't expect it to be difficult) and I had no problems whatsoever getting the "correct" video modes (SDR, HDR or Dolby Vision) triggered from either my 203 or my ATV 4K.
Most of my issues have been related to getting the correct audio format coming down from the sources and into the XMC-1. However, I see that a firmware "re-flash" has corrected these issues, so off I go again to re-flash mine.
And, yes, switching inputs is much slower than the 1.4b board (and my AV7703) and the OSD responsiveness does lag. Hopefully, they can improve this a little over time. The video pass-through is pristine and I must say that it's awesome to finally have a fully functional OSD over Dolby Vision..!!!
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Post by enricoclaudio on Jun 22, 2018 0:43:11 GMT -5
On another note, the popping sound on ATV 4K when navigate menus is still present. I'm guessing this bug could be fixed only with Atmos upgrade, though.
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Post by elmex on Jun 22, 2018 1:24:25 GMT -5
I suggested this 4 hours ago, you coulda been 5 beer in by now LOLZ . glad your up and running. Socketman. You did call it first with reflash of the firmware. I just didn’t read the second part of the sentence because I was debating doing a factory reset but I did the reset anyway without even thinking about the firmware. I was afraid to do the reset because I read in the instructions that once you load the new firmware that you can not go back to previous versions and I did not want to brick my XMC but that was faulty logic and lack of understanding of the factory reset. This reset did fix some issues when I went from PCM 2.0 to Dolby 5.1 but the reflash of 5.0 got me to what I was use too prior to the install. But now I have gravy on top. |
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Post by doc1963 on Jun 22, 2018 1:59:44 GMT -5
Well smack my ass and call me Ethel..!!! Re-flashing the firmware did correct all of my incoming audio issues. It also corrected the misinformation that was reported when receiving a Dolby Vision video stream. My C6 reported that it was receiving Dolby Vision, but there was no indication of that on the XMC-1's display. Now, it reports correctly as "Dolby Vision". It's also worth noting that prior to the re-flash, the "HDMI Version" found in the XMC-1's "Information" area was blank. After the re-flash, it now shows a version number. The OSD responsiveness also appears to be greatly improved, but input switching speed remains unchanged. Oddly enough, however, I've now lost HDR on all sources (but still get Dolby Vision). It's late, so I'll pursue that problem tomorrow. Maybe the installation instructions should be modified to include the recommendation to re-flash the firmware after installing the board to ensure it works correctly. Thanks for the tip as it surely saved me the aggravation of having to pull my XMC-1 back out of my system and putting the AV7703 back in...  |
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Post by bluescale on Jun 22, 2018 3:02:24 GMT -5
Things definitely aren't working right for me. Video communication with my JVC projector (RS520) is being forced to RGB/8bit. Because of this, UHD movies only give me SDR, and my HTPC is limiting me to a 30hz refresh rate, unless I output at 1080p. Then I can get a 60hz signal, but it's still limited to RGB/8 bit. In all circumstances audio is working flawlessly.
Before anyone gets hung up on the cables, the same cables going from my HTPC to the XMC-1 to the JVC used to give me a 60hz signal with the old HDMI board, but I was limited to a 4:2:0 limited range signal (because of the bandwidth limitation of the XMC-1). As for the UHD player, if I take the same cable, and bypass the XMC-1 all together, I can output a 4:4:4 or 4:2:2 signal, and get HDR.
I've tried reflashing the XMC-1 twice now, so that magic bullet isn't going to work for me, unfortunately. Anyone else using this with a JVC projector and having better luck than me?
