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Post by creimes on Sept 8, 2018 21:27:55 GMT -5
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Post by AudioHTIT on Sept 8, 2018 21:29:44 GMT -5
... and configured that way it’s called the RMC-1B ... well, you know what that’s for. |
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Post by creimes on Sept 8, 2018 21:32:46 GMT -5
Dan speak is unreal. Such used car hyperbole. Slippery when wet. $4999 just about prices 85% of the consumers out of this piece. Throw in the full additional channel log and you are sneaking in under $10k. Sounds like a deal! Okay just talked it over with the wife, we have our kids up for sale on the black market, once they are out I'm tearing down all the upstairs walls in my 850sqft house to open it up to a larger area, then I'm going to redesign the complete space for a custom 28 channel theater and maybe add an RSP-3(still unannounced) for 2 channel duties. Sincerly, I'm outta my mind |
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Post by novisnick on Sept 8, 2018 22:02:21 GMT -5
$4999 just about prices 85% of the consumers out of this piece. Throw in the full additional channel log and you are sneaking in under $10k. Sounds like a deal! Okay just talked it over with the wife, we have our kids up for sale on the black market, once they are out I'm tearing down all the upstairs walls in my 850sqft house to open it up to a larger area, then I'm going to redesign the complete space for a custom 28 channel theater and maybe add an RSP-3(still unannounced) for 2 channel duties. Sincerly, I'm outta my mind And here I though you finally came to your senses! 😋 |
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Post by vcautokid on Sept 9, 2018 8:37:37 GMT -5
Nick why the tease with tiny pictures! Biggger pics at the top of the thread for your consideration. |
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Post by vcautokid on Sept 9, 2018 8:47:00 GMT -5
Don't underestimate the tactile feel of a knob. Push buttons are less intuitive than the simple twist of a knob. The DC-2 with buttons may be a bust for some. I liked the encoder on the DC-1 too. But, if the rest of the interface is up to scratch, then knob absence is forgiven. I did note the balanced headphone output though. Very curious how DC-2 stacks up against the already awesome DC-1.
We will be waiting, and of course, listening.
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Post by brubacca on Sept 9, 2018 8:55:58 GMT -5
I can't help but think that a 5k - 8k ht processor is directed more at the custom install market. If you are spending 40k on a true HT room then whats an extra couple grand for this processor.
To the normal home user its everything because we are diy and every (thousand) dollar counts.
I think Emotiva's old target market was me exactly. People who can afford a little more for really quality audio, but not a lot more. I think that the focus has been elsewhere for quite some time.
Come on Emotiva, come back to us. (I am specifically referring to the HT market at this point)
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Post by klinemj on Sept 9, 2018 9:13:01 GMT -5
Wow... Now it’s 28 channels... WTH is going on?? The RMC-1 is a beast.. All this back and fourth seems strange though. Like I feel safer assuming 24 is the real number. I don’t know how it went from 16 to 16 plus 6 subs to 4 subs to 24 then 28. I hope we stay right here at 28 though. I was thinking the same thing until I realized...if it was 16, then you add 3 four-channel expansion modules - that's 28 (16 + 3*4). Or, it could be 24 (16 + 2*4). Or 20 (16 + 4). Since everyone here seems to like to suggest names for Emotiva products, I'll toss this out: RMC-1-16, RMC-1-20, RMC-1-24, RMC-1-28. And, since it seems people don't like RMC-2...then...RMC-1-16L. There - now you have it. And, with that, I'm done w/name suggestions. Mark |
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Post by lrobertson on Sept 9, 2018 9:25:35 GMT -5
I like those names... they suggest our discounts should be applied to all channels at time of purchase haha. I accidentally posted 28 at the mention of the modules because I did the 3x4 arithmetic but people said it would be 24 due to maxing the processing power out. Hope 28 is true. Nothing wrong with some growing space.
I don’t think they are purposely ignoring any normal income household. I think there is just the right way to start things out for Atmos and mda (XMC-2 (the start of your quality market))and there’s a huge gap among top performing systems like the trinnov that cost 5x the amount and the other systems bridge that gap and are actually comparatively a hell of a deal. It sounds like a 5.1.4 mc700 type of machine would be the only possible way Emotiva could satisfy a lower cost option but again the market is full of those. Marantz, Denon, Yamaha, Sony, etc. I couldn’t imagine Emotiva performing as well and efficiently within that crowded market vs the one they chose.
