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Post by Jesse007 on Jun 19, 2019 18:22:42 GMT -5
LCSeminole and AudioHTIT- Thanks for the photos! All of them are just what I had in mind when I asked. After taking a good look, I’m coming around to like the looks of the XMC-2 as compared to my XMC-1. I have decided I will go ahead and add 2 overhead speakers for a 5.1.2 system when the units become available.
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Post by LCSeminole on Jun 19, 2019 18:41:42 GMT -5
Since I'm still in the middle of home improvement DIY projects, I've not yet addressed the possible 7.2.4 setup that an RMC-1L will accommodate. Nonetheless, an RMC-1L is in the cards for me whether I have immersive channels or not at such time when this processor comes available. and yes it will be one of the most overkill processors for my current 7.2 setup. For the time being I'll be sanding/priming/painting kitchen and bathroom cabinets, and after that new windows throughout, so the immersive channels are taking a back seat until such time as I can get around to researching ceiling installs/mounts for said speakers.
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Post by tagmanz on Jun 19, 2019 19:26:35 GMT -5
Isn’t the RMC-1L in the XMC-1/2 sized case? ... Yes, the RMC-1 is 4 RU, the others are 3 RU. If you look at the rear of the stitched RMC-1L it looks about the same height as the rear of the XMC-2. The front however, wasn’t as easy to stitch down, so it looks bigger that it actually should. Edit: I took another look at LCSeminole’s photo and restitched the RMC-1L Front, I think I got it closer. There are some good views of all processors in the Axpona video here emotiva.com/blogs/info-hub-1/emotiva-at-axpona-2019AudioHTIT your RMC-L image is very close indeed. The thing that bugs me most about the RMC-1L in the video is that it appears to have a smaller power button than other products including the XPA amplifiers. I prefer your image by far and hope Emotiva corrects this in the final release version. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 19, 2019 19:54:16 GMT -5
Yes, the RMC-1 is 4 RU, the others are 3 RU. If you look at the rear of the stitched RMC-1L it looks about the same height as the rear of the XMC-2. The front however, wasn’t as easy to stitch down, so it looks bigger that it actually should. Edit: I took another look at LCSeminole’s photo and restitched the RMC-1L Front, I think I got it closer. There are some good views of all processors in the Axpona video here emotiva.com/blogs/info-hub-1/emotiva-at-axpona-2019AudioHTIT your RMC-L image is very close indeed. The thing that bugs me most about the RMC-1L in the video is that it appears to have a smaller power button than other products including the XPA amplifiers. I prefer your image by far and hope Emotiva corrects this in the final release version. Thanks! Yes, I saw that too and hoped it was just for the prototype, I only used the bigger button because I was working with an RMC-1 original photo, the other would have been too hard. The smaller button is what's used on the BasX series, and it doesn't seem appropriate for the RMC-1L. However, they do have to get the internals lined up with the smaller front & rear panels, and it may be that even though they'd like to use the bigger button, there won't be room. We'll just have to wait and see. |
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Post by tagmanz on Jun 19, 2019 21:22:20 GMT -5
The smaller button is what's used on the BasX series, and it doesn't seem appropriate for the RMC-1L. However, they do have to get the internals lined up with the smaller front & rear panels, and it may be that even though they'd like to use the bigger button, there won't be room. We'll just have to wait and see. Yes I believe that may well be the case. If I had to guess I would say the volume knob/ encoder mechanism may extend down preventing the use of the larger button. They have it fitting in the XMC-2 and that would seem the major difference. I wasn't aware the smaller button was from the BasX range. Thanks for pointing that out. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 19, 2019 23:01:44 GMT -5
... I wasn't aware the smaller button was from the BasX range. Here’s one ...  |
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Post by butchgo on Jun 20, 2019 9:15:24 GMT -5
Quick question.
Has anyone heard anything about the price point of the RMC-1L?
If the internal architecture is the same as the RMC-1 but with a smaller case how much less expensive can it be?
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Post by davidl81 on Jun 20, 2019 9:29:50 GMT -5
Quick question. Has anyone heard anything about the price point of the RMC-1L? If the internal architecture is the same as the RMC-1 but with a smaller case how much less expensive can it be? It is priced at $3999, 1k less than the RMC-1. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 20, 2019 15:42:34 GMT -5
From Lonnie’s post in the RMC-1 thread ...
“I guess the last thing is expansion modules. I see a lot of speculation out there and just want to clear the air so to speak. As of right now we have engineering mule boards for a two channel fully balanced input module, a phono stage, subwoofer expansion (four outputs) and channel expansion for heights and widths. There are others in the works but I'm not going to bring them up till they get farther down the road.”
My thoughts and questions.
