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Post by davidl81 on Jun 17, 2019 15:26:50 GMT -5
Not interested in a phono expansion board. Just curious to know what EMO's specifications are for the phone board since @keithl mentioned it. So KeithL, ... what are the specifications for the phono board ... if there are not any, why did you mention it? What exactly do you want to see in these Specs for an Analog Phono Pre Module? If someone is having a good Phono, then he will anyway buy a seperate PhonoPre.
From my point of view - this is a goodie - not more not less - never expected to have a phono connected in a homecinema.
I have a Rega Aria PhonoPre - which is around 1400$ new - so I would never expect, that a Module in a AV Pre would top this.
And a phono pre should be always tested home with your setup - don't think, that Emo will send this out, just to let it test.
I would never buy a module, that I cannot test at home. my2cents about Phono Pre.
I think some (most) people don't have a separate 2 channel listing room and a separate HT room so the need to have a room (thus processor) that can do both is important. I like the idea of a built in phono just to keep it simpler in my setup. Now if I was a purest I would think separate would be better, but I like to have the option of the built in. But my TT is also a fairly basic $500 unit, so it's not nearly as important to me as it is to others.
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Post by TDifEQ on Jun 17, 2019 15:46:15 GMT -5
Not interested in a phono expansion board.Β Just curious to know what EMO's specifications are for the phone board since @keithl mentioned it.Β So KeithL,Β ... what are the specifications for the phono board ... if there are not any, why did you mention it?Β What exactly do you want to see in these Specs for an Analog Phono Pre Module? If someone is having a good Phono, then he will anyway buy a seperate PhonoPre.
From my point of view - this is a goodie - not more not less - never expected to have a phono connected in a homecinema.
I have a Rega Aria PhonoPre - which is around 1400$ new - so I would never expect, that a Module in a AV Pre would top this.
And a phono pre should be always tested home with your setup - don't think, that Emo will send this out, just to let it test.
I would never buy a module, that I cannot test at home. my2cents about Phono Pre.Β
Again, Not interested in buying a phono expansion board. Would like to know more about the EMO's phono spec's ... that's all.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 17, 2019 16:32:12 GMT -5
Not interested in a phono expansion board. Just curious to know what EMO's specifications are for the phone board since @keithl mentioned it. So KeithL, ... what are the specifications for the phono board ... if there are not any, why did you mention it? I'd expect the Phono Preamp Module to be based on the XPS-1, it's flexible (MC / MM), sounds very good, and the engineering is done. emotiva.com/collections/pre-amps/products/xps-1
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Post by skiman1 on Jun 17, 2019 17:00:21 GMT -5
Well Keith, Reading all the post here MOST want more subs and streaming modules, end of story. Can someone put up a poll? and lets find out what people want whether they own a RMC-1 or no If there is no 'real' bass management for the 4 sub module, then it's a no go for me.
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Post by bblv on Jun 17, 2019 19:41:34 GMT -5
Interested with following priority: 1. Firmware 1.4 2. Dirac ... full release including support for multiple subwoofers and advance bass mgt 3. (1) additional subwoofer channels board, min of 3 XLR ports needed (4 subwoofer xlr ports to a board?) 4. (1) add on main/surround channel board, 4 ports ... when Dolby/DTS:X supports more speakers Literally my top four priorities for the RMC-1, assuming FW1.4 fixes most small glitches people are experiencing.
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Post by adaboy on Jun 17, 2019 20:06:37 GMT -5
If there is no 'real' bass management for the 4 sub module, then it's a no go for me. It's two xlr splitters stuffed into a tidy box that fits into one of the expansion bays. ππ
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Post by hsamwel on Jun 17, 2019 22:22:54 GMT -5
69990SEK..
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Post by jcz06 on Jun 17, 2019 23:43:26 GMT -5
What exactly do you want to see in these Specs for an Analog Phono Pre Module? If someone is having a good Phono, then he will anyway buy a seperate PhonoPre.
From my point of view - this is a goodie - not more not less - never expected to have a phono connected in a homecinema.
I have a Rega Aria PhonoPre - which is around 1400$ new - so I would never expect, that a Module in a AV Pre would top this.
And a phono pre should be always tested home with your setup - don't think, that Emo will send this out, just to let it test.
I would never buy a module, that I cannot test at home. my2cents about Phono Pre.
I think some (most) people don't have a separate 2 channel listing room and a separate HT room so the need to have a room (thus processor) that can do both is important. I like the idea of a built in phono just to keep it simpler in my setup. Now if I was a purest I would think separate would be better, but I like to have the option of the built in. But my TT is also a fairly basic $500 unit, so it's not nearly as important to me as it is to others. Another option is to do a 2-channel Preamp with HT bypass....that what I do in my own system.
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Post by bblv on Jun 18, 2019 1:10:28 GMT -5
When is bass management coming? Is it part of Dirac?
Is there a final version of the manual coming soon? Being held up by Dirac too?
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Post by KeithL on Jun 18, 2019 9:13:07 GMT -5
Bass management is what you're using when you set a speaker to small and assign it a crossover. The RMC-1 itself currently has bass management that complies with Dolby's standards for Atmos - which means a single subwoofer channel. On the RMC-1 you can assign one, two, or three subs to that channel. In the future we may add the option for stereo subwoofers or more advanced options.
(The ability to handle stereo subs, as the XMC-1 did, is optional on the part of each vendor.)
Dirac on the XMC-1 calibrated each speaker separately, and had nothing to do with the bass management. (Bass management settings were done separately by the user.)
The old version of Dirac calibrates each speaker separately. The new version has the ability to "more precisely phase align the front pair of speakers as a pair for better imaging......". It does NOT include advanced bass management. Dirac has plans to offer several levels of enhanced bass management in the future.
(According to their current roadmap, the first level will be free, and will be limited to allowing you to view "what-if curve results". Two higher levels will allow you to "calibrate your subwoofer to your other speakers" to varying degrees - and will be cost-extra options.)
At this point we expect the version on the RMC-1 to be similar.
This is the latest information we have.
When is bass management coming? Is it part of Dirac? Is there a final version of the manual coming soon? Being held up by Dirac too?
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Post by KeithL on Jun 18, 2019 9:20:14 GMT -5
There will be another version of the RMC-1 manual coming soon.
It may or may not be absolutely final. On all of our recent manuals, you will find a revision and a date, usually at the bottom of the Notes page near the back.)
(We often issue new versions of manuals when we add features or make major changes.)
Odds are, as with the XMC-1, there will be a separate Dirac Manual for the RMC-1 when that is finalized.
(That way it can be both issued and updated separately.)
When is bass management coming? Is it part of Dirac? Is there a final version of the manual coming soon? Being held up by Dirac too?
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Post by bblv on Jun 18, 2019 10:07:08 GMT -5
There will be another version of the RMC-1 manual coming soon.
It may or may not be absolutely final.Β On all of our recent manuals, you will find a revision and a date, usually at the bottom of the Notes page near the back.)
(We often issue new versions of manuals when we add features or make major changes.)
Odds are, as with the XMC-1, there will be a separate Dirac Manual for the RMC-1 when that is finalized.
(That way it can be both issued and updated separately.)
When is bass management coming? Is it part of Dirac? Is there a final version of the manual coming soon? Being held up by Dirac too? Thanks for the clarifications Keith.
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Post by aswiss on Jun 18, 2019 10:19:38 GMT -5
I'm happy, that I got my RMC-1 - if prices do significant rise mentioned in todays NEWS, some will probably wait until RMC-1L oder XMC-2 are available. Thoughts?
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Post by aswiss on Jun 18, 2019 10:23:56 GMT -5
How many taxes are on this price? Price in germany is around 58600SEK.
Loking to the current price - really almost double of the US price. Maybe someone is earning a lot of money with that.
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Post by Hair Nick on Jun 18, 2019 10:46:36 GMT -5
Quick heads up, the processors will NOT be increasing in price.
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Post by tslack on Jun 18, 2019 10:56:06 GMT -5
Including the XMC-1 trade-up program?
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Post by Hair Nick on Jun 18, 2019 11:00:11 GMT -5
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Post by aswiss on Jun 18, 2019 13:34:45 GMT -5
Quick heads up, the processors will NOT be increasing in price. Thanks for this Update.
But I'r rather read news on a FW Update or Dirac Release, than of consequences done by someone, who wants to find out, who's got the longer one ;-)
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Post by hsamwel on Jun 18, 2019 17:41:39 GMT -5
How many taxes are on this price? Price in germany is around 58600SEK.
Loking to the current price - really almost double of the US price. Maybe someone is earning a lot of money with that.
25% VAT thatβs 15000 of the price. But 55000 excluding VAT is quite high still. Almost the same as German price including VAT.
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Post by Delco on Jun 18, 2019 20:07:33 GMT -5
Quick heads up, the processors will NOT be increasing in price. Thanks for this Update.
But I'r rather read news on a FW Update or Dirac Release, than of consequences done by someone, who wants to find out, who's got the longer one ;-)
Agreed, Nick/Lonnie or Keith and ETA on the FW update that includes Dirac?
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