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Post by goozoo on Jun 5, 2019 8:49:20 GMT -5
If I recall, StormAudio ISP 3D Elite Processors run on ADI Griffin Lite platform and they got Dirac Live 2.0 update already. I think they got it just a few weeks ago, though. View AttachmentLooks like the cat is out of the bag (what a terrible expression...that poor cat!). It will be interesting to see when firmware 1.4 will be released with respect to the DIRAC implementation and whether or not the latest iteration (FW) will resolve all the reported problems. If both are released simultaneously, then it will be a real conundrum for owners as it takes several weeks to flesh out any potential errors whilst only having 30 days due to the return timeline. Emotiva has a lot riding in their shoulders as delays and missteps with 1.4 will likely cost them many frustrated customers. DIRACs release now being implemented across the board will also likely mean a move in timeline for other manufacturers waiting in the wings only adding pressure for Emotiva to deliver. Hopefully all goes well. |
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Post by tom9933 on Jun 5, 2019 9:41:06 GMT -5
I upgraded from the Denon 8500 which will be for sale shortly... So far the RMC even without calibration sounds better especially with respect to dynamics. With the current 1.3 firmware I still have occasional drop outs with DTV when I rewind and with the Shield when playing various streaming (local and remote) sources. Not terrible stuff but definitely not ideal, I too am hoping for additional improvement in 1.4... For what it's worth I had no issues with the Denon, my upgrade was driven by the hope of Dirac and the promise of better sound. My setup is 7.3.4, subs are stereo capable (configured for mono today in the RMC) in the front along with the center being connected to in chair shakers... I see in your signature you also have an HTPC, do you any problem with it and the RMC-1? Thanks I still have a PC with JRiver that can connect to the home theater (HDMI 2.0 active cable), but after switching over to Plex and the Shield I have not used it in memory. The big problem I ran into with the HTPC was getting it to correctly send 4k with HDR, with plex it just works... If there is something specific you want me to try let me know but my expectation is that it will have the same issues as the shield occasional audio drop outs. |
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Post by rooster19 on Jun 5, 2019 20:43:28 GMT -5
I have posted my thoughts before but I would post them here. So far I am happy with the performance of the RMC-1. My setup is different than most here as my Lumagen Pro feeds only audio to the RMC-1, that means my Lumagen does all the HDMI switching. I have used this for all of my processors since I have had the Lumagen so the loss of OSD does not concern me, the app for the RMC-1 gives me the data I need. With that being said here is my feedback. 1. No audio drop outs on Apple TV so far, I watched the entire season 8 of GOT which had some episodes well over an hour and did not have a single issue. Have not really watched any other shows, plan on doing that soon. 2. Kalediscape Strato - I was using this as a demo for some guests during my daughters high school graduation party, and I let it continue to play a movie for some of the kids in the room, when I stopped down to check on it I did hear 2 brief audio drop outs. This is the first time I heard those. I will say that with my Anthem AVM60 I had a couple audio drops on the Strato, but that only happened one time so I can't chalk this up to an RMC-1 issue at this time. 3. I am able to watch TV without issues and without loss off sound when changing channels, or pausing or FF, etc.. 4. I have 8 sources that feed audio via the Lumagen into the RMC-1 and I have tried to break it by switching between, XBOX, PS4, DISH, Strato, OPPO, etc.. playing different formats and other than the RMC-1 taking a few seconds longer than I would like to lock on the audio signal it's been a solid performer. 5. Like stated before there is small 2-4 second delay that happens when the sound format changes. One area where this is a bit bothersome is Kalediscape allows you to put together custom scenes that you can use as a demo. So I can pick any movie clip I want and put together a demo of up to say 10 movies with artwork, and all kinds of stuff. When each of the transitions happen, the RMC-1 takes is 2-4 seconds to pick up audio which makes it annoying when trying to demo your HT. This didn't happen with any of my previous processors, they were always very quick and it wasn't noticeable. It seems with the RMC-1 you aren't going to get the fluid operation of say a Denon, but I also have been looking up other brands that play in the market and it seems like even those have some issues. NAD M17V2 has some bad HDMI issues and also a hissing in the speakers that they have yet to fix, I read that the Lyngdorp MP-50 had to have a reboot to switch from say ATMOS to DTS-X, I think that even Trinnov or Datastat needed to have a daily reboot scheduled to keep the system working optimally. I am not knocking any of these other brands, I just feel like as you get into more of these almost luxry processors that they aren't perfect and that owners are battling issues. It kind of opened my eyes a bit, while my issues are very minor compared to other owners here, I realized that if I went to another brand, I might face other issues that may or may not be more of an issue. When the RMC-1 is working it is a great sounding unit and I just love how it looks in my rack sitting on top of my XPA gear. To those looking to buy, you can read the forums, yes there are issues, and yes you will need to be patient, but you are a knowledgeable buyer and should know exactly what you might be getting yourself into. the trinnov, since it’s PC based needs to be rebooted once a day. Something to do with a log file filling up. But, it’s as simple as powering it off and on once every 24h, so unless you keep your processor on 24/7 ends up not being a big deal. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 8:44:17 GMT -5
