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Post by me262 on Nov 6, 2018 18:30:56 GMT -5
Hi Guys, Wanted to check in, I have been trying to follow the back and forth in the forum. I am wondering if things with the latest 5.3 firmware are finally stable with the new HDMI board.
Display LG EF9500 OLED
Devices Apple TV (would get the 4k) Home Theater PC (Windows 10) Nintendo Switch
I would be replacing all of my HDMI cables and know that this is just a necessary evil of this process. I believe my TV does not support doubly vision so not concerned about that as I won't turn on that feature on the Apple TV. Does anyone think things are stable enough that upgrading the HDMI board is a wise move at this point, or should I continue to stay put?
Thanks as always!
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Post by wilburthegoose on Nov 7, 2018 16:53:33 GMT -5
Go for it now.
BTW - I have an LG OLED TV (2016), and it does Dolby Vision.
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Post by rogersch on Nov 7, 2018 19:37:10 GMT -5
Does anyone think things are stable enough that upgrading the HDMI board is a wise move at this point, or should I continue to stay put? Well in my setup I have regular audio issues. I tried several workarounds (delays) in my Harmony remote but it didn't solve the problem. Sometimes the Audio Return Channel doesn't work (very briefly audio but then silence) when I select TV. Switching to another source and back solves this problem. And also if I select my Blu-ray or media player directly while powering up the system (all via the Harmony remote) there are audio issues when playing multi channel flac files or flac files with a different sampling rate. For this I raised a ticket emotiva. Only if I select first watching TV on my Harmony and there after the Blu-ray or media player this problem doesn't exist. I already extended the delay of sending commands to the XMC-1 after it is being powered up (use low power mode) to 60 seconds but the problem still exists. I didn't had those issues with the original HDMI board. Well if a friend of mine would ask to buy an XMC-1 I would not recommend it.
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Post by Gary Cook on Nov 7, 2018 21:03:06 GMT -5
Hi Guys, Wanted to check in, I have been trying to follow the back and forth in the forum. I am wondering if things with the latest 5.3 firmware are finally stable with the new HDMI board. Display LG EF9500 OLED Devices Apple TV (would get the 4k) Home Theater PC (Windows 10) Nintendo Switch I would be replacing all of my HDMI cables and know that this is just a necessary evil of this process. I believe my TV does not support doubly vision so not concerned about that as I won't turn on that feature on the Apple TV. Does anyone think things are stable enough that upgrading the HDMI board is a wise move at this point, or should I continue to stay put? Thanks as always! Some people have issues that others don't, some issues are big, some are minor and easily ignored. Often it's hardware related or most often affect by the HDMI cables. Personally I don't have any issues of any substance. But, for example, I would never bother even trying ARC, it has never worked perfectly for me over 2 x AVR's and 3 x processors. Plus it's lossy DD5.1 so it's not like I'm missing anything worthwhile. Same with CRC, that's a rabbit hole I'm not diving into again. I have deliberately kept my HDMI cable runs as short as possible and only used professional grade cables. No Direct TV in Australia and I don't directly connect computers to my processors, the Apple TV4K handles that requirement. My Samsung TV doesn't do Dolby Vision. With the above in mind, my guess (it's just a guess) is you won't have any problems with the ATV or the LG TV (sans DV). I have no experience with a Nintendo Switch, perhaps try a search on that. If connected directly to the XMC-1 the HTPC is almost guaranteed to have issues. Cheers Gary
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Post by ttocs on Nov 7, 2018 21:31:24 GMT -5
^^^^ I agree with Gary above. I only experience issues with HTPC, which for me means Mac Mini only used as music server and only causes issue if I want to see the computer desktop through the XMC-1. Using optical only there are no problems.
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Post by me262 on Nov 7, 2018 23:36:57 GMT -5
Is anyone using the HDMI board with a home theater pc (windows)? That is my primary input so if that were to stop working that would be a major problem for me.
Thanks again for answering above really appreciate it.