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Post by elmex on Jun 22, 2018 6:47:59 GMT -5
Well smack my ass and call me Ethel..!!! Re-flashing the firmware did correct all of my incoming audio issues. It also corrected the misinformation that was reported when receiving a Dolby Vision video stream. My C6 reported that it was receiving Dolby Vision, but there was no indication of that on the XMC-1's display. Now, it reports correctly as "Dolby Vision". It's also worth noting that prior to the re-flash, the "HDMI Version" found in the XMC-1's "Information" area was blank. After the re-flash, it now shows a version number. The OSD responsiveness also appears to be greatly improved, but input switching speed remains unchanged. Oddly enough, however, I've now lost HDR on all sources (but still get Dolby Vision). It's late, so I'll pursue that problem tomorrow. Maybe the installation instructions should be modified to include the recommendation to re-flash the firmware after installing the board to ensure it works correctly. Thanks for the tip as it surely saved me the aggravation of having to pull my XMC-1 back out of my system and putting the AV7703 back in... I just noticed that the HDMI Version now shows 3.0 18/06/15. Prior to reflashing the firmware this was blank. This can also be used as an indicator that the firmware needs to be repunched when it is blank. I work on avionics systems on Huey and Cobra helicopters and it is amazing how systems are similar. |
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Post by elmex on Jun 22, 2018 7:03:05 GMT -5
So what is everyone doing with their old board? Any suggestions?
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Post by doc1963 on Jun 22, 2018 7:08:23 GMT -5
Things definitely aren't working right for me. Video communication with my JVC projector (RS520) is being forced to RGB/8bit. Because of this, UHD movies only give me SDR, and my HTPC is limiting me to a 30hz refresh rate, unless I output at 1080p. Then I can get a 60hz signal, but it's still limited to RGB/8 bit. In all circumstances audio is working flawlessly. Before anyone gets hung up on the cables, the same cables going from my HTPC to the XMC-1 to the JVC used to give me a 60hz signal with the old HDMI board, but I was limited to a 4:2:0 limited range signal (because of the bandwidth limitation of the XMC-1). As for the UHD player, if I take the same cable, and bypass the XMC-1 all together, I can output a 4:4:4 or 4:2:2 signal, and get HDR. I've tried reflashing the XMC-1 twice now, so that magic bullet isn't going to work for me, unfortunately. Anyone else using this with a JVC projector and having better luck than me? Something is definitely flaky with the EDID it’s publishing to the sources. Not sure how I can go from no video format problems and all audio format problems on the first flash to no audio format problems, but now no HDR (but I do get Dolby Vision) on the second flash. At 3:30 AM, I finally gave up, unplugged all HDMI cables, killed the power to the XMC-1 and went to bed. I’ll tackle it after I take another nap. But like you, I’m using cables that are certified, battle tested, tried and true. They’re not my problem... |
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Post by doc1963 on Jun 22, 2018 7:14:08 GMT -5
So what is everyone doing with their old board? Any suggestions? I’m going to glue mine to a paint stirrer and use it as a fly swatter...  |
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Post by cawgijoe on Jun 22, 2018 7:54:05 GMT -5
I get mine on Monday. Probably won’t have time to install till the next weekend.
So, I guess the consensus is to follow the given directions and then reflash the firmware a second time, correct?
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Post by doc1963 on Jun 22, 2018 7:59:59 GMT -5
I get mine on Monday. Probably won’t have time to install till the next weekend. So, I guess the consensus is to follow the given directions and then reflash the firmware a second time, correct? Yep... and I would give it the second flash before I bothered connecting a single cable... |
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Post by cawgijoe on Jun 22, 2018 8:03:06 GMT -5
I get mine on Monday. Probably won’t have time to install till the next weekend. So, I guess the consensus is to follow the given directions and then reflash the firmware a second time, correct? Yep... and I would give it the second flash before I bothered connecting a single cable... That’s what I will do! |
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Post by Lonnie on Jun 22, 2018 8:04:56 GMT -5
Cable length and type will make all the difference in the world when it comes to 4K HDR. At 18Gig we find anything longer then 6 feet is an iffy proposition. We use our HDBASE-t TX and RX for the projectors and can easily run 150 feet. But on a standard copper HDMI cable, well that is another story and as for the optical cables, well that is even more of a hot mess. None of them are approved because they all draw their power off of the HDMI PCB which is not allowed. In fact we have one here that draws so much juice that it actually sucks the HDMI board dry and the processor lock up. Now if they had an external power supply it would be great, but I haven't seen one yet. Lonnie What about active HDMI cables like the Monoprice HOSS Active High Speed HDMI Cable? I have one 50' right now and I get full 4K/60Hz HDR and chroma 4:4:4 connecting my Oppo 203 directly to my TV. Just depends on where it gets its power from. If its pulling power from the HDMI board itself, then its not compliant and who knows. If it has an external power source then you should be fine. Lonnie |