since it’s PC based ...., so unless you keep your processor on 24/7 ends up not being a big deal.  That might have been acceptable 20 years ago (especially before win XP) but now it indicates potential OS instability... not a good thing  . |
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Post by mv038856 on Jun 6, 2019 8:54:05 GMT -5
If I recall, StormAudio ISP 3D Elite Processors run on ADI Griffin Lite platform and they got Dirac Live 2.0 update already. I think they got it just a few weeks ago, though. View AttachmentAFAIK, the StormAudio processors use DSP board designs from Momentum Data Systems that are based on Texas Instruments DSPs... |
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Post by goozoo on Jun 6, 2019 9:36:38 GMT -5
That might have been acceptable 20 years ago (especially before win XP) but now it indicates potential OS instability... not a good thing . Trinnov’s OS is one of the most stable out there and the buffer issue is being dealt with in short order. Their Achilles heal is that the processor is based off of a desktop PC motherboard which is highly prone to power surges and will die out or throw errors over a shorter period of time than a conventional processor design. Fortunately a replacement board will not cost $4k like in a DATASAT for example. |
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Post by goozoo on Jun 6, 2019 9:39:44 GMT -5
I find it interesting that Emotiva has started their pre order list for the XMC2 given all the unresolved issues that currently exist with the RMC1. Perhaps they are closer than we know to having a fully functional RMC1.
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Post by rooster19 on Jun 6, 2019 20:30:37 GMT -5
That might have been acceptable 20 years ago (especially before win XP) but now it indicates potential OS instability... not a good thing . I’m not sure the reasons why this reboot needs to be done, but since it doesn’t really inconvenience me and the unit seems to be rock steady stable otherwise i’m willing to give them a pass on it. |
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Post by juanchibiris on Jun 7, 2019 6:18:58 GMT -5
I asked in the Dirac Facebook about Dirac for Emotiva and they said their code it's donde on their part and it should be implemented soon by Emotiva.
Even a user in avs that work with Dirac confirmed this, so let's hope another firmware it's coming soon to solve the problems some people is having and to enable Dirac.
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Post by cwt on Jun 7, 2019 13:04:57 GMT -5
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Post by SteveH on Jun 7, 2019 18:45:11 GMT -5
When the RMC-1 is working it is a great sounding unit and I just love how it looks in my rack sitting on top of my XPA gear. I am a stereo person more so than movie/surround sound. I have 7.2.4 and although the RMC-1 does have quirks, as do other products, I am very happy with the overall Dolby Atmos performance, movies are awesome. On the other hand, I use my RMC-1 in the REFERENCE/DIRECT/STEREO/ALL STEREO modes more than any other mode and I am extremely pleased/impressed with its performance, I have not experienced any quirks in the two channel modes. I hear instruments, clarity and separation that I did not hear before with my previous equipment. Overall, I am very happy with my RMC-1. |
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Post by goozoo on Jun 7, 2019 18:59:07 GMT -5
It would seem that this dealer/integrator is privy to info that many of us here in the states don’t know about or can’t access. Take firmware version 1.4 and apparently 1.5?! I think he meant to say 1.3 and 1.4. Hopefully this will happen before the DIRAC release in 8 weeks. Strange that they keep such information under sight tight lips even to integrators. At this point we know about as much as the rest of the consumers with regard to what Emotiva plans’ are. |
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Post by davidl81 on Jun 7, 2019 19:41:01 GMT -5
When the RMC-1 is working it is a great sounding unit and I just love how it looks in my rack sitting on top of my XPA gear. I am a stereo person more so than movie/surround sound. I have 7.2.4 and although the RMC-1 does have quirks, as do other products, I am very happy with the overall Dolby Atmos performance, movies are awesome. On the other hand, I use my RMC-1 in the REFERENCE/DIRECT/STEREO/ALL STEREO modes more than any other mode and I am extremely pleased/impressed with its performance, I have not experienced any quirks in the two channel modes. I hear instruments, clarity and separation that I did not hear before with my previous equipment. Overall, I am very happy with my RMC-1. I’m 99% sure I’ll get the RMC-1. I’ll wait till some of the modules come out as I would like the phono built into it and the end point streamer would be awesome. My 8802 is doing fine for now. But as posted before something about the look of the RMC next to my DR-2 and my XPA-5 sounds awesome |
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Post by deewan on Jun 8, 2019 0:14:34 GMT -5
I find it interesting that Emotiva has started their pre order list for the XMC2 given all the unresolved issues that currently exist with the RMC1. Perhaps they are closer than we know to having a fully functional RMC1. Ehhhhhh, I'd hope Emotiva first figures out their quality check on the RMC-1 before starting to ship other processors. This is what my third RMC sounds like straight out of the box. 45 minutes old and I have the same dinging issue another member had. Every 60 seconds I get to enjoy the beautiful sound of the chime in fully balanced surround sound.  |
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Post by goozoo on Jun 8, 2019 0:29:19 GMT -5
I find it interesting that Emotiva has started their pre order list for the XMC2 given all the unresolved issues that currently exist with the RMC1. Perhaps they are closer than we know to having a fully functional RMC1. Ehhhhhh, I'd hope Emotiva first figures out their quality check on the RMC-1 before starting to ship other processors. This is what my third RMC sounds like straight out of the box. 45 minutes old and I have the same dinging issue another member had. Every 60 seconds I get to enjoy the beautiful sound of the chime in fully balanced surround sound. Are you freakin kidding me?! What the hell is that even? It sounds like you’re at a diner working in the kitchen when the orders come in. Is this for real or are you just playing a joke? |
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Post by cwt on Jun 8, 2019 5:14:41 GMT -5
Are you freakin kidding me?! What the hell is that even? It sounds like you’re at a diner working in the kitchen when the orders come in. Is this for real or are you just playing a joke? Yes certainly does ; maybe a dubbed "ding" for effect as its -20db down or something  |
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Post by TDifEQ on Jun 8, 2019 6:15:30 GMT -5
Happened to me as well. 5 loud Bell ringing sounds in a row. Quite alarming. Game of Thrones 4k disc via OPPO203, S1E8, 00:58:11, during deer skinning scene.
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Post by deewan on Jun 8, 2019 8:11:17 GMT -5
Ehhhhhh, I'd hope Emotiva first figures out their quality check on the RMC-1 before starting to ship other processors. This is what my third RMC sounds like straight out of the box. 45 minutes old and I have the same dinging issue another member had. Every 60 seconds I get to enjoy the beautiful sound of the chime in fully balanced surround sound. Are you freakin kidding me?! What the hell is that even? It sounds like you’re at a diner working in the kitchen when the orders come in. Is this for real or are you just playing a joke? NOT a joke!!!! This is real. rhale64 had this same issue. From what I remember it's something like the Dolby decoder chip and if a licensing code of something isn't loaded/removed, it will ding like that every 60 seconds to ensure the chips aren't sold by companies who don't pay that licensing fee. So now I get to exchange my RMC for my fourth unit. Honestly, this is getting to be a little much. |
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Post by juanchibiris on Jun 8, 2019 8:16:50 GMT -5
Are you freakin kidding me?! What the hell is that even? It sounds like you’re at a diner working in the kitchen when the orders come in. Is this for real or are you just playing a joke? NOT a joke!!!! This is real. Another forum member had this same issue. From what I remember it's something like the Dolby decoder chip and if a licensing code of something isn't loaded/removed, it will ding like that every 60 seconds to ensure the chips aren't sold by companies who don't pay that licensing fee. So now I get to exchange my RMC for my fourth unit. Honestly, this is getting to be a little much. Can't rhwy just send you a custom firmware that includes the firmware for the decoder if that's the problem? I'm outside US and won't like something like this happen if I have to return the unit would be very difficult for me, I sent the discount card and expect to buy this unit next week. |
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Post by deewan on Jun 8, 2019 8:19:37 GMT -5
Can't rhwy just send you a custom firmware that includes the firmware for the decoder if that's the problem? I'm outside US and won't like something like this happen if I have to return the unit would be very difficult for me, I sent the discount card and expect to buy this unit next week. Not from the sounds of it. It's not a FW per se, but a licensing code that would need to be applied to the chip itself. The last instance this happened the RMC had to be exchanged. There are details back on pages 5 and 6 of this thread. |
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That might have been acceptable 20 years ago (especially before win XP) but now it indicates potential OS instability... not a good thing 
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