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Post by Gary Cook on Nov 8, 2018 0:05:32 GMT -5
Is anyone using the HDMI board with a home theater pc (windows)? That is my primary input so if that were to stop working that would be a major problem for me. I have my media stored on a MacMini (EHDD's) in my home office, anything I want to play is done via the ATV4K which obviously has video in 4K and handles lossless audio. This avoids me having to physically connect the MacMini to the XMC-1 and the hassles that would undoubtedly cause. Cheers Gary
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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 8, 2018 9:05:25 GMT -5
Hi Guys, Wanted to check in, I have been trying to follow the back and forth in the forum. I am wondering if things with the latest 5.3 firmware are finally stable with the new HDMI board. Display LG EF9500 OLED Devices Apple TV (would get the 4k) Home Theater PC (Windows 10) Nintendo Switch I would be replacing all of my HDMI cables and know that this is just a necessary evil of this process. I believe my TV does not support doubly vision so not concerned about that as I won't turn on that feature on the Apple TV. Does anyone think things are stable enough that upgrading the HDMI board is a wise move at this point, or should I continue to stay put? Thanks as always! Is anyone using the HDMI board with a home theater pc (windows)? That is my primary input so if that were to stop working that would be a major problem for me. Thanks again for answering above really appreciate it. HTPCs seem like one of the acid tests for HDMI, including the V3, there are several posts about them on previous pages. This poll might be helpful too. emotivalounge.proboards.com/post/958902/thread
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Post by mr on Nov 8, 2018 11:01:56 GMT -5
Is anyone using the HDMI board with a home theater pc (windows)? That is my primary input so if that were to stop working that would be a major problem for me. I have my media stored on a MacMini (EHDD's) in my home office, anything I want to play is done via the ATV4K which obviously has video in 4K and handles lossless audio. This avoids me having to physically connect the MacMini to the XMC-1 and the hassles that would undoubtedly cause.Cheers Gary I have finally given up on trying to get the Mac Mini to work properly with the XMC-1; or, I should say, I have given up trying to get the XMC-1 to work properly with my Mac Mini. The new board has taken the Mini out of my system. Bought a Roon Nucleus, which switches fine, sounds great. Expensive fix, but it works.
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Post by Casey Leedom on Nov 8, 2018 12:40:52 GMT -5
So, is this an HDMI Compliance issue with the Mac Mini or the new XMC-1 V3 HDMI Board? Just curious.
Casey
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Post by panchakshari on Nov 8, 2018 12:41:51 GMT -5
Hi all... When did Atmos board release..!
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Post by Casey Leedom on Nov 8, 2018 12:53:33 GMT -5
The Atmos board hasn't released yet. In the last PodCast (October 5, 2018) my notes say that they " The XMC-1 Atmos upgrade is still being worked on. No information was provided on scheduling for that." Casey
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Post by multicore on Nov 8, 2018 15:09:28 GMT -5
That kind of defeats the purpose of a programmable remote control. Have you had any problems coming out of low power standby with your cable box as the source? Nope, just switching sources to the cable box when it's already turned on and not every time. I have an infra red blaster controlled by iPhone, iPad etc. It has programmable variable delay, which if I remember rightly Logitech universal remotes do as well. We are not frequent source changers, maybe once or twice a day, so it's not a big deal having a few seconds delay. There's a new box available which handles 4K but it's satellite only and they aren't broadcasting a lot of 4K content as yet. It supposedly doesn't have the handshaking issues, but early days yet, I'll wait until there are more reviews and more importantly more content. Cheers Gary I have confirmed that when I switch the XMC-1 to low power standby, the issue with not having video from the Comcast X1 box on power up goes away. This is true whether the X1 is previously powered up or not. This is also true with no added delays from my logitech. To be honest, I am not sure what conclusions can be drawn from this (is it related to video passed in standby or some kind of timing issue?). I need to run another test where XMC-1 is in video passed standby where the last source is NOT comcast.
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Post by wilburthegoose on Nov 8, 2018 15:30:33 GMT -5
Is anyone using the HDMI board with a home theater pc (windows)? That is my primary input so if that were to stop working that would be a major problem for me. Thanks again for answering above really appreciate it. I was using my Windows 10 PC as a HTPC, but I don't bother ever since I started using Chromecast Ultra (4k) / Plex / Roon. Therefore, I haven't even tested my connection. If want to listen to Roon music, I'll use the Chromecast or Oppo UDP-203, or for music while watching sports, the USB from my PC to the XMC-1. And, by the way, I don't use ARC. I gave up on ARC many years ago. If I'm using the native apps on my LG TV, I'll use the Toslink cable from the TV to the XMC-1. Works perfectly.
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Post by multicore on Nov 8, 2018 15:38:00 GMT -5
Nope, just switching sources to the cable box when it's already turned on and not every time. I have an infra red blaster controlled by iPhone, iPad etc. It has programmable variable delay, which if I remember rightly Logitech universal remotes do as well. We are not frequent source changers, maybe once or twice a day, so it's not a big deal having a few seconds delay. There's a new box available which handles 4K but it's satellite only and they aren't broadcasting a lot of 4K content as yet. It supposedly doesn't have the handshaking issues, but early days yet, I'll wait until there are more reviews and more importantly more content. Cheers Gary I have confirmed that when I switch the XMC-1 to low power standby, the issue with not having video from the Comcast X1 box on power up goes away. This is true whether the X1 is previously powered up or not. This is also true with no added delays from my logitech. To be honest, I am not sure what conclusions can be drawn from this (is it related to video passed in standby or some kind of timing issue?). I need to run another test where XMC-1 is in video passed standby where the last source is NOT comcast. I have now confirmed that when in video passed on standby, and the last source is NOT the Xfinity X1, then powering up with X1 as the source, everything works correctly. The failure case is only when powering up where XMC-1 is set to video passed on standby with X1 as source as well as being the last source on previous power down. In his case, I do not get video. This did NOT happen with the original HDMI board. Possible Conclusion (maybe?): there is a failure mode with the new V3 HDMI board when reconnecting video from the same source as video passed on standby source. I have not confirmed this with any other source other than the X1. So it may be an isolated case.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 8, 2018 16:18:18 GMT -5
So, is this an HDMI Compliance issue with the Mac Mini or the new XMC-1 V3 HDMI Board? Just curious. Casey While Lonnie has communicated that they are working on the Mac mini issue (which has also been duplicated on MacBooks), he hasn't mentioned anything specific that they’ve found. Which is to say ... I don’t know.
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Post by ttocs on Nov 8, 2018 16:35:09 GMT -5
So, is this an HDMI Compliance issue with the Mac Mini or the new XMC-1 V3 HDMI Board? Just curious. Casey While Lonnie has communicated that they are working on the Mac mini issue (which has also been duplicated on MacBooks), he hasn't mentioned anything specific that they’ve found. Which is to say ... I don’t know. I agree, nobody knows enough yet. But, . . . a little comedic interlude, Mr Hand: "I like that, hmm, hmm, 'I - don't - know'. That's nice. Mr Hand, will I pass this class? Gee Mr Spicoli, I don't know."
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Post by nickwin on Nov 8, 2018 17:06:41 GMT -5
Are people getting DV on 2018 LG OLEDs with the current FW?
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Post by Casey Leedom on Nov 8, 2018 17:14:02 GMT -5
Hhmmm, well I presume that ewiles has access to Mac Minis at work and should be able to reproduce the issues with them. Hopefully he's provided enough information to Lonnie and crew to diagnose/fix the issue ... or even identify the issue as a Mac Mini problem with a possible work around ... Casey
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Post by mr on Nov 8, 2018 17:55:31 GMT -5
So, is this an HDMI Compliance issue with the Mac Mini or the new XMC-1 V3 HDMI Board? Just curious. Casey It is the new board. The Mini switched fine before the upgrade. Was a hassle after. My wife was as tired as I was of having to do the rocker-reboot.
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