* Will the channel and subwoofer modules have 4 XLR connectors? (presumably)
** Just trying to confirm that 4 full size XLRs will fit on one module plate
* If 4 XLR’s will fit, why not 2 pairs of balanced inputs? (asking for a friend)
** Really just thinking, if someone needs 2 pair of balanced inputs (built in + expansion), they might need 3.
** Seems it wouldn’t be that much more expensive to do it up front, but maybe this is already nailed down.
* Will the subwoofer module have the same or additional bass management as the built in subwoofer outputs?
** The outstanding question seems to be if these will ever be able to take advantage of tiered Dirac at a cost?
** Keith’s post implies they can’t answer these questions yet
* Still assuming the phono module is based on the XPS-1/XSP-1 phono stage? (which makes sense)
* Still assuming the channel expansions are 4 channel, 3 will give a total 28 channels? (definitely asking for a friend)
* Not looking good for bi-amping (not asking for a friend)
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Post by klinemj on Jun 20, 2019 16:32:03 GMT -5
LCSeminole beat me to the punch on the RMC-1L, but I’ve been trying to put together the best pictures of each model that we have here in one place. His 1L shot above is probably the best actual picture we have, but I have creatively given us the best approximation of what it should look like by stitching an RMC-1 photo (you’ll recognize it by the precision labeling  ) These are best front and rear photos I have for the RMC-1, RMC-1L, XMC-2, XMC-1. If someone at Emotiva will supply official 1L photos, I’ll update ( Hair Nick ?). Edit: Just added prices for reference.RMC-1 Front (official) $4999 MSRP RMC-1 Rear (official)  RMC-1L Front (composed / stitched) $3999 MSRP RMC-1L Rear (composed / stitched)  XMC-2 Front (official) $2999 MSRP XMC-2 Rear (official)  XMC-1 Front (official) $2499 MSRP (when last available)  XMC-1 Rear (official)  These would be great for KeithL to add to his table. Mark |
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Post by cwt on Jun 21, 2019 2:06:41 GMT -5
* Will the channel and subwoofer modules have 4 XLR connectors? (presumably) * Will the subwoofer module have the same or additional bass management as the built in subwoofer outputs? ** The outstanding question seems to be if these will ever be able to take advantage of tiered Dirac at a cost? ** Keith’s post implies they can’t answer these questions yet * Still assuming the channel expansions are 4 channel, 3 will give a total 28 channels? (definitely asking for a friend) * Not looking good for bi-amping (not asking for a friend) Theres a video from CES iirc of Dan showing a close up of the expansion modules loaded with 4 xlr balanced each  What Keith says here correlates precisely with the Dirac sub management module 3 tier level Yes 28 channels 16/12 extra Dan has been quoted as saying bi amping and tri amping ; would be unfortunate if this didn't happen ; others do  |
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Post by rbk123 on Jun 21, 2019 7:03:16 GMT -5
If the internal architecture is the same as the RMC-1 but with a smaller case how much less expensive can it be? I don't believe it is in a smaller chassis. Same size, just no expansion ability. Or I didn't until David explained to me the error of my ways below. I trust him so ignore the above. |
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Post by davidl81 on Jun 21, 2019 7:59:45 GMT -5
If the internal architecture is the same as the RMC-1 but with a smaller case how much less expensive can it be? I don't believe it is in a smaller chassis. Same size, just no expansion ability. It is a smaller case. The RMC-1L will have the same size case as the XMC-2 (and 1). The RMC-1 is about 1.5” taller (same height as the XPA amps) |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 21, 2019 9:07:26 GMT -5
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Post by LCSeminole on Jun 21, 2019 9:31:03 GMT -5
It’s about time Bruce you’ve been really slacking!!! |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 21, 2019 10:07:33 GMT -5
It’s about time Bruce you’ve been really slacking!!! Sorry, I’ve been busy staring out the window at the beautiful day! I may be busy later throwing the ball for the dogs 🐶 but I’ll try to get caught up here soon! 👋🙂✌️ |
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Post by butchgo on Jun 21, 2019 11:20:35 GMT -5
So $1K less and the only difference is the lack of expansion ability?
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Post by richb on Jun 21, 2019 11:27:37 GMT -5
So $1K less and the only difference is the lack of expansion ability? Yes and that some seem to like to taller beefier look of the RMC-1 over the RMC-1L. - Rich |
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Post by butchgo on Jun 21, 2019 12:09:54 GMT -5
Well that's a no brainer for me then.
RMC-1L will be the one.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 21, 2019 12:19:56 GMT -5
Well that's a no brainer for me then. RMC-1L will be the one. The RMC-1L really is the sweet spot, it’s actually the box they first announced for $5000, then they added the expansion slots and held the price, and finally added the originally spec’d unit for $1000 less. |
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