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Post by tchaik on Sept 9, 2018 9:36:21 GMT -5
Wow... Now it’s 28 channels... WTH is going on?? The RMC-1 is a beast.. All this back and fourth seems strange though. Like I feel safer assuming 24 is the real number. I don’t know how it went from 16 to 16 plus 6 subs to 4 subs to 24 then 28. I hope we stay right here at 28 though. I was thinking the same thing until I realized...if it was 16, then you add 3 four-channel expansion modules - that's 28 (16 + 3*4). Or, it could be 24 (16 + 2*4). Or 20 (16 + 4). Since everyone here seems to like to suggest names for Emotiva products, I'll toss this out: RMC-1-16, RMC-1-20, RMC-1-24, RMC-1-28. And, since it seems people don't like RMC-2...then...RMC-1-16L. There - now you have it. And, with that, I'm done w/name suggestions. Mark lets go with non number names like schitt audio does but add a little humor like the....... RMC-Groucho, RMC-Chico, RMC-Harpo, XMC-larry, XMC-Curley and the XMC-Moe. |
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Post by lrobertson on Sept 9, 2018 9:38:28 GMT -5
I’m in for the entire expanded RMC-LOCO
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Post by klinemj on Sept 9, 2018 9:41:00 GMT -5
I was thinking the same thing until I realized...if it was 16, then you add 3 four-channel expansion modules - that's 28 (16 + 3*4). Or, it could be 24 (16 + 2*4). Or 20 (16 + 4). Since everyone here seems to like to suggest names for Emotiva products, I'll toss this out: RMC-1-16, RMC-1-20, RMC-1-24, RMC-1-28. And, since it seems people don't like RMC-2...then...RMC-1-16L. There - now you have it. And, with that, I'm done w/name suggestions. Mark lets go with non number names like schitt audio does but add a little humor like the....... RMC-Groucho, RMC-Chico, RMC-Harpo, XMC-larry, XMC-Curley and the XMC-Moe. Or, RMC-Dan (for the big one w/28 channels), RMC-Lonnie (for the smaller one w/16 channels), and so on... OK, now I am really done w/name options... Mark |
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Post by Bonzo on Sept 9, 2018 11:14:29 GMT -5
Wow... Now it’s 28 channels... WTH is going on?? The RMC-1 is a beast.. All this back and fourth seems strange though. Like I feel safer assuming 24 is the real number. I don’t know how it went from 16 to 16 plus 6 subs to 4 subs to 24 then 28. I hope we stay right here at 28 though. I was thinking the same thing until I realized...if it was 16, then you add 3 four-channel expansion modules - that's 28 (16 + 3*4). Or, it could be 24 (16 + 2*4). Or 20 (16 + 4). Since everyone here seems to like to suggest names for Emotiva products, I'll toss this out: RMC-1-16, RMC-1-20, RMC-1-24, RMC-1-28. And, since it seems people don't like RMC-2...then...RMC-1-16L. There - now you have it. And, with that, I'm done w/name suggestions. Mark The thing is, Lonnie, the actual engineer, was quoted by someone here on this forum as saying that 24 was the max due to processing power limitations. And the picture shown only shows 2 modules, not 3. So while there is physical room, according to the first Lonnie report, 28 is not possible. So that's why Dan's comments in the video come across as questionable. No one is going to complain either way, but Emotiva needs to be accurate with their public statements. Its an Achilles heal of theirs. |
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Post by klinemj on Sept 9, 2018 11:25:00 GMT -5
I was thinking the same thing until I realized...if it was 16, then you add 3 four-channel expansion modules - that's 28 (16 + 3*4). Or, it could be 24 (16 + 2*4). Or 20 (16 + 4). Since everyone here seems to like to suggest names for Emotiva products, I'll toss this out: RMC-1-16, RMC-1-20, RMC-1-24, RMC-1-28. And, since it seems people don't like RMC-2...then...RMC-1-16L. There - now you have it. And, with that, I'm done w/name suggestions. Mark The thing is, Lonnie, the actual engineer, was quoted by someone here on this forum as saying that 24 was the max due to processing power limitations. And the picture shown only shows 2 modules, not 3. So while there is physical room, according to the first Lonnie report, 28 is not possible. So that's why Dan's comments in the video come across as questionable. No one is going to complain either way, but Emotiva needs to be accurate with their public statements. Its an Achilles heal of theirs. Where's the picture showing only 2 expansion bays? At Emofest, there were 3 (I know some things have changed since then, but I swear I still saw 3 in the latest pic I can recall. But, now I can't find it!) Mark |