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Post by Lonnie on Jun 22, 2018 8:11:45 GMT -5
Well, it looks like my XMC-1 might be bricked.  At the end of the firmware installation, I had the "err: init HDSB82" error message someone else reported previously. Per Lonnie's suggestion, I shut down the XMC-1, and proceeded to install the HDMI board as instructed. After getting the board installed, I turned the XMC-1 back on, and at the end of the boot cycle, I still see the same message. I've tried power cycling it several times (both by holding down the power button, and flipping the rocker in the back) - no joy. Once the error message comes up, I can't get into the menu to try a factory reset, or try reinstalling the firmware. I've left it on for about half an hour now, hoping it would keep chugging, and finally start working, but nothing. I'll call Emo in the morning to see if they have any suggestions. Unless they've got a magic trick up their sleeve, my guess is I'm shipping this back to the mothership <sigh>. No theater for me tonight. Edit: In case anyone's curious, I had firmware 4.1 installed before installing 5.0. Sorry for the hassle here dude. This is why the instructions say to turn off video on standby and the processor will shut itself down after it loads the code, then install the board before powering it up again. If you got this error before you installed the HDMI board and it didn't recover after installing it, then it needs to come back here. Give us a call and we will get you an RMA to send it in. Lonnie |
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Post by Lonnie on Jun 22, 2018 8:18:01 GMT -5
Well, it looks like my XMC-1 might be bricked. At the end of the firmware installation, I had the "err: init HDSB82" error message someone else reported previously. Per Lonnie's suggestion, I shut down the XMC-1, and proceeded to install the HDMI board as instructed. After getting the board installed, I turned the XMC-1 back on, and at the end of the boot cycle, I still see the same message. I've tried power cycling it several times (both by holding down the power button, and flipping the rocker in the back) - no joy. Once the error message comes up, I can't get into the menu to try a factory reset, or try reinstalling the firmware. I've left it on for about half an hour now, hoping it would keep chugging, and finally start working, but nothing. I'll call Emo in the morning to see if they have any suggestions. Unless they've got a magic trick up their sleeve, my guess is I'm shipping this back to the mothership <sigh>. No theater for me tonight. Edit: In case anyone's curious, I had firmware 4.1 installed before installing 5.0. I've been building computers for a very long time. I started building them from scratch when I was a kid. I built my first computer, more than 27 years ago, at the age of 13. I only point this out because the XMC-1 is essentially a computer, and that makes it doubly embarrassing that I made a rookie mistake, and then came to post about it on this board without checking my work first. I plugged all the ribbon cables in, but forgot about the power molex. No wonder the XMC-1 couldn't recognize the HDMI board - it wasn't getting any power. Anyway, the moral of this story is double check your work, and if something goes wrong, always assume user error first. So glad to hear you figured it out. Now you don't need to send it in. Lonnie |
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Post by bluescale on Jun 22, 2018 9:52:17 GMT -5
This is why the instructions say to turn off video on standby and the processor will shut itself down after it loads the code, then install the board before powering it up again. You're absolutely correct - this is the step I missed in the instructions. I bet those of us who are getting the "err: init HDSB82" message after flashing the firmware are skipping this particular step. Fortunately it turned out to be a non-issue, but another reminder not to overlook the small details. |
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Post by Lonnie on Jun 22, 2018 9:58:08 GMT -5
This is why the instructions say to turn off video on standby and the processor will shut itself down after it loads the code, then install the board before powering it up again. You're absolutely correct - this is the step I missed in the instructions. I bet those of us who are getting the "err: init HDSB82" message after flashing the firmware are skipping this particular step. Fortunately it turned out to be a non-issue, but another reminder not to overlook the small details. Hey we are just human and we all miss things from time to time. I'm just thrilled that is was a simple deal and you didn't need to send it in. Glad you are up and running. Lonnie |
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Post by melm on Jun 22, 2018 9:58:09 GMT -5
Lonnie:
For subsequent firmware updates to the board will it be required to turn off video on standby??
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