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Post by Bonzo on Sept 6, 2018 12:42:54 GMT -5
I'm more referring to the XMC2's guts; are they XMC-1 guts, or RMC-1 guts. The processors and DACs are different between the XMC1 and RMC, but perhaps not with the XMC2. Lonnie has said that the new XMC-2 and RMC-1 would sound identical for 2 channel. Read into that what you want, but I'd guess that means they are the same for the balanced channels, which would mean right center and left. |
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Post by rbk123 on Sept 6, 2018 12:45:06 GMT -5
I'd rather not read into it, which is why I'm asking.
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Post by Casey Leedom on Sept 6, 2018 12:56:42 GMT -5
Hhmmm, so we know that the XMC-2 will be more expensive than the current XMC-1 ($2,500), but not how much more expensive. And we know that the RMC-1 will be $5,000. At best that leaves a $2,500 spread to get the XMC-2, RMC-2, and RMC-1 into. From a product placement/targeting perspective that feels a little crowded ...
There is a huge amount of space between the MC-700 at $700 and the new XMC-2 somewhere north of $2,500, but I don't see anything filling that (other than the often rumored Emersa line) ...
Casey
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Post by lrobertson on Sept 6, 2018 13:25:31 GMT -5
No Dolby announcements at Cedia in response to the IMAX DTS:X?
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Post by Bonzo on Sept 6, 2018 13:36:49 GMT -5
Hhmmm, so we know that the XMC-2 will be more expensive than the current XMC-1 ($2,500), but not how much more expensive. And we know that the RMC-1 will be $5,000. At best that leaves a $2,500 spread to get the XMC-2, RMC-2, and RMC-1 into. From a product placement/targeting perspective that feels a little crowded ... There is a huge amount of space between the MC-700 at $700 and the new XMC-2 somewhere north of $2,500, but I don't see anything filling that (other than the often rumored Emersa line) ... Casey My thoughts exactly. $3000, $4000 and $5000 were my thoughts (not facts). Now since the XMC-2 is more AND less, perhaps they are going to squeeze it down to say $2000? I doubt it, but I guess we'll see at some point. |
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Post by garbulky on Sept 6, 2018 14:04:36 GMT -5
I think the XMC-1 will be discontinued after the XMC-2 is introduced. Too many similar features.
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Post by Bonzo on Sept 6, 2018 14:17:10 GMT -5
I think the XMC-1 will be discontinued after the XMC-2 is introduced. Too many similar features. Of course it will be. According to the email advert I got today, this is "my last chance". Where you been sonny? 😉😁 |
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Post by Casey Leedom on Sept 6, 2018 15:15:27 GMT -5
And by the way, if there is anyone at CEDIA asking questions, etc., if you would, please get the scoop on what Emotiva's Music Streaming solution will be — especially with reference to a Roon Endpoint. If it's going to require an Expansion Module, that would limit it to the RMC-1.
Casey
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Post by Bonzo on Sept 6, 2018 15:21:12 GMT -5
How about more information on ALL the RMC modules that are 1. In the works, 2. Definitely planned, 3. Thinking about it, and 4. Not a chance in hell.
After we know which ones, then we can ask more specifics about each one.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Sept 6, 2018 17:13:40 GMT -5
It’s seems that the RMC-2 is what the RMC-1 was when first proposed, I think there are probably pictures around when it was 3U, even then it was slated to be $5000. So it seems with the current RMC-1 they’ve given us more than was originally planned for the same price; and now they’ll give us what they originally planned for a lower price ... hopefully you could follow that.
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Post by LCSeminole on Sept 6, 2018 17:17:02 GMT -5
It’s seems that the RMC-2 is what the RMC-1 was when first proposed, I think there are probably pictures around when it was 3U, even then it was slated to be $5000. So it seems with the current RMC-1 they’ve given us more than was originally planned for the same price; and now they’ll give us what they originally planned for a lower price ... hopefully you could follow that. My thoughts as well. |
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Post by bblv on Sept 6, 2018 17:24:50 GMT -5
Why oh why confuse the flagship RMC name by dropping an RMC-2 on us?!
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Post by Casey Leedom on Sept 6, 2018 17:35:06 GMT -5
Yeah, it's not an "excellent" choice of name since it confuses with two different interpretations of the "{name}-2":
1. The current meaning: the second version of {name}.
2. The new meaning: a different configuration of {name}.
I probably would have gone with something like "RMC/s-1", "sRMC-1", etc. I.e. it's an RMC-1 but smaller and less expandable.
Casey
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Post by Bonzo on Sept 6, 2018 17:56:02 GMT -5
Yeah, it's not an "excellent" choice of name since it confuses with two different interpretations of the " {name}-2": 1. The current meaning: the second version of {name}. 2. The new meaning: a different configuration of {name}. I probably would have gone with something like "RMC/s-1", "sRMC-1", etc. I.e. it's an RMC-1 but smaller and less expandable. Casey No no no. The RMC-1S is for the silver edition, with silver knob and trim. ☺️ But yeah, here we go again with the bad names. RMCL-1 might not be too bad. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Sept 6, 2018 18:14:32 GMT -5
I’m fine with the name, 1 is different than 2, 1st is better than 2nd, 1 will come out before 2, ok you take it from there.
Don’t go messing with the TLA’s
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Post by Casey Leedom on Sept 6, 2018 18:19:31 GMT -5
Okay Bonzo, I thought that might tweak your sensibilities. How about the boringly more obvious "RMC/3U-1"? Or maybe "RMC/NX-1" for "No Expansion Module capability? Casey |
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Post by lrobertson on Sept 6, 2018 18:54:36 GMT -5
I could see the RMC-1X (expandable) and the RMC-1. Leave some growing space for generational numbers. As long as the 5k price tag remains on the original expandable unit I’m good with whatever they want to call it.
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Post by Bonzo on Sept 6, 2018 18:56:42 GMT -5
I’m fine with the name, 1 is different than 2, 1st is better than 2nd, 1 will come out before 2, ok you take it from there. Don’t go messing with the TLA’s Its a catch 22, because then when the next one comes out years from it will be the whole Gen thing all over again. But ya know what, I'm done screwing with it. If they want to be inconsistent and always have people questioning it because they are confused, so be it.😎 TLA's? |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Sept 6, 2018 18:59:28 GMT -5
I’m fine with the name, 1 is different than 2, 1st is better than 2nd, 1 will come out before 2, ok you take it from there. Don’t go messing with the TLA’s Its a catch 22, because then when the next one comes out years from it will be the whole Gen thing all over again. But ya know what, I'm done screwing with it. If they want to be inconsistent and always have people questioning it because they are confused, so be it.😎 TLA's? Three Letter Acronym ... XMC, RMC, XPA etc. I wouldn’t want to see an RMCL-1, but would be fine with an RMC-1L. |
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Post by Bonzo on Sept 6, 2018 19:00:18 GMT -5
Okay Bonzo, I thought that might tweak your sensibilities. How about the boringly more obvious "RMC/3U-1"? Or maybe "RMC/NX-1" for "No Expansion Module capability? Casey See my latest post above. I'm done trying. 😎 As long as a silver knob/trim option becomes available, I'm not going to let it bug me anymore. ☺️ |
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