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Post by Bonzo on Sept 9, 2018 11:27:33 GMT -5
The thing is, Lonnie, the actual engineer, was quoted by someone here on this forum as saying that 24 was the max due to processing power limitations. And the picture shown only shows 2 modules, not 3. So while there is physical room, according to the first Lonnie report, 28 is not possible. So that's why Dan's comments in the video come across as questionable. No one is going to complain either way, but Emotiva needs to be accurate with their public statements. Its an Achilles heal of theirs. Where's the picture showing only 2 expansion bays? At Emofest, there were 3 (I know some things have changed since then, but I swear I still saw 3 in the latest pic I can recall. But, now I can't find it!) Mark There are 3 bays, but in the picture in this thread only 2 have the newly mentioned modules in them. Be right back.., |
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Post by Bonzo on Sept 9, 2018 11:29:13 GMT -5
For the RMC-1 crowd.  Mark, this picture here. Actually, I'm thinking this is pure mock up. Otherwise would not the modules have male XLR connections just like the main 16 channels? |
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Post by bblv on Sept 9, 2018 11:53:51 GMT -5
Each expansion module has on-board dual-core processing - am I correct in assuming that this answers the "24 channel processing limitation" quandary?
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Post by lrobertson on Sept 9, 2018 12:07:08 GMT -5
It still has to be able to be controlled by the master computer that assigns each channel their duty to fill. If you assigned a module’s channels without it the content applied wouldn’t match what’s intended when all 28 channels are running in conjunction with each other. If I were to use two module channels for left center and right center in order to properly play objects between center channel and left and right it would need to know I added two speakers in between and adjust. Maybe they’ve moved to a way in which the modules handle everything but this freeing up processing on the master computer. Having each module handle it’s own Dirac and what not may have not been the original plan with a more limited module when they assumed 24 was max. Just a guess at what could possibly be shuffled around this late in the game.. This is why I’m skeptical that all channels are easily assignable because that does take a hell of a lot of computing if it’s on the fly. I’m not a statistics major but supporting every possible speaker layout you can think of with 28 channels on the fly would probably be way too much.. but I could see somehow where we could assign the speakers run a setup and allow the computing to occur outside of playback in order to install the final layout algorithms as if it was a firmware. Having to rerun the entire process to change layouts.
... maybe I’m wrong too and the dual core processing of the module syncs with the main unit just bumping up processing rather than operating parallel on its own. In which case you’re always adding the needed additional processing for the master computer to do its thing.. But then again it almost sounded like Dan was suggesting Dirac control of the modules was an option rather than out right included so that sounds like it’s ran more in parallel. I could of looked into that wrong.. maybe that’s where the 8k figure came from rather than the 7.1k. Hope that’s not the case.. wouldn’t seem in line with how Emotiva handles Dirac.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Sept 9, 2018 12:20:33 GMT -5
I’m wondering if the bi-amp capabilities Dan mentioned are part of the base unit, in other words could you turn 9.1.6 in to 7.1.6 with bi-amped fronts ... or, do you have to add a 4 channel module to bi-amp. It seems odd you’d need the module, but he seemed to lump the capabilities with the modules.
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Post by jagman on Sept 9, 2018 12:42:53 GMT -5
For the RMC-1 crowd. Mark, this picture here. Actually, I'm thinking this is pure mock up. Otherwise would not the modules have male XLR connections just like the main 16 channels? That's what I was thinking